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You'll note I'm with you with regards to dyno claims and questioned the true magnitude of the effect the intake had on overall numbers in the original post. Dynos aside though, the lower waste gate duty cycle and improved IATs is the result of better flow. That's down to the efficiency of the intake. If you read the rest of the thread, you'll see supporting and corroborating evidence to back up my evaluation. Are those dyno numbers to be viewed as absolute??? As you state, they are suspect. Trap speeds don't lie, and everyone one of us running this intact has seen a marked improvement in trap speeds at the track. Again, DA will have a huge impact here as well, but the sheer volume of data we've logged amongst our group running the black boost intake points to that intake as the common denominator.
This why at times I hate reading these posts on dyno charts and installed parts.It's like no one knows how to really make a difference of a comparison to a back to back difference test.
I been around the amg platforum for 13 years and still it's like no one can post a correct back to back dyno test on a part installed..
Your dyno test is a difference of 16 degress and
lower humidity weather make a big change on numbers and how the turbos hit,you also added timing and I can bet you the boost is higher due to the weather change and timing added.
Timing added make a big jump in gains even 1 degree or 2 degree ,If you think you gained that much from that intake that's sad and fooling yourself.
He’s not making stuff up, real numbers are proven on the streets. I don’t care for dyno pulls at all and usually intakes wouldn’t do **** to a car, however this is not the case with black boost intake.
Below are my numbers, the only different mod here is black boost intakes, everything else is the same. The car breathes on the top end way better than stock, you won’t know till you try it. These turbos don’t get enough air flow at the top end, this intake really opens it up.
if this doesn’t convince you, I really don’t know what else would.
Sammy - bone stock 11.3 to 10.9 with ONLY an intake? Dang....
no the car is not bone stock, the car is tuned with down pipes and other stuff for over a year
The draggys I posted are after all the mods, the only change between the first draggy and the other two is the black boost intake.
no the car is not bone stock, the car is tuned with down pipes and other stuff for over a year
The draggys I posted are after all the mods, the only change between the first draggy and the other two is the black boost intake.
SAMz did you have to re-tune the car after the BB intaks were installed to see this improvement? If not its amazing that just the intake addition reduced your 1/4 time by .3 plus and increased your trap as well (which is similar to what many others have reported with the BB intakes)!!!!
no the car is not bone stock, the car is tuned with down pipes and other stuff for over a year
The draggys I posted are after all the mods, the only change between the first draggy and the other two is the black boost intake.
Gotcha, that would have been an insta-purchase for me if that were the case.
Does anyone know if the paper conical filters work just as well as the cotton gauze type ones? I always hated the washable/oiled ones as they appear to allow much larger particles and just are a pain. Would much rather use something disposable if the airflow is equal to, or almost as good.
SAMz did you have to re-tune the car after the BB intaks were installed to see this improvement? If not its amazing that just the intake addition reduced your 1/4 time by .3 plus and increased your trap as well (which is similar to what many others have reported with the BB intakes)!!!!
I did not retune, I literally installed my intake and did the runs. All three runs with approximately 1/4 tank of gas and full interior, Butt massage on too if that matters lol
Gotcha, that would have been an insta-purchase for me if that were the case.
Does anyone know if the paper conical filters work just as well as the cotton gauze type ones? I always hated the washable/oiled ones as they appear to allow much larger particles and just are a pain. Would much rather use something disposable if the airflow is equal to, or almost as good.
I my self like dry filters, before BMC I like to use AFE Dry filters very good and nice filters, now I Use the BMC in the BB intake dry filters and made in Italy good stuff.
I also just pulled the trigger on Black Boost intakes. Interested in seeing what improvements they might provide for a fully stock car. I really don't expect much without tuning for it. ECU and TCU tune are also in the pipeline. I'm thinking it might be worthwhile to get a baseline dyno to compare with later on.
I did not retune, I literally installed my intake and did the runs. All three runs with approximately 1/4 tank of gas and full interior, Butt massage on too if that matters lol
thats awesome to hear no retune. your car is making some serious power and those are great times!
I’d bet you can squeeze out a bit more if the car was retuned with the intake!!!
Its still a little hard to believe all the good results coming from the BlackBoost treatment, but Data don't lie and thank you to all the guys taking the time to post and report back all the feedback.
I just purchased mine, honestly it was between this and a E30 tune from Jerry but I wanted a break from all the tunes and headaches I've been through for the past 2 years lol. Nothing against Jerry or EC he's tune I have now works beautiful. So will see. I'll install the Black Boost and hit the dyno. Not expecting a big gain but with the mods I currently have, If I can hit about 575whp I would be happy with that and call it a day for a while and then do E30 tune sometime next year.
Just put my stock 2012 e63 wagon on dyno then installed intakes and ran it again. 490hp before and 500hp after so a real gain of 10hp. We will have to calculate torque as the dyno wouldn't pick up the rpm signal.
Just put my stock 2012 e63 wagon on dyno then installed intakes and ran it again. 490hp before and 500hp after so a real gain of 10hp. We will have to calculate torque as the dyno wouldn't pick up the rpm signal.
You would make more power with $180 intake spacers and a set of high flow filters.
Just put my stock 2012 e63 wagon on dyno then installed intakes and ran it again. 490hp before and 500hp after so a real gain of 10hp. We will have to calculate torque as the dyno wouldn't pick up the rpm signal.
Can you post the dyno results? Beyond adding some peak whp, the true benefit seems to be holding power much better from 5500rpm to redline - where maybe it's +20whp at 6000rpm for example, but that doesn't affect the peak whp value. I'd like to see your results if you can share.
Can you post the dyno results? Beyond adding some peak whp, the true benefit seems to be holding power much better from 5500rpm to redline - where maybe it's +20whp at 6000rpm for example, but that doesn't affect the peak whp value. I'd like to see your results if you can share.
You are correct main difference would be after 4k and also his car is completely stock at this time so stock intake is not much of a restriction until he tunes and and starts turning the boost up.
You would make more power with $180 intake spacers and a set of high flow filters.
You're a vender right? Can we see some data to back up your claim? We've had numerous people come in here with real world results. Some come from stock to the new intake,... some come from these intake spacers you speak off to the BB intake. They all show improvement.
Baseless claims don't carry that much weight with most of us thankfully.
Correct, I wanted to do the intakes and downpipes before adding a tune. I imagine the numbers will be pretty solid when I go back with the downpipes and then far more substantial when I finally do the tune.
I will have to get a copy of the dynosheet. I took some pics of the monitor with my phone but didn't get the entire screen. It took so long to get the dyno sorted that I had to leave right after the final run.
You would make more power with $180 intake spacers and a set of high flow filters.
Originally Posted by brutus_tx
You're a vender right? Can we see some data to back up your claim? We've had numerous people come in here with real world results. Some come from stock to the new intake,... some come from these intake spacers you speak off to the BB intake. They all show improvement.
Baseless claims don't carry that much weight with most of us thankfully.
I'm leaning towards this BB intake but if data shows that this $180 spacer kit does indeed make more power, I'll switch gear.
I'm leaning towards this BB intake but if data shows that this $180 spacer kit does indeed make more power, I'll switch gear.
I have the UPD spacer and BMC filters and felt no difference. Not surprising since 5-15hp is pretty hard to feel if it gained any power. I purchased the BB a couple of days ago.
I felt a difference after the install surprisingly. I was hoping for more induction noise though. I may try to remove the stock hood insulation but not sure if that will negatively impact the sealing of the intakes.
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