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I'm not sure how to search a single thread so sorry if this has already been asked - i pulled the oil solenoid plug a couple weeks ago - about 200 miles of driving. Super happy with results as the slight hesitation and transmission shudder i was experiencing was eliminated. Yesterday the car threw a P02990 code - boost pressure of turbocharger 1 is too low - car seemed to be driving normally though. Has anyone seen this after pulling the plug??? It's a '13 ML63 with 66k miles and has not thrown this code before. Thanks.
I'm not sure how to search a single thread so sorry if this has already been asked - i pulled the oil solenoid plug a couple weeks ago - about 200 miles of driving. Super happy with results as the slight hesitation and transmission shudder i was experiencing was eliminated. Yesterday the car threw a P02990 code - boost pressure of turbocharger 1 is too low - car seemed to be driving normally though. Has anyone seen this after pulling the plug??? It's a '13 ML63 with 66k miles and has not thrown this code before. Thanks.
I'm not sure how to search a single thread so sorry if this has already been asked - i pulled the oil solenoid plug a couple weeks ago - about 200 miles of driving. Super happy with results as the slight hesitation and transmission shudder i was experiencing was eliminated. Yesterday the car threw a P02990 code - boost pressure of turbocharger 1 is too low - car seemed to be driving normally though. Has anyone seen this after pulling the plug??? It's a '13 ML63 with 66k miles and has not thrown this code before. Thanks.
I believe you're the first out of 850 posts in this thread.
That is impressive. Does Blackstone have any comments on your additive approach? I am using Liquimoly Molygen - I assume you are using the regular stuff.
The additive package can be seen with the very levels of molybdenum. Blackstone has not stated their opinion on additives. But for me, its just a little extra insurance on reducing friction and wear so why not. Yes, I am using regular 5w-40 liquimoly
Originally Posted by JettaRed
@bentz69 FCP recommends using Ceratec every 5 oil changes/25,000 miles. Do you use it every change? Also, the 300ml bottle treats 5 liters, but our sumps hold more. Do you use more than one bottle per application?
I use ceratec every third oil change or roughly 30,000 miles. All other oil changes I use Mos2. Ceratec and Mos2 should not be used together. I use 2 300ml bottles per oil change.
Originally Posted by kevm14
Maybe I was right all along with MolyGen then. It isn't actually 229.5 approved (just "recommended").
Ceratec + MolyGen is a no no (and I don't use it anyway).
Many people use molygen with their amg motors even though its not approved. Molygen essentially has the additive already included. Ive just stuck with what has been working for me on my last two cars.
I agree. It just sounded like there would be an adverse reaction if you added Cera Tec to MolyGen. Maybe overkill, if not a waste of money. Once I deplete my Mobil 1 0W-40 using Cera Tek, I'll probably switch to the MolyGen, as well.
I just had visions of what happened when I added Redline Water Wetter to my coolant in my VW Jetta once. All sorts of solids formed and turned the coolant from pink to brown before I flushed everything and went back to only G-12 and water.
Originally Posted by kevm14
Yes:
I guess it would be nice to see this in writing but it makes enough sense to me.
The BITOG forum is almost exclusively about how to be cheap and increase your OCI to as high as possible. That's why almost he first recommendation you're going to get is M1 oil "good enough, has everything you need". They dislike additives because they say "The oil additive package already has what you need in it."
One of the best recommendations I got on there was to try High Performance Lubricants' oil. Which I will be trying based on talking to the company owner. I am first going to try their Engine Cleaner in my fiancé's 2001 Lexus ES300 (prone to sludging) and see how it goes. Their engine cleaner is an oil with a very heavy additive package to clean the engine out and is recommended as a transition step to their oils. Only drawback is their oils are certainly not cheap compared to ordering something on FCP and getting free oil for life essentially, I'd definitely use it for a track weekend though.
I'm debating the HPL or buying 2 jugs of Motul 8100 Power from FCP for return policy and trying that after I do the HPL Engine Clean.
The additive package can be seen with the very levels of molybdenum. Blackstone has not stated their opinion on additives. But for me, its just a little extra insurance on reducing friction and wear so why not. Yes, I am using regular 5w-40 liquimoly
I use ceratec every third oil change or roughly 30,000 miles. All other oil changes I use Mos2. Ceratec and Mos2 should not be used together. I use 2 300ml bottles per oil change.
Many people use molygen with their amg motors even though its not approved. Molygen essentially has the additive already included. Ive just stuck with what has been working for me on my last two cars.
How would you describe your driving habits? That will drastically affect your oil health and how long you can go for OCIs.
With the mod, given the higher mechanical contact and overall time under heat, your oil will almost certainly degrade faster than your previous changes. Overall, the best adage is "oil is cheap, engines are expensive" especially if you're getting your Lifetime replacement from FCP Euro. If you want the best gauge, you'd do the UOA (as you are) and also visually inspect inside the engine for the cylinders and carbon build up.
I'm not sure how to search a single thread so sorry if this has already been asked - i pulled the oil solenoid plug a couple weeks ago - about 200 miles of driving. Super happy with results as the slight hesitation and transmission shudder i was experiencing was eliminated. Yesterday the car threw a P02990 code - boost pressure of turbocharger 1 is too low - car seemed to be driving normally though. Has anyone seen this after pulling the plug??? It's a '13 ML63 with 66k miles and has not thrown this code before. Thanks.
Your code isn’t going to be oil control related. It’s either bad vacuum or something with the waste gates. Check out the thread that was posted. Hope it points you in the right direction!
