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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 02:30 PM
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Pads/Rotors replacement cost 2014 E63S

Hey guys! I just got back from the dealer after the 60k service on my 2014 E63s sedan. I will need pads and rotors soon on all 4 corners (front rotors are also slightly warped). The MB dealer quoted me $4100. This seems very high to me. I figured perhaps half of that would be reasonable. Does anyone have any feedback on this or anyone have used Zimmerman rotors and what would be a good price for this service? Thanks!

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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 02:38 PM
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was planning on using these when the time comes.
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 02:46 PM
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Seems pretty high although the dealer quoted me $3k even to do pads all around and just rotors in the rear on a 2012 ML63. I did it with a friend using OEM parts for about $750. Took us maybe 2 hours....
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 03:30 PM
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check this thread out, https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...placement.html
I have a 2015 E63 AMG S, and replaced the fronts with the 2 piece rotors, (I believe it was around 750-800 for 2 of them, brembos)

I did the rears and fronts with sensors and all the parts cost me $1100....labor was cheap for me cause I have a mechanic friend (charged 80/axle).

Got the brembo's on ebay (still working well no issues...real brembo's)
and fcpeuro for everything else
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sensiblepower
check this thread out, https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...placement.html
I have a 2015 E63 AMG S, and replaced the fronts with the 2 piece rotors, (I believe it was around 750-800 for 2 of them, brembos)

I did the rears and fronts with sensors and all the parts cost me $1100....labor was cheap for me cause I have a mechanic friend (charged 80/axle).

Got the brembo's on ebay (still working well no issues...real brembo's)
and fcpeuro for everything else

Wow that’s awesome! Did not even look at Brembos. Thanks!
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 03:54 PM
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Do you guys remember what tools are needed to remove calipers.. I am doing rotors pads front but I want to remove my backing plate to have it refinish.
Just want to make sure I have all tools on hand before I pull the wheels.
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 04:01 PM
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There was nothing exotic, metric sockets, torx sockets, I used a grip clamp to squeeze the pistons back in...

torx like these... don't remember size...

https://www.grainger.com/product/20K...!g!82128472317!

i like these type of clamps.... hydraulic...

https://www.zoro.com/dewalt-bar-clam...SABEgJHTvD_BwE
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 04:30 PM
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Hoping the backing plate is easy to pull once the rotor is out. If not I will refinish it as best the area that is visible.
I am going with new stock rotors and EBC Red.
Seem like I have everything I need.
Thank You.
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Originally Posted by sunil517
Hoping the backing plate is easy to pull once the rotor is out. If not I will refinish it as best the area that is visible.
I am going with new stock rotors and EBC Red.
Seem like I have everything I need.
Thank You.
Sunil hey let me know how the EBC Red pads work out for you....i put those on my 15 E63 front / rear and new rotors and once broken in they have been great and MUCH less brake dust. The only complaint I have is apparently the EBC Red pads can use a small shim to install which eliminates the a slight brake clicking sound that happens as you change direction from Drive to Reverse on the first brake touch (goes away after the 1st break press once in Drive)
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Originally Posted by sweden16
Hey guys! I just got back from the dealer after the 60k service on my 2014 E63s sedan. I will need pads and rotors soon on all 4 corners (front rotors are also slightly warped). The MB dealer quoted me $4100. This seems very high to me. I figured perhaps half of that would be reasonable. Does anyone have any feedback on this or anyone have used Zimmerman rotors and what would be a good price for this service? Thanks!

Erik
Hey sweden16. I own a 2013 AMG E63 (same OE brake calipers and rotors as your 2014 E63S) and did a lot of research on this subject. I found the least expensive choices were Brembo two-piece rotors for the front and Brembo one-piece rotors for the rear. I purchased both front and rear sets of rotors from NEWPARTS.COM for a total of only $863.47, including shipping. The OE rotors on the front of our E63's are a 'hybrid' one-piece which are only available from a MB dealer, at a cost of $1,120 each! I discovered that Brembo was the actual OE supplier of front rotors on all 2010 and 2011 AMG E63's, so there are no fitment issues on any W211 or W212 platform. Brembo part numbers are 219-421-0212 for the front rotors and 212-423-0412 for the rear rotors. In addition, I purchased front and rear brake pads from CarboTech for a total of $557.70, including shipping. The CarboTech '1521 Street Pads' are not cheap but they are incredible, better stopping power than OE pads and NO BRAKE DUST!!! I have the same pads on my Z06 so I can attest to their greatness. In summary, I spent less than $1,500 for an awesome set of brakes on my E63. I highly recommend these options. Good luck!



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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 11:42 AM
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Hey sweden16. I own a 2013 AMG E63 (same OE brake calipers and rotors as your 2014 E63S) and did a lot of research on this subject. I found the least expensive choices were Brembo two-piece rotors for the front and Brembo one-piece rotors for the rear. I purchased both front and rear sets of rotors from NEWPARTS.COM for a total of only $863.47, including shipping. The OE rotors on the front of our E63's are a 'hybrid' one-piece which are only available from a MB dealer, at a cost of $1,120 each! I discovered that Brembo was the actual OE supplier of front rotors on all 2010 and 2011 AMG E63's, so there are no fitment issues on any W211 or W212 platform. Brembo part numbers are 219-421-0212 for the front rotors and 212-423-0412 for the rear rotors. In addition, I purchased front and rear brake pads from CarboTech for a total of $557.70, including shipping. The CarboTech '1521 Street Pads' are not cheap but they are incredible, better stopping power than OE pads and NO BRAKE DUST!!! I have the same pads on my Z06 so I can attest to their greatness. In summary, I spent less than $1,500 for an awesome set of brakes on my E63. I highly recommend these options. Good luck!

