You guys are making my decision to get into and 2018 E63S w/ PE and P3 pkg so much easier! Found one for 85K 12K miles msrp 125K with options

 

Todd and Debbie

 

Had many cars. Prefer 2 door coupes. Bought C63S sedan reluctantly but was a compromise to wife who hates coupes and we were planning to have kids back in July 2016, so she swayed me. She also didnt like SUVs and never drove the Range Rover so Sedan was going to do baby duty. Now I saw the E63S at my dealer and couldn't stop drooling over it. By now Range Rover had become primary baby mobile. Wife was pregnant with second baby, but she now loves the SUV. So she was ok with me buying anything I wanted. Of all the AMGs in there it was the E63S that was calling me. I have driven them all at AMG driving academy, but had not driven this E63S. Took one out on a drive and came back to the E53 coupe, and made up my mind.

You know best car I have had to date. No regrets. Love the thing. I dont think youll regret buying it unless it turns out to be a lemon. Go drive make sure its all good and take the plunge. It only gets better and better as you get used to the size and get comfortable flinging it around.

 

Did the OP take delivery of the Macan? I am surprised no one suggested the S63 or S63 coupe. Those two vehicles seem more like the CLS63 than the E63.

 

I just got my 2020 wagon and have only put 50 miles on it. I’m coming from a 2017 X5M which the E63s is replacing. I also have a 2018 991.2 GT3 Touring.

My wagon was in the showroom so I drove a 2020 E63s sedan which was pretty much the exact same spec except it had Pirelli rubber. I was happy the wagon had Michelin’s but there is something about the wagon that feels stiffer and more road vibration/tire noise in rough pavement than the sedan mostly through the front wheels. Maybe it’s the Pirelli rubber that’s softer. Maybe it’s just tire pressures.

While the E63s isn’t as stiff as the GT3, the E63s has quite a bit of tire noise and pavement vibration up through the front wheels. Seems like it almost has solid bushings. I didn’t notice that on the sedan but it was probably tires or pressures that made the difference. I think they should probably make some adjustments with the air suspension so that the car can go a few notches softer in comfort mode. I would love a setting that soaks up all the bumps in the city but stiffens up the way it is now when you want to.

All that being said I drove a Panamera GTS, Tesla Model X, Range Rover SVR, BMW X7 M50i and BMW X5 M50i (because new X5M isn’t out yet). As soon as I drove the E63s the decision was made. It’s one bad MF, the interior is amazing and it’s just a very exciting car to drive. The rest of them made me sleepy. The Range was OK but I know it’s a crappy car so I just couldn’t do it. The E63s seems like a very well put together car and the technology is also very good.

OP: Macan is LOLz compared to the E63s. It’s a Tiguan man. Even the Panamera GTS was super boring compared to the E63s.

 

kinglenario, how do you compare the ride comfort of the Panamera vs the E63? Setting aside engine power, acceleration and exhaust sound.

 

im curious, how does the E63s compare to the X5M? I have a 2020 E63s due for delivery in a few weeks and currently own a 2017 X5M.

I only drove the E63s on super smooth German roads and absolutely fell in love with it.

The X5M I never really fell in love with. It was fun during a test drive but once I took the delivery I really didn’t love it. It also didn’t help that my car was plagued with issues.

 

X5M is fast and pretty comfortable. I don’t really have any complaints except for the Pirelli tires which are the only ones that fit on the car because they’re a custom size. It has been good for my kids and I can tow with it. The exhaust sound is terrible but other than that it’s been a solid car.

E63s is definitely a lot faster and interior is really nice. Plus a nice exhaust note and much better handling obviously.

 

Suspension wise the Panamera GTS was quieter, softer and smoother. It also felt more disconnected and the steering feel wasn’t as good. All Porsche suspension is really nice. It’s a much more insulated car than the E63s. If the GTS had 150 more HP and a better exhaust it would be a winner. It’s also much smaller inside and I wanted the wagon for my kids. The front interior section of the E63s seems much bigger and more roomy. The E63s is a frothing beast in comparison.