Just unplugged my ‘14 GL63 after reading this thread. Quick tip: after releasing the gray clip, ensure it’s this grey clip you depress when pulling the plug. I struggled with mine for a bit (and it’s a bit of a pain to access with the active body control crap in the way on the GL). There’s not enough wiring to strap the plug anywhere so I’ve resorted to some dielectric grease on the contacts for now.
No CEL on the GL. Our weather is bitterly cold up here in BC at the moment so I’ll have to give it a bit more time to see how the drivability is as roads are snowy/slick.
I still don’t get how FCP Euro is able to do the whole “lifetime” oil exchange thing.
Because most customers simply never take advantage of it. So givent hat their prices are higher than other places to account for the people that do take advantage, it balances out to being profitable. Almost no one is going to drain the oil back into bottles to return.
They also will refuse return on a case by case basis. Be it frequency of returns, or any other factor.
Because most customers simply never take advantage of it. So givent hat their prices are higher than other places to account for the people that do take advantage, it balances out to being profitable. Almost no one is going to drain the oil back into bottles to return.
They also will refuse return on a case by case basis. Be it frequency of returns, or any other factor.
anybody who lives by the FCP Euro distribution center has it made because they can simply walk back to the front desk with the used products and ask for a new product.... possibly.
anybody who lives by the FCP Euro distribution center has it made because they can simply walk back to the front desk with the used products and ask for a new product.... possibly.
EExcept the only way I'd want to live it CT is if I lived in what is that crazy rich area, Greenwich? Haha
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by AMGandS1K
... Almost no one is going to drain the oil back into bottles to return...
Ummm, I'm right here!
I did return the tranny fluid because that stuff is so damned expensive, and they credited the full NEW price to my account. In the past, I think they actually refunded your credit card, but now they are just giving store credit, which is fine.
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by AMGandS1K
EExcept the only way I'd want to live it CT is if I lived in what is that crazy rich area, Greenwich? Haha
FCP used to be FCP Groton, if I remember correctly.
Sadly, I have to agree about living in CT. The political environment is bad enough in Maryland, but anywhere from New Jersey north is worse until you reach New Hampshire (Maine is questionable). Greenwich is just a suburb or NYC, though CT is a beautiful state. And there's always Mystic Pizza.
FCP used to be FCP Groton, if I remember correctly.
Sadly, I have to agree about living in CT. The political environment is bad enough in Maryland, but anywhere from New Jersey north is worse until you reach New Hampshire (Maine is questionable). Greenwich is just a suburb or NYC, though CT is a beautiful state. And there's always Mystic Pizza.
They still are that, that's what shows up on your charges when you buy form them. I think they are using a dba name of FCP Euro or made FCP Euro a subsidiary company that FCP Groton is owner of. Either way, same people.
And yes, I take full advantage of the Lifetime policy lol. As of last year ECS Tuning now has the same policy excluding consumable liquids and a few other things. So they're a good avenue as well for some parts that FCP doesn't carry.
I did return the tranny fluid because that stuff is so damned expensive, and they credited the full NEW price to my account. In the past, I think they actually refunded your credit card, but now they are just giving store credit, which is fine.
I send in my oil. Postage is about $25, so that's a good price for the Liqui Moly oil change kit.
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by AMGandS1K
They still are that, that's what shows up on your charges when you buy form them. I think they are using a dba name of FCP Euro or made FCP Euro a subsidiary company that FCP Groton is owner of. Either way, same people.
And yes, I take full advantage of the Lifetime policy lol. As of last year ECS Tuning now has the same policy excluding consumable liquids and a few other things. So they're a good avenue as well for some parts that FCP doesn't carry.
Wonder if they relocated from Groton to Milford, where it seems they do all of their business from. Or do they have two locations? And if they did move, that would make sense to change the name, even if as a dba.
This is an interesting comparison for my 62K M157, same liquimoly 5w-40 oil but no additives. 7500 (with solenoid plugged in) is longer than usual, I target 5K miles (when dip stick starts to hover around min mark).
Most notable difference is molybdenum and the fact that your OCI is twice as long. Wonder how do we compare the heaviness of the foot
Originally Posted by bentz69
I may be the minority here but I have always done 10,000-11,000+ mile OCI's using liquimoly 5w-40 with either ceratec or mos2 (depending on the interval) on my previous '14 w204 m156 c63 for approximately 90,000 miles and wear metals were always within spec AND the TBN showed significant life left in the oil. Blackstone analysis stated I could run the oil for at least 13,000 miles if I wanted to.
Now with the '16 w218 m157 cls63s, I still use the same oil and additives while following the same 10,000+ OCI's. Results are the same. Wear metals always within spec and TBN shows a good amount of life left. Car currently has about 58,000 miles.
I unplugged the solenoid right when I did the last oil change in early December and sent in the sample to blackstone. That sample had 10400 miles and Its currently being processed. Since unplugging, I have appx 2000 miles on the new oil. Reading this thread has me wondering if I should shorten the OCI to maybe 5,000 or 6,000 and send in the sample or continue with my 10,000+ interval. Either way, Ill be sending in a sample like always.
Edit. Report came in today
Last edited by san40; 01-13-2024 at 02:49 PM.
Reason: solenoid comment
This is an interesting comparison for my 62K M157, same liquimoly 5w-40 oil but no additives. 7500 (with solenoid plugged in) is longer than usual, I target 5K miles (when dip stick starts to hover around min mark).
Most notable difference is molybdenum and the fact that your OCI is twice as long. Wonder how do we compare the heaviness of the foot
My driving style is mostly highway cruising with some local. My car often sees redline once or twice a day though.
I am curious as to why the cold start sounds so different since being unplugged. Seemed like RPMs would drop to idle very quickly soon after unplugged but now seems to have adjusted back to holding the revs higher but still sounds different than before.
01-11-2024, 10:30 AM