Hey FireBall! Awesome, thanks so much for your info that is really inexpensive! I appreciate the time you took to let me know. Thanks!
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FCP Euro, ECS Tuning, etc. all say that part No. 2194210212 doesn't fit facelift e63s?

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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 03:37 PM
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FCP Euro, ECS Tuning, etc. all say that part No. 2194210212 doesn't fit facelift e63s?
R5169, The reason for that is because Brembo never offered this two-piece rotor on the 2012 through 2016 E63 so there is no SKU for it. This exact Brembo rotor was the OE rotor on the 2008 through 2011 E63, same Brembo Caliper PN and same OE Brake Pad PN from 2008 through 2016. The only thing that changed in 2012 was that MB developed a 'hybrid' one-piece rotor (aluminum center and iron ring, in one piece) and dropped the two-piece rotor from Brembo. I'm not certain who makes this new one-piece rotor for MB but it's expensive at $1,140 each from the dealer. I'm guessing that MB is making lots more $ on the new rotor...
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 03:45 PM
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Advantages/disadvantages of one/two piece rotors?
Two-piece floating rotor reduces unsprung weight for better handling/acceleration/deceleration, reduces heat transfer/cools faster, and looks cooler. One piece rotor has much less chance of making annoying rattle noises. On the street, not a big deal either way.
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R5169, The reason for that is because Brembo never offered this two-piece rotor on the 2012 through 2016 E63 so there is no SKU for it. This exact Brembo rotor was the OE rotor on the 2008 through 2011 E63, same Brembo Caliper PN and same OE Brake Pad PN from 2008 through 2016. The only thing that changed in 2012 was that MB developed a 'hybrid' one-piece rotor (aluminum center and iron ring, in one piece) and dropped the two-piece rotor from Brembo. I'm not certain who makes this new one-piece rotor for MB but it's expensive at $1,140 each from the dealer. I'm guessing that MB is making lots more $ on the new rotor...
Nice, thank you for clarifying! Really love the look of the 2-piece. Seems that FCP still has them in stock as well.
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For those of you that bought the Brembos, can you confirm that the rotors are directional? I recall reading a thread a while ago where somebody bought these but both rotors were identical (i.e. the veins on one side would be spinning in the wrong direction).
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For those of you that bought the Brembos, can you confirm that the rotors are directional? I recall reading a thread a while ago where somebody bought these but both rotors were identical (i.e. the veins on one side would be spinning in the wrong direction).
I have these same Brembo front rotors and Zimmerman rears which were total 1000 from FCP with lifetime replacement! They are not directional for left or right but I couldn’t care less or notice the veins unless you look for it. I. Also put EBC red pads on all 4 which were 300 total and braking has been every bit as good as the stock set up (think better actually with the Red pads) but much cheaper.

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For those of you that bought the Brembos, can you confirm that the rotors are directional? I recall reading a thread a while ago where somebody bought these but both rotors were identical (i.e. the veins on one side would be spinning in the wrong direction).
The Brembo two-piece rotors for the front and the Brembo one-piece rotors for the rear are not directional. They use a unique internal ventilation design that is bidirectional and patented by Brembo. The external slots do not determine the rotor direction, it's determined by the internal vents. All AMG models from 2010 through 2019 are equipped with bidirectional rotors; with the slots running in opposite directions on either side of the vehicle.

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Originally Posted by FireBall
The Brembo two-piece rotors for the front and the Brembo one-piece rotors for the rear are not directional. They both use a unique internal ventilation design that is unidirectional and patented by Brembo. The external slots don't determine the rotor direction, it's determined by the internal vents. All AMG models from 2010 through 2019 are equipped with unidirectional rotors; with the slots running in opposite directions on either side of the vehicle.
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I got the Front and rears (Brembo fronts (BREMBO 09976423 {#2194210212)), and since the Brembo rears weren't in stock at Rockauto, Centric rears (CENTRIC 12735121) along with Powerstop pads. Came with all new hardware. Shipped, was $1036.00 to my house.
These fit perfectly on my 2014 E63 AMG-S Wagon. Took me about 2 hours to do it myself in my gravel driveway.. with the better half keeping my Gin and Tonics replenished.
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Originally Posted by FireBall
The Brembo two-piece rotors for the front and the Brembo one-piece rotors for the rear are not directional. They use a unique internal ventilation design that is bidirectional and patented by Brembo. The external slots do not determine the rotor direction, it's determined by the internal vents. All AMG models from 2010 through 2019 are equipped with bidirectional rotors; with the slots running in opposite directions on either side of the vehicle.
Thanks! I didn't know that.
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Thanks! I didn't know that.
Here are pics of the left and right side of my 2013 E63; notice the slots (and drilled pattern) are angled in opposite directions. This allows Brembo to produce only one product for both sides of the vehicle, thus reducing costs. These rotors also use their PVT Plus internal ventilation design which is bidirectional so that can be used on either side of the vehicle. Aside from the technology, they look much better than the one-piece front rotors that are OE on all 2012 through 2019 AMG models.






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I have a set of the two-piece Brembo front rotors in my garage waiting to go on at some point. I paid $760 for the pair awhile back. I think they are a superior product to the factory hybrid/1.5 piece rotors at less than half the cost. Some guys have installed true 1-piece rotors (originally for the w211 E550, I think) if high-performance braking was not their main concern and for street use (and they’re cheap *******s). They fit fine too and are about $300/pair. I thought I would be doing the car a disservice at that point, personally.

The two piece Brembo’s with the two-piece bolted hat are definitely the best looking of the bunch.

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Go with Brembo rotors (for MY 2011) and EBC redstuff! Half the price and great quality!

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