I turned all the traction off on the GTS and it was REALLY hard to even break loose at all. I was like meh. It felt slower than my x5m. Even though the exhaust didn’t do it for me like the E63s it is pretty good because they connect a resonator to the chassis so you can hear it on the inside at all speeds (at least that’s what I was told). It’s a cool idea. It would be a nice highway cruiser and if I didn’t already have a GT3 I may have thought about it more seriously. It just didn’t excite me.

 

Great write up. Similar garage, E63 wagon and 3RS. The E63 is stiff and harsh, with lots of tire and road noise. Even when rose jointed suspension, the RS is not harsh (stiff as it is) but the suspension tuning is miles ahead (as it should be given purpose and price.) I think Mercedes has a lot of room to improve here, even given the weight and other constraints.

Also note that the wagon shape adds resonance that significantly amplifies things like road and tire noise. Still worth it!

 

Yes that was my experience with the Wagon, lots of road noise, vibrations and very harsh ride. It made the drive from New England to Florida I do every fall and spring not very enjoyable. My E450's are a joy to drive on long jaunts. The E63 AMG has it's place but I'd say in a area where there lots of smooth canyon roads on short trips. I did not find it to be a very good general purpose car and no regrets trading it in. It was a very abrupt and in your face type of car, the Camaro SS I rented this past week sort of reminded me of the AMG and it sure did feel good to be back in my E450 when I flew back to Florida last night after a short trip back to New England for the Holiday. I've long felt it's kinda a shame as I really did enjoy driving my 2012 E63 AMG wagon even though it a propensity to bend a lot of rims on New England Bumpy roads. I guess Mercedes must have had input from customers that they wanted more of a race type of car vs luxury and that's why the AMG E63 evolved as it did.

 

I'm really not sure how to interpret the OP's post as it simply does not make sense to me.

2019 Wagon here, first AMG. A little over 8000 miles on it now and I can't get the smile off my face. I walk outside in the morning, or just take out the trash and pass the vehicle and cannot help but think "Damn, that is badass" every daggum time.

@2012 merc amg Using your logic I've had ~2000 HP this year alone - I went from my Silverado to a Nissan GT-R to a Ford Raptor while waiting on a C63 order, only for it to arrive 6 months later with the wrong options. Found the E36S wagon and I don't think I could have picked a better vehicle for my personal driving style and time of life.

It's a wagon.
It's sublime to those "in the know" and "a station wagon" to everyone else.
Those burbles.
Those pops.
Those bangs.
It's a station wagon.
My 2 year old going "Vroom!" when I start the car.
AWD insanity.
Sexy AF.
It's a wagon.
... and I could go on with more vagaries that all just say "I freakin' love this thing."

Would I like it quieter on the inside? Absolutely, but not when I hit the throttle.
Do the three random rattles in the interior drive me bat**** that no one else hears? Yup.
Does the stereo disappoint, primarily due to a crappy DSP? Yup.
There are many other nits I could pick about it as well, but they come far far from outweighing the SPG ("Smiles Per Gallon").

... but I consider myself a driver and I bought this car *FOR* the pops and bangs, for the AWD insanity, for the HP/torque craziness... oh, and I can put my family in it which is a bonus.

I've had more than a fair share of Camaro, Firebird, BMW M, Corvette. I've had SUVs, sedans, coupes, convertibles and trucks, etc while having "the big ones" like McLaren/Lamborghini/etc. in my "wish list"; but if you were to offer me one of those right now over this wagon, I'd turn you down. In fact, I can't think of any other vehicle I'd choose now.

For most of my sportier vehicles, I always disliked the attention they pulled in from others and it always felt awkward when someone would say "nice car" or "must be nice" about one of them.

Awkward is gone now, since I just drive a station wagon, albeit the most badass station wagon, that simply passes under the radar to most people.

