Which Engine Oil?




I’ve tried searching your posting about oil, but couldn’t find anything.
if you could forward it to me, I’d appreciate it.
lastly, any reason why you’re hesitant on additives?




The MOTUL easter base stock truly handles high heat without oxidizing but 5w40 viscosity is too short... so it can get vaporized.
5w40 viscosity seems huge next to a modern 10w30 oil. It's just our oil pump is under rev'ed and squirters are under-sized.
Valvoline 15w40 viscosity was an improvement but the stock oil oxidize this time without vaporizing.
So it's a mixed bag
Now I am hoping the excellent Motul ester 5W50 will remain stable and cool passed 3kMi.
All marketing claims over promise an under deliver. It is really difficult to come up with a short list of good products that meet our needs and are available at a fair price-point.
+++ Nice seal! +++
What I am really enjoying are the responsive rich mixtures and solid accelerator pedal when contributions are balanced from clean sealed rings.
The ECU keeps the tranny working around 2000.Rpm... not confused with 7th gear at 30Mph!






I am going to use paint thinner as a mild solvent...
poured in to cover the bypass valve cup
dump that on a paper towel for collection
rinse with unused left over 15w40 oil.
It's only a free insurance step.
I am curious to see if any metal shavings were stored.
We believe this is how contaminents that spin bearings around enter the clean oil stream.
Spun bearings are so common that may indicate a failure of the plastic bypass valve with stock oil.





Motul 8100 X-cess gen2 does state MB Approved right in front of its bottle.
Concerning factor surely, any feedback in regards to this?




from 0w40 all the way to 5w40:
essentially the same thin oil that rapidly shear.
If you want to remain closer stock... MOTUL 5W40 API-SP ester oil does a real good job with uncontrolled heat and honey unburned color.
CASTROL Edge perhaps does too ??
Look for "API-SP" rating.
VVT Gears positioning is MAPPED... not dynamically calculated.
This best requires stable oil viscosity ie. temperature!
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Nov 9, 2024 at 03:35 PM.




Why don’t you use it cali? Given motul300v’s viscosity is superior of it all.
Last edited by E63SAMG2014; Nov 9, 2024 at 05:38 PM.








motul300v is same price as motul power
the focal point is that the oil shears quick and oxidizes. 300v is a proven oil that is least likely to shear. I just don’t get why not spend more on oil to prevent such tragedy? And not to mention it’s merely a double the price of xcess gen2 and a mobil1s and liquimoly.
in life you get what you pay for right?
it seems ludacris for 63 owners to cheap out on 100 dollars compared to “generic” oil.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG




the focal point is that the oil shears quick and oxidizes. 300v is a proven oil that is least likely to shear. I just don’t get why not spend more on oil to prevent such tragedy? And not to mention it’s merely a double the price of xcess gen2 and a mobil1s and liquimoly.
in life you get what you pay for right?
it seems ludacris for 63 owners to cheap out on 100 dollars compared to “generic” oil.
best of the best... for some applications
I believe racing oil uses heavy ZDDP that's not compatible with Cats + Lambda longevity. This is done to supplement lost viscosity under high heat.
5W40 viscosity is what "MB Approval" calls for.
Ester based formula will handle racing heat without shearing into a 10W30
MOTUL API-SP oil in 5W40 weight.
Within the limits of your pre-selection....
I'd use the above for its proven flash point.
You won't get a lot of missing oil vaporized onto your intake valves.
The RedLine you're showing is an excellent ZDDP racing oil for cat-free tuned ECU.
My personal fav. being:
MOTUL API-SP in 5W50 weight
(received this week!)




Im at 1k miles with the 50 and it truly is performing better, for me.
For anyone really wanting to learn about oil and form their own conclusions, I really recommend “the oil geek” on YouTube. He is unmatched in his modern conveyance of this knowledge, imo.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...72k-miles.html
Last edited by Baltistyle; Nov 10, 2024 at 11:42 AM.




I’ve decided to go with redline euro for now. Not the full synthetic redline that contains high zddp.
next will try the x-cess gen2.
than onto motul 8100 power




It's a compatible MB Approved oil
(besides SN: LSPI)
-- Your engine may be well served with
MOTUL 5W40 ester based API-SP... really clean!
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Nov 15, 2024 at 04:06 PM.




Great feedback, I will proceed with the following
previously I’ve used 5-40 MB Euro FS
it’s API-CF rated. It states of MB approved 229.5 unlike motul power. I wonder why
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-fs-5w-40
Should I add Mos2 with it? As I’ve always done during Oil change. Or no
Last edited by E63SAMG2014; Nov 15, 2024 at 04:42 PM.








When you become motivated to cancel throttle lag and heatsoaks you can willfully decide to experiment beyond the limits of stock oiling.
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Nov 15, 2024 at 05:21 PM.




In the past, I’ve used mobil1 fs euro, Liquimoly and onto mb dealership oils. (Always a bottle of mos2 was added)
I will be passing on the redline and motul excess gen2 and decided on going forward with Motul 8100 power.
the car is bone stock, but I do driving it like it’s stolen.
Would like to use what best engine oil, money could buy at the same time staying within spec according to MB.
Last edited by E63SAMG2014; Nov 15, 2024 at 05:33 PM.




Great feedback, I will proceed with the following
previously I’ve used 5-40 MB Euro FS
it’s API-CF rated. It states of MB approved 229.5 unlike motul power. I wonder why
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/...bil-1-fs-5w-40
Should I add Mos2 with it? As I’ve always done during Oil change. Or no
Feel free to spot if any API-SP are MB-Approved.
Newer API-SP formulation is a departure in friction modifiers to mitigate LSPI issues with low tension rings.
LiqMoly is big on pushing additives where all other oil companies provide complete lubricant package and recommend against tainting their blend.
"Mobil1 supercar" oil features heavy friction-modifiers... all-inclusive package.

Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Nov 15, 2024 at 05:38 PM.




Feel free to spot if any API-SP are MB-Approved.
Newer API-SP formulation is a departure in friction modifiers to mitigate LSPI issues with low tension rings.
LiqMoly is big on pushing additives where all other oil companies provide complete lubricant package and recommend against tainting their blend.
"Mobil1 supercar" oil features heavy friction-modifiers... all-inclusive package.

I only wish it had some kind of “mb approved” stamp 🤣




In the past, I’ve used mobil1 fs euro, Liquimoly and onto mb dealership oils. (Always a bottle of mos2 was added)
I will be passing on the redline and motul excess gen2 and decided on going forward with Motul 8100 power.
the car is bone stock, but I do driving it like it’s stolen.
Would like to use what best engine oil, money could buy at the same time staying within spec according to MB.
-1- Motul ester base
-2- "Mobil1 Supercar"
-3- Castrol Edge
-4- Amsoil Signature
Last edited by CaliBenzDriver; Nov 15, 2024 at 05:54 PM.





