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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 07:27 PM
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New Pads/Rotors - front clicking sound on initial brake press??

Had new brembo front rotors and ebc red pads installed (and rears done) couple weeks ago (see thread below for those details) and for some reason I'm getting a strange clicking/clunk sound from the front brakes that *only* occurs on the initial brake pressing after going from reverse to drive.

Example: am parked, put car in reverse and first brake press the front click/clunk sound happens and then right after when going from reverse to drive (at 1-2 mph) the first press of the brakes again makes the front end click/clunk sound.

The noise doesnt return while staying in drive on using the brake repeatedly and the brakes perform fantastic. the noise only only happens in the Reverse to Drive process and when the initial touch of the brakes happens as you go from reverse (foot on brake, then initial click/clunk sound) to drive (foot to brake and initial click/clunk) then it doesnt return while in drive until you go through reverse to drive again.

Any ideas what is going on? THose with EBC reds, is that normal for those pads?? I dont get the noise in the rears which are EBC reds and zimmerman rotors.

Here's the brake setup i have - https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...rs-dealer.html
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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Your pads are slipping and Acura's and Honda's do this a lot ... of sure if the ebc pads are a bit small...

When this happened with my Acura I took it back to them they re-installed the front pads and the problem went away.
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 09:04 PM
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Peter - appreciate the feedback. Does a skipping pad mean it’s loose in the caliper (and not safe to drive)??
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jvakos
Peter - appreciate the feedback. Does a skipping pad mean it’s loose in the caliper (and not safe to drive)??
No, it's quite safe ... just a nuisance; it'll be fixed just take it back to the Indy; there is like a couple millimeters of play in the caliper and the brake keeps shifting with the first drive/reverse momentum
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
No, it's quite safe ... just a nuisance; it'll be fixed just take it back to the Indy; there is like a couple millimeters of play in the caliper and the brake keeps shifting with the first drive/reverse momentum
What he said. Even though it's rarely "a couple", usually less than that. But agree 100%

Happens quite often and is 100% safe. It's sometimes just the fact that there is a sliver of lateral play as well, and the disc push the pad into the piston when you go forward&reverse. Mine does exactly the same, running Hawk 5.0.
Annoying? Maybe a tiny, tiny bit. Worth it for better brake modulation and 80% dust reduction? You bet!
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 12:12 PM
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In my Acura case they added a shim and it was flawless
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Originally Posted by FastWgn
What he said. Even though it's rarely "a couple", usually less than that. But agree 100%

Happens quite often and is 100% safe. It's sometimes just the fact that there is a sliver of lateral play as well, and the disc push the pad into the piston when you go forward&reverse. Mine does exactly the same, running Hawk 5.0.
Annoying? Maybe a tiny, tiny bit. Worth it for better brake modulation and 80% dust reduction? You bet!
FastWgn / Peter - thanks gents for the input as I was freaking out a bit that something was wrong with them since i've never used EBC red pads before. Will have my indy guy (who's a MB master tech) take a look and prob put a shim in as Peter mentioned. happy fathers day to you fellas.
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FastWgn / Peter - thanks gents for the input as I was freaking out a bit that something was wrong with them since i've never used EBC red pads before. Will have my indy guy (who's a MB master tech) take a look and prob put a shim in as Peter mentioned. happy fathers day to you fellas.
Happy Father's Day brother!!
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My EBC reds make a bit of click when changing direction of travel, however, it is not a clunk as you describe. It is not very loud, so I just ignore it. I'm sure though that it is caused by the pad not quite fitting as snugly as it should in the caliper body. I suspect a shim would cure it completely.
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Old Jun 16, 2019 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HPMan
My EBC reds make a bit of click when changing direction of travel, however, it is not a clunk as you describe. It is not very loud, so I just ignore it. I'm sure though that it is caused by the pad not quite fitting as snugly as it should in the caliper body. I suspect a shim would cure it completely.
Thx HPman, good to know that click sound from forward/reverse normal with Ebc reds. Mine is pretty much a clicking sound as well.. I almost don’t notice it now that I’ve driven the car a couple weeks.

Did you add a shim and have the sound stop, or do you just live with it as is?
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I'm just living with it as is. I may see what, if anything, I can do next time I have the wheels off, however, it really doesn't bother me.
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 10:58 PM
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I'm just living with it as is. I may see what, if anything, I can do next time I have the wheels off, however, it really doesn't bother me.
I emailed EBC about getting some of their "free" shims to fix this fitment / noise issue which they say they provide for free per their site here... will update you with what I hear from them

https://ebcbrakes.com/Assets/typicalq&a.html
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Sorry to revive this old thread. I realize I don't have an AMG W212, but I have this problem with both my 300TE and my 300SL, and I find it to be quote annoying!

@PeterUbers, @jvakos, and @HPMan....these shims you are talking about, are they on the backing plate of the pads that touch the pistons of the brake calipers or are they shims are placed between the outside edges/rims of the brake pad backing plate so they fit snugly into the brake caliper cradle? I would love to know that the solution looks like so I can go searching. Was also wondering if the retaining springs that hold the pads in the caliper can be adjusted or bent to hold the pad more firmly. Thanks for the help!

Last edited by jinsoojoo; May 20, 2022 at 12:03 PM. Reason: Want people to realize I don't have a W212, but still have the same symptoms in a system that is basically the same.
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Old May 20, 2022 | 11:57 AM
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I just installed EBC reds and have the same issue. Clicking on initial brake (first time going forward or reverse). Would love to find a solution.
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