In short, my 2019 E63S AMG is the best vehicle I've owned out of 25+ vehicles over the years and I intend to keep driving the heck out of it, hopefully for years to come.

-j

 

Has any of you tried comparing the sedan vs Wagon? I mean I read all this hashness and I think its really not that bad. Then again I have the Sedan, so I dont know what the deal is. Its ok in comfort and on highway its ok in sport majority of the time. Even Sports+ on an interstate. If the road is rough I kick it back to comfort. But I had a C63S and the thing was terrible IMO in the suspension department. All season tires made it livable, but Just...

 

One thing to remind everybody of are the tire pressures. The correct range is on the fuel filler door. Most dealers default to the highest one, for max load and speed. More reasonable pressures can help a lot as do better tires than the Pirellis.

 

The Michelins are like rocks at (max load) pressures of 50+ which is what dealerships/VPC inflate to, at the normal load pressures on the filler cap, it's a different world.

 

I have a 2019 E53, similar but not the same, but it it vault-like in its solidity. No squeaks or rattles even with the "harsh" ride, and yes its firmness does take some getting used to.
I am going to try dropping the tyre pressures a bit, as I have complained quite a bit about the stone-like qualities of the P Zero run-flats.
The car, however, feels like it has been chiselled from a solid block of aluminum. A lot like my LS 460 in that respect.

 

E43 is a very poor compromise, but an E53 is a fantastic one.
I did not want a track car or autobahn missle I wanted something for daily driving that could step up when asked. For me the E53 is ideal. I have a 2019 rubellite/white cabrio that can do the beach or the autobahn or the worlds largest ball of string.

 

I've been putting some miles on my 2020 E63S Wagon and this car is amazing. Great daily driver IMO. I've been going back and forth between it and my X5M which is end of lease and I'm about to turn in. I think the E63 is more comfortable and a better daily driver so I don't really understand the comments. I think it's kind of silly to call the E63 a track car.

 

Bingo!
Exactly the reason I bought one. I guess I'm too old for a track car, but wanted a daily driver that could, as you put it, "step up when asked". I have asked and it did. Also there was something about the new powertrain that appealed to me. The integration of an electric element to it - the mild hybrid as they call it in some magazines
seems to be the wave of the future. It retains a meaty internal combustion engine, i.e. more than 4 cylinders. Not quite ready for the 4 cylinder wave of the future. It blows my mind that the new AMG 4 cylinder starts out life at +400 horsepower. I can't believe that will ever sound as good as an 8 or 6 cylinder engine. Ofcourse, that may just be my age talkin' :-)

 

Perhaps a track-capable car?

 

My second e63s wagon as my daily driver. It can pick up 2 sets of race tires , bring my kids and buddies football equipment or take it out for a blast and beat up on my buddies porches and lambos .

Damn I hate a car that can do it all

 

Haha, I feel that way exactly!

 

Been researching this wagon quite a long time now for purchase of daily driver, and this post is literally the first negative I've heard.

Although, I've heard many people complain of harsh ride. Of course, this is all relative. I like a firm ride but not too rough for a daily.
I'm torn between optional AMG seats and standard comfort seats. I don't need race seats in a wagon. Are the standard seats a lot more comfortable? They certainly look it. Also, is ingress/egress a lot more cumbersome due to higher bolsters? (Thinking along the lines of 18-way Porsche seats versus buckets.) Thanks!

 

I took delivery of my E63 amg s in January 2019, and I already put 16,500 miles on in 11 months. This car is just simple amazing, I have done 4 track days and did 5 rallies in it and it just blows me away everytime.
Put down decent lap times at a few different tracks and it easily keeps up with the super and hyper cars that I Rally with normally. Can not wait to see what it is like with downpipes and a decent tune. I am really happy with how this car turned out. I think AMG did a great job with it, my biggest regret with my car is my own damn fault and it is not ordering carbon ceramic brakes.

 

everyone will have different preference due to the body shape and height. You just have to test them out at the dealership to see what works for you.