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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 09:49 AM
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Correct. The point was to use Genuine (and pay for the Mercedes logo) or the exact same OE part. I would not use Fram or even Purolator for my Mercedes.

For folks unfamiliar with the terms Genuine, OE, OEM, and Aftermarket, here's a good tutorial:

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On the topic of oil filters, I use the cheapest store brand oil filter for the Cayenne with 5k-6k mile oil change intervals. Great Blackstone results every time.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 12:13 PM
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Of course there are different types... some of us are engineers, some are doctors, some are just hooligans... it takes all kinds
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 08:30 PM
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pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.
pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.

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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dspecialistb
pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.
pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.
Keep us posted
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dspecialistb
pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.
pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.
this signature oil may well be the very best.
It's spec'ed better than Motul so it should be at least really good. ✌️
I bet ExxonMobil supplies the PAO stock
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
this signature oil may well be the very best.
It's spec'ed better than Motul so it should be at least really good. ✌️
I bet ExxonMobil supplies the PAO stock
Yes! Look forward to hearing impressions : ). For now though, do we have any data and comparisons we can talk about in the meantime?
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 09:24 AM
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Is there any reason to look into this, or just focus on the signature blend?


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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 51north
Is there any reason to look into this, or just focus on the signature blend?

That is not 5W-50 though also one is mb approval 229.51 and the other is 229.5
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:09 AM
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Unfortunately I need to pay attention to cold flow characteristics here in northern Wisconsin.



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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 51north
Unfortunately I need to pay attention to cold flow characteristics here in northern Wisconsin.


Yikes. You might want to get something like 0W-40, unless you have a block heater but I doubt that helps enough.
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
That is not 5W-50 though also one is mb approval 229.51 and the other is 229.5
The two approvals are NOT just a newer version of one or the other. If your engine specifies 229.5, do not use 229.51. 229.51 is not a substitute for 229.5 for your engine.

https://operatingfluids.mercedes-ben...ory/engine-oil

https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/223.2




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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:15 AM
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At those temperatures you really want 0W https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...sity_chart.jpg
Source of image: https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-...osity-oil.html
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
The two approvals are NOT just a newer version of one or the other. If your engine specifies 229.5, do not use 229.51. 229.51 is not a substitute for 229.5 for your engine.

https://operatingfluids.mercedes-ben...ory/engine-oil

https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/223.2

Thanks for the reminder. Yes I know that : ) I appreciate the chart though. I specifically called it out because I noticed the difference which should had helped with their decision.
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Unfortunately I need to pay attention to cold flow characteristics here in northern Wisconsin.


I think you should get your head examined!
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:18 AM
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and I thought Canada was cold
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:26 AM
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I think you should get your head examined!
yeah, it's kind of a beating at times. I don't use any of my good cars when it gets like that.
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:38 AM
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Good info on MB 229 specs.

https://360.lubrizol.com/Specifications/Mercedes
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
The two approvals are NOT just a newer version of one or the other. If your engine specifies 229.5, do not use 229.51. 229.51 is not a substitute for 229.5 for your engine.

https://operatingfluids.mercedes-ben...ory/engine-oil

https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/223.2

in terms of 229.5 and 229.51 (not specified for M157)
thus 229.5 spec being compatible

So the amsoil before would be the one, yes?
not the red bottle signature.
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All I can say is what Mercedes publishes.
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Amsoil European Formula 229.5 (not signature red bottle)
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Motul 8100 Power

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anything else?
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in terms of 229.5 and 229.51 (not specified for M157)
thus 229.5 spec being compatible

So the amsoil before would be the one, yes?
not the red bottle signature.
I would say yes to the gray label. As in nature, red usually means danger — no touchy touch.
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Au contraire , anybody who owns an M157 lives for danger.
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I'm going to try this for a while. $115 shipped.
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pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.
pulled the trigger, hopefully I can give it a whirl next week or so.

Two weeks ago, on the phone they talked me into this one......



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