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Feb 15, 2018 | 01:36 AM

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I’d bet you’re right but I already felt the W212 E63 was too harsh and gave up too much comfort for too little handling improvement over the W211. I’m willing to give up canyon prowess for a bit more comfort...which is why after being partial to AMG for a good while, I’m considering the RS7 for my next vehicle.

I had an RS7, now if ya wanna talk about a ****ty handling fast car you got it...a boat that squats at 90 mph when you nail the loud peddle and feels as if it wants to go bottom up around a corner..
It felt like a 57 Caddy..

Feb 15, 2018 | 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ronin amg

But was it more comfortable than either W212 or W213? Cos if I remember right, that car also had a harsh ride especially giving its less than stellar handling.
I think Chiro's issue is more to do with comfort than just ****ty handling.

Feb 15, 2018 | 10:06 AM

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Who cares about driving in a straight line and who cares about 0-60 or zero anything. Throttle response and grip is what I care about in my world.

If I cared about 0-60 I would have kept my old Ford RS200e, this pulled 0-60 in 1.8 sec.

and the bmw with the traditional tc will likely have a better throttle response than the mct will ... I want my daily drive to be less annoying than it has been with this mct

Feb 15, 2018 | 10:31 AM

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and the bmw with the traditional tc will likely have a better throttle response than the mct will ... I want my daily drive to be less annoying than it has been with this mct

ill have both the E63s and the M5 and will post a review on each one. My M5 is stuck at the VPC for who knows how long. Sound familiar?

Feb 15, 2018 | 10:35 AM

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and the bmw with the traditional tc will likely have a better throttle response than the mct will ... I want my daily drive to be less annoying than it has been with this mct

Do you own and drive a 2018 E63s ?

Feb 15, 2018 | 10:36 AM

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Plus no one can get an M5 wagon...

Exactly... immediately takes me out of the M5 market (that and the douche factor in a BMW). Numbers for the new M5 are certainly impressive, but what can it do on Nurburgring vs the E63S sedan? Still eager to see what the E63S sedan can get on the track. 7:35 or better?

Feb 15, 2018 | 11:23 AM

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I have both right now but I have DRC on my RS7 Performance version which is springs and dampers vs the fluff air suspension. While the car is still nowhere near as planted as my E63S; its a much better version of the RS7 handling wise than the air ones. I even took both a DRC and non DRC car out on the same roads and turns (to compare back to back) which included higher speed straights, bends, and sharper turns. The air version just had too much yaw and roll. But the RS7 doesnt need to pretend to be a handler, its a freeway crusher and its very comfortable inside- much moreso than my E63S.

C&D did measure the E63S at 1.01g vs .98 in the M5 on the skid pad if that matters.

Feb 15, 2018 | 01:06 PM

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and the bmw with the traditional tc will likely have a better throttle response than the mct will ... I want my daily drive to be less annoying than it has been with this mct

With the old 7 speed MCT that would make sense abut the new 9 speed is significantly better.

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Feb 15, 2018 | 01:14 PM

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With the old 7 speed MCT that would make sense abut the new 9 speed is significantly better.

Concur.

Its much better and Ive had 5 seven speed MCT's...the electronics have made the all the difference as the mechanics havent really changed except for the addition of 2 gears.

Feb 15, 2018 | 11:45 PM

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Putting a bunch of HP in a car is one thing, but is this their first AWD car? Getting that done right and making the car hook up and handle right on the first try will be quite an accomplishment.

It is not BMW’s first AWD car. I believe the first one was the E30 325 ix circa 1987 or so. They also have a multitude of X series SUVs with AWD for many years now of course, some of them already kicking out over 500 hp (X5M, X6M).

