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Old Jun 28, 2022 | 11:21 PM
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E63 Wheel Spacers revisited W212

I have stock 19” forged staggered twin spoke wheels with 255 and 295 PS4S F/R and want the flush look.

I read this thread here on 5mn, 10mm, 12mm hub centric spacers:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...installed.html

So I grabbed a straight edge across the tires measured to the fenders and was getting bigger numbers:

LF 15
RF 17

LR 12
RR 12

Camber of the wheels skewing measurements?

I researched more and saw this video on how to measure using a level and a piece of wood at 90 degrees:


I got smaller numbers using that method:

LF 10
RF 12

LR 8
RR 8

Which method measuring is correct?

What size spacers?



Camber part of measurements using straight edge on tire






Level to ground measurements





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After you have done all this work measuring and stuff... I am gonna throw a monkey wrench in your works, lol!
I believe you said in another thread you have the KW HAS sitting on the shelf cuz you sorta didn't want more headaches after the two months spent on your CCB upgrade, correct?
Well.... ya know that your camber will change once you drop your car... right?
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 12:21 AM
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I have an appointment early July to fix a couple things before warranty runs out and the springs go on after that.
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 07:23 AM
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Or just sell me the HAS kit and don't worry about the Camber/Castor crap LOL
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I have an appointment early July to fix a couple things before warranty runs out and the springs go on after that.
The KW Kit will transform your wagon.

Can't wait to see it on your car, I love it on mine!
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 01:52 PM
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Anyone know of a good hub centric 10 or 12mm front spacer that works with our factory wheels and wheel covers?

HR has 10mm rear but jump to 15mm for ones they list will work on the front:
https://www.hrsprings.com/applicatio.../25/1539/2016/

Or, maybe 15 works great on the front with the original way I measured with the fronts being 15 and 17mm tucked?!

Argh my brain.



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Did you check out ECS Tuning?
ECS Tuning W212 Spacers

These are the ones from the video I sent you before.
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rehabguy
Did you check out ECS Tuning?
ECS Tuning W212 Spacers

These are the ones from the video I sent you before.
Yes, but you also tripped me up with "PS: I'd go with H&R over any other spacer brand"

LOL

I just ordered the 10mm H&R from Amazon. I guess I can do the ECS for the fronts since the HR say "REAR ONLY"

Now to find some lugs.
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Yes, but you also tripped me up with "PS: I'd go with H&R over any other spacer brand"

LOL

I just ordered the 10mm H&R from Amazon. I guess I can do the ECS for the fronts since the HR say "REAR ONLY"

Now to find some lugs.
Yes! I admit it! LOL! But, since H&R doesn't make the 12mm ones... what's a boy to do?!
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BTW... I am considering selling my summer set up at the end of this season if you are interested, wink wink*


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I blew my budget for wheels this year, hence the spacers instead to "get by"

Look Great!

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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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Yes! I admit it! LOL! But, since H&R doesn't make the 12mm ones... what's a boy to do?!
"Ships on Dec 21, 2022"



LOL searching more for fronts
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
I blew my budget for wheels this year, hence the spacers instead to "get by"

Look Great!

When you are ready and if they tickle your fancy!

Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
"Ships on Dec 21, 2022"



LOL searching more for fronts
You are kidding me! That's nuts.
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On the shoulder
The Youtube video linked in the original post is great. That guy has lots of good DIY videos for the W212.
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If I can’t find good quality 12’s in stock anywhere I’m trying HR 15mm on the front.

When I think of it, 10mm on the rear makes sense because I have 295 vs 285, 5mm/side.
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Originally Posted by Rehabguy
Did you check out ECS Tuning?
ECS Tuning W212 Spacers

These are the ones from the video I sent you before.
These are back in stock July 12! I ordered the 12.5mm for the fronts. If I want more I can always go with the 15mm later, but, going with 12.5mm made all 20 of the lugs I need the same shank length of 40mm. Going with 15mm spacers looks like I would need 45mm lugs for the fronts, so going with 12.5mm spacers kept things simple.
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Glad to hear some stuff is not "super back ordered"!
You ever considered doing a stud conversion? That way you won't have to worry about getting different length lug bolts when trying out different size spacers
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Glad to hear some stuff is not "super back ordered"!
You ever considered doing a stud conversion? That way you won't have to worry about getting different length lug bolts when trying out different size spacers
No but I almost ordered the Titanium lug bolts. I decided $30 would work first until I settle on a size
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No but I almost ordered the Titanium lug bolts. I decided $30 would work first until I settle on a size
I'd advice against TI hardware for wheels. They sure are pretty, but, Ya can't use impact guns on them. You'd end up like me, sounding like a princess, asking anyone who works on your car to NOT use pneumatic tools 'cuz they can/will strip 'em.







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Nice studs. I thought you were joking
hmmm.
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Looks like these will do for non titanium studs:

https://motorsporthardware.com/produ...x1-5-audivwmb/

Thank you for the idea!

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Scratch that, on more reading the studs without a shoulder can get loose. Also on installation the non threaded part of the studs can go too deep into the hub ruining threads. Better to get a name brand with shoulder stud kit.

Also - dang it - the ECS spacer's just went out of stock again. I was alerted by email it is back to December. LOL. It's hard finding correct info on what will work on the front due to hub height, inner wheel bevel, combined with spacer chamfer (or not).
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Looks like these will do for non titanium studs:

https://motorsporthardware.com/produ...x1-5-audivwmb/

Thank you for the idea!
No Prb! I have been poisoning minds since the 80s!
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