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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 02:12 PM
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3 zone climate control + massage seats + sound system questions

1. Does the massage seats options give the seats active bolsters?

2. If you don't get the 3-zone climate control, does that mean your car has none of these: humidity sensor, dust/pollen filter, activated charcoal filter?

3. Does the 3D Burmester system get any actual sound upgrades, or is it just spinning speakers that come out of the headrest? How big of an audible difference is there between the two?

I can't find a 2019 E63 Sedan order guide anywhere on the forum, for what it is worth. If anybody has one to post

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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 02:48 PM
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1. It does bring active side bolsters

2. Not sure. But I believe the charcoal filter will be missing. The ionizer and humidity filter I believe comes with the fragrance system optional

3. I am not an audiophile but the standard burmeister is more than enough to me and does not justify the price

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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tonecas
1. It does bring active side bolsters

2. Not sure. But I believe the charcoal filter will be missing. The ionizer and humidity filter I believe comes with the fragrance system optional

3. I am not an audiophile but the standard burmeister is more than enough to me and does not justify the price
I really appreciate your response.

> I believe the charcoal filter will be missing

Does this matter? Like... what difference does it really make? lol
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 03:06 PM
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Regarding question 3. Our 2018 has the 3D Sound upgrade. We just spent 2 days with a 2019 E300 with the standard sound system. It had 10 miles on it when we got it as the loaner when ours went in for service. I spent some time customizing settings. So we were able to do a back to back comparison using the same audio sources.
When listening to Satellite radio there was a small but easily noticeable difference. Both my wife and I picked it up right away, the 3D is better sounding. With one of my WAV file USB’s as the source it was not even close, the 3D is far better. That does not mean the standard system is bad or in any way undesirable. Only each individual can decide if the cost of the 3D is worth it to them.
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadrobenz
Regarding question 3. Our 2018 has the 3D Sound upgrade. We just spent 2 days with a 2019 E300 with the standard sound system. It had 10 miles on it when we got it as the loaner when ours went in for service. I spent some time customizing settings. So we were able to do a back to back comparison using the same audio sources.
When listening to Satellite radio there was a small but easily noticeable difference. Both my wife and I picked it up right away, the 3D is better sounding. With one of my WAV file USB’s as the source it was not even close, the 3D is far better. That does not mean the standard system is bad or in any way undesirable. Only each individual can decide if the cost of the 3D is worth it to them.
Damn... the $100k+ E63 AMG S has the same stock Burmester audio system as an E300?
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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Not in Europe. We have as stock the base MB sound system. Then the burmeister and finally the 3d burmeister
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 04:33 PM
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The loaner E300 had the Burmester non 3D sound system. Not sure if it is standard or an upgrade on the US 2019 E300. We did not have the window sticker in the car.
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I just checked the configurator for the E300. In the US the Burmester surround system is part of the $3150 Premium package. The 3D System is then an additional $5400 after the Premium package is selected.
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
1. Does the massage seats options give the seats active bolsters?

2. If you don't get the 3-zone climate control, does that mean your car has none of these: humidity sensor, dust/pollen filter, activated charcoal filter?

3. Does the 3D Burmester system get any actual sound upgrades, or is it just spinning speakers that come out of the headrest? How big of an audible difference is there between the two?

I can't find a 2019 E63 Sedan order guide anywhere on the forum, for what it is worth. If anybody has one to post
3-Zone Climate Control (581) is a separate system for the rear passengers. It has nothing to do with those other things. P21 (Air Balance Cabin Air Fragrance and Filtration System) adds some filtering to the standard filtering. Humidity sensing is integral to the base climate control.
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 05:09 PM
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I don't think the MB USA E63 configurator is correct: https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehic...E/model-E63W4S

I was told with 2019, there is no longer a premium package and the head up display is a separate option. The site does not reflect this.

Does anybody know where to find an order guide?
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Originally Posted by Quadrobenz
Regarding question 3. Our 2018 has the 3D Sound upgrade. We just spent 2 days with a 2019 E300 with the standard sound system. It had 10 miles on it when we got it as the loaner when ours went in for service. I spent some time customizing settings. So we were able to do a back to back comparison using the same audio sources.
When listening to Satellite radio there was a small but easily noticeable difference. Both my wife and I picked it up right away, the 3D is better sounding. With one of my WAV file USB’s as the source it was not even close, the 3D is far better. That does not mean the standard system is bad or in any way undesirable. Only each individual can decide if the cost of the 3D is worth it to them.
Agreed! I've had the standard system in a 2017 E300 and the 3D system in the 2018 E63S. No comparison. You can't get the 3D system in the wagon, however.
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 04:11 AM
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You guys are lucky, in UK you can’t get massage seats or the 3D sound upgrade.
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
or is it just spinning speakers that come out of the headrest?
Maybe before posting such “non sense” questions -read about difference on official mercedes web site ? Which says the difference and why you are overpaying for 3D

or its it’s easier to post a topic?
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