Feb 16, 2018 | 03:47 PM

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With the old 7 speed MCT that would make sense abut the new 9 speed is significantly better.

ill reserve final judgement until I drive the new m5, but there are a few people that have mentioned the mct quirks on the new e63S.... of course it's better Than the 7 mct, but it can't be as smooth as a torque converter auto for daily driving that involves some bumper to bumper and frequent stop and go

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Feb 16, 2018 | 03:50 PM

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I haven't noticed any quirks in my GTS or my e63s wagon in traffic and I live in LA the land of bumper to bumper.

Feb 16, 2018 | 04:05 PM

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I haven't noticed any quirks in my GTS or my e63s wagon in traffic and I live in LA the land of bumper to bumper.

thats good to hear ... what about stop and go in S or S+

Feb 16, 2018 | 04:11 PM

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thats good to hear ... what about stop and go in S or S+

To be honest if I'm in bumper to bumper I just leave it in comfort.

Feb 16, 2018 | 04:29 PM

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I've driven the car about 4600 miles now. I would say that for low speed driving, especially when the car is cold right out of the garage, Sport+ is a little too responsive for me at low speeds, especially over some bumps near my house as I pull away from a light. It's not really a transmission issue so much as throttle response, I think. Probably because I'm used to driving vehicles with less responsive throttles. Once the car is warmed up it seems easier to drive.

Like Ronin, I put it in comfort mode (with exhaust valves open or closed depending upon my mood and where I am) if I'm in stop and go and in town traffic where there's no point in being in Sport+ other than to make the exhaust snarl more.

The benefit of being in comfort mode is that I get cylinder deactivation, coasting, and engine stop at lights. Results in a noticeable improvement in mileage when I do that.

But other than me being a bit of a spaz on the throttle, I haven't had any issues with shifting of the trans or smoothly pulling away from a stop, etc.

Feb 19, 2018 | 02:33 PM

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Those are some crazy numbers!!!! Cant wait for the drag strip runs at the same time.

Here are the C&D numbers for E63S- closest thing to apples and apples- mostly off by two tenths in most measurements. That curb weight hurts (4288 vs 4587).

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.0 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 11.9 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 16.6 sec
Zero to 170 mph: 23.3 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.3 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.1 sec @ 126 mph
Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 186 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.01 g

there is no way to get these 0-60 in real life. I tried so many times with racelogic pbox ..

Mar 22, 2018 | 08:33 AM

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.... Let's try this again

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/r...-s-124469.html

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Mar 22, 2018 | 10:32 AM

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there is no way to get these 0-60 in real life. I tried so many times with racelogic pbox ..

In stock form, I was getting consistent 3.1x 0-60s according to my Dragy. Tuned and in far from optimal conditions, I'm consistently seeing 3.0x with the best being 3.02. The car is spinning wheels, hopping a bit which is scary and short-shifting to mitigate it and despite that is still almost in the 2s.

Mar 22, 2018 | 10:39 AM

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.... Let's try this again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...&v=Fze5OzyGgqA

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/r...-s-124469.html

I hope this path to more power from Renntech doesn't come at the expense of the effort devoted toward ECU- or software-only tunes. I strongly suspect there's a great deal more to be had from this car's stock hardware. The comparably powered and ECU-only mod'd RS7s are seeing low 10.4s and some are in the 10.3s (I think that's correct but aftermarket downpipes might've been in the picture).

Nonetheless, that's a great time!

Mar 22, 2018 | 11:09 AM

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.... Let's try this again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...&v=Fze5OzyGgqA

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/r...-s-124469.html

I was expecting quite a bit more performance from upgraded turbos, DPs, fuel system, and tires...

Mar 22, 2018 | 11:20 AM

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I was expecting quite a bit more performance from upgraded turbos, DPs, fuel system, and tires...

Me too, thats a lot of "hardware" to get to those numbers albeit nice numbers.

Dean: I think the the 10.3X RS7's all have DP's.... I would have to check the database at Audizine but IIRC the best car non stage 2 was in the mid 10's. But this is just proof that the RS7 clearly jumps up much better with mods and less of them.