New E63 gets worse MPG than outgoing model that has a bigger engine!!
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Not necessarily true.
EU has strict CO (Carbon Monoxide) & CO2 (CarbonDioxide) Standards. Whereas the US has very strict NOX (Nitrogen Oxides) & PM (Particulate Matter) Standards.
With higher NOX and PM numbers you can achieve higher efficiency - Which leads to Higher Gas Mileage.
In the US they focus more on NOX and PM as to reduce health impacts and SMOG levels - Which leads to Lower Gas Milage
I just had no idea that it's a 30% difference in milage!
EU has strict CO (Carbon Monoxide) & CO2 (CarbonDioxide) Standards. Whereas the US has very strict NOX (Nitrogen Oxides) & PM (Particulate Matter) Standards.
With higher NOX and PM numbers you can achieve higher efficiency - Which leads to Higher Gas Mileage.
In the US they focus more on NOX and PM as to reduce health impacts and SMOG levels - Which leads to Lower Gas Milage
I just had no idea that it's a 30% difference in milage!
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Not necessarily true.
EU has strict CO (Carbon Monoxide) & CO2 (CarbonDioxide) Standards. Whereas the US has very strict NOX (Nitrogen Oxides) & PM (Particulate Matter) Standards.
With higher NOX and PM numbers you can achieve higher efficiency - Which leads to Higher Gas Mileage.
In the US they focus more on NOX and PM as to reduce health impacts and SMOG levels - Which leads to Lower Gas Milage
I just had no idea that it's a 30% difference in milage!
EU has strict CO (Carbon Monoxide) & CO2 (CarbonDioxide) Standards. Whereas the US has very strict NOX (Nitrogen Oxides) & PM (Particulate Matter) Standards.
With higher NOX and PM numbers you can achieve higher efficiency - Which leads to Higher Gas Mileage.
In the US they focus more on NOX and PM as to reduce health impacts and SMOG levels - Which leads to Lower Gas Milage
I just had no idea that it's a 30% difference in milage!
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Does this setup get better gas mileage than the new 2018 AMG ? https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ger-whine.html
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Does this setup get better gas mileage than the new 2018 AMG ? https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ger-whine.html
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It all depends on how you drive. I had a 212 Wagon (2012) and it never would have got 28 MPG at a constant 65 mph, more like 23 MPG. But you go much over that and the 4 cylinder mode becomes inactive and the 213 is much closer to the 212 in MPG. But in normal way of driving both these cars are not much difference in MPG, maybe the 213 is around 2 MPG better. As was said earlier in this thread the 213 is much more potent than the 212. Quarter mile is at least 1/2 second faster than the 212 and thats a lot.
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have you been living under a rock? That was their whole point of getting rid of the old engine was for more fuel-efficiency. That’s what I’m saying the crux of their argument doesn’t even make sense because the new engine is an even more fuel-efficient
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Sounds like you are living under a rock if you think that fuel efficiency was the only reason to develop a better AMG engine.
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GM figured it out a long time ago. Engine must have a long stroke to capture more power, and optimize the engine for low rpm (where the engine is most of the time).
That's why GM small block has huge displacement, gets good mileage, and has lots of torque.
That's why GM small block has huge displacement, gets good mileage, and has lots of torque.
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Actually, it was my understanding MB (and Audi/VAG) went to 4.0 liter engines because of the onerous excise taxes scheduled to be imposed in China on engines over 4.0 liters. They all see that as such an important emerging market that they felt it made more economical sense to just conform their whole line of engines globally. It is surprising that BMW has bucked the trend keeping its 4.4.
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Just checked. The excise tax is now 40% in China for cars with engines over 4.0 liters. That can put you at a pretty significant disadvantage if not conforming (compared to a 25% excise tax on cars with engines from 3.0 to 4.0 liters).
Just checked. The excise tax is now 40% in China for cars with engines over 4.0 liters. That can put you at a pretty significant disadvantage if not conforming (compared to a 25% excise tax on cars with engines from 3.0 to 4.0 liters).
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I imagine that it has already been stated somewhere in the thread (I have not read it all) but, to buy a performance car and then worry about consumption (gas mileage) is like self flagellation!
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Actually, it was my understanding MB (and Audi/VAG) went to 4.0 liter engines because of the onerous excise taxes scheduled to be imposed in China on engines over 4.0 liters. They all see that as such an important emerging market that they felt it made more economical sense to just conform their whole line of engines globally. It is surprising that BMW has bucked the trend keeping its 4.4.
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it makes crazy torque at lower rpm (3k rpm) and it’s a higher displacement v8 Biturbo
