CPO W213 E63s Purchase Beware
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CPO W213 E63s Purchase Beware
Buyers Beware:
I was helping α friend shop for α 2018 W213 E63s with CCB and came αcrossed 3 that fitted his needs, but found out they were all flawed and wanted to share with people who is also looking:
1: Rear collision accident report ( listed price much higher to comparable E63s without accident report ):
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/used...ZF8KB3JA219331
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/auto...MAA4ADYAOQA%3d
2: Lemon buyback report ( listed price much higher to comparable E63s without lemon buyback report ):
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/used...ZF8KB2JA265989
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/auto...MAA4ADYAOQA%3d
3: 2018 with 45k miles, had 11 dealer replaced tires and both rear CCB rotors and pads replaced at 23k miles which shows this E63s was tracked extensively. I have seen the VMI report and have confirmed the service history of this E63s
https://www.mbescondido.com/inventor...zf8kb2ja439625
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=SHR_3
Be warned! Good luck!
I was helping α friend shop for α 2018 W213 E63s with CCB and came αcrossed 3 that fitted his needs, but found out they were all flawed and wanted to share with people who is also looking:
1: Rear collision accident report ( listed price much higher to comparable E63s without accident report ):
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/used...ZF8KB3JA219331
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/auto...MAA4ADYAOQA%3d
2: Lemon buyback report ( listed price much higher to comparable E63s without lemon buyback report ):
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/used...ZF8KB2JA265989
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/auto...MAA4ADYAOQA%3d
3: 2018 with 45k miles, had 11 dealer replaced tires and both rear CCB rotors and pads replaced at 23k miles which shows this E63s was tracked extensively. I have seen the VMI report and have confirmed the service history of this E63s
https://www.mbescondido.com/inventor...zf8kb2ja439625
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=SHR_3
Be warned! Good luck!
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IMO, I think allot of CPO buyers think a authorize Mercedes dealer will not CPO or sell a use vehicle that is a lemon or has a accident reported on them.
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Regarding accidents, I think even by law, the dealers don't have to disclose any thing as long as they don't re-spray or the car doesn't have more than 2 panels resprayed. However, bumpers are not considered panels though so the car might have had a front end damage with front bumper/hood and the fender re-sprayed or the rear bumper, quarter panel and the rear door re-sprayed and still not disclosed to the customer.
Heck, with these long distance purchases, it's ever so easy to sell these compromised cars with not much recourse.
Buyers be aware of all dealers especially the fancy ones who display all the fancy cars. The fancier the inventory, the bigger the scam could be
Heck, with these long distance purchases, it's ever so easy to sell these compromised cars with not much recourse.
Buyers be aware of all dealers especially the fancy ones who display all the fancy cars. The fancier the inventory, the bigger the scam could be
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According to Steve Lehto, a lemon law attorney in Michigan, CPO cars are simply cars that are certified as used. A guarantee that you're not buying a new car.
So many cases of dealers not really doing the checks they claim they are and not standing by cars. Really a buyer beware market where you're better served having the car inspected by a reputable mechanic first before signing on the dotted line.
So many cases of dealers not really doing the checks they claim they are and not standing by cars. Really a buyer beware market where you're better served having the car inspected by a reputable mechanic first before signing on the dotted line.
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MY17 S63AMG - MBUSA Buyback. MY16 SL63 - Sold MY19 W213 E63s. 2020 W213 E63s Wagon
I believe dealers are simply thieves. Does anyone actually believe you would get market value for a trade in if the trade in had a accident/damage report on it? Same thing if they bought the car through auctions and had a damaged report, why wouldn’t it be the law for dealers to disclose that to the customers?
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CPO is subjective based on the dealer or persons doing the inspection. It's not as if MBUSA actually has their own persons conducting these certifications. Standards are supposed to be met but no guarantee they are, the only guarantee is that it's used.
These high performance 63 engines are risky second hand, often driven hard and people that are leasing these they could care less. I'd never go second hand on an AMG. New only.
These high performance 63 engines are risky second hand, often driven hard and people that are leasing these they could care less. I'd never go second hand on an AMG. New only.
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Oh boy you've made me worry now.
Bought my first e63 wagon CPO (2018 model, 38k miles).
Also got an extended warranty.
I love the 2018 look vs. the 2021.
No troubles with it so far - in fact nothing but awesome fun.
I bought out of state, had it reviewed by a out of state mechanic, also had it to my local dealer when it arrived to tweak a couple things, all good.
I should probably have it triple checked by a really good local independent guy though.
Anyone got recommendations in NYC area?
Bought my first e63 wagon CPO (2018 model, 38k miles).
Also got an extended warranty.
I love the 2018 look vs. the 2021.
No troubles with it so far - in fact nothing but awesome fun.
I bought out of state, had it reviewed by a out of state mechanic, also had it to my local dealer when it arrived to tweak a couple things, all good.
I should probably have it triple checked by a really good local independent guy though.
Anyone got recommendations in NYC area?
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Oh boy you've made me worry now.
Bought my first e63 wagon CPO (2018 model, 38k miles).
Also got an extended warranty.
I love the 2018 look vs. the 2021.
No troubles with it so far - in fact nothing but awesome fun.
I bought out of state, had it reviewed by a out of state mechanic, also had it to my local dealer when it arrived to tweak a couple things, all good.
I should probably have it triple checked by a really good local independent guy though.
Anyone got recommendations in NYC area?
Bought my first e63 wagon CPO (2018 model, 38k miles).
Also got an extended warranty.
I love the 2018 look vs. the 2021.
No troubles with it so far - in fact nothing but awesome fun.
I bought out of state, had it reviewed by a out of state mechanic, also had it to my local dealer when it arrived to tweak a couple things, all good.
I should probably have it triple checked by a really good local independent guy though.
Anyone got recommendations in NYC area?
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I got my ‘18 E63 wagon as a CPO and foolishly thought the dealer selling it would have some integrity. But no, they didn’t have any integrity at all. They ignored a ton of stuff and claimed “everything was fine on their sheet”. Car actually had damage to the carbon skirts, bends in the wheels, and some other things. Fortunately I was able to get insurance to pay for it but I’m slightly concerned it’s going to appear on the carfax eventually.
the only point of the CPO is that it adds another year of warranty. So for that, it’s still useful.
the only point of the CPO is that it adds another year of warranty. So for that, it’s still useful.
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The horses are now in the barn, 2019 E63s
2: Lemon buyback report ( listed price much higher to comparable E63s without lemon buyback report ):
Regarding Hoffman Estates, I had a signed purchase agreement and they sold the car (2020 E63) to someone else. Had asked several times for wiring instructions and they never provided it. It was easier to sell to someone local using MBFS. I'd never recommend them, too much like street hustlers and not MB Sales Associates. Terrible experience.
https://www.mercedeshoffman.com/used-Hoffman+Estates-2018-Mercedes+Benz+AMG-+-E+63+S++4MATIC-WDDZF8KB2JA265989
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2: Lemon buyback report ( listed price much higher to comparable E63s without lemon buyback report ):
Regarding Hoffman Estates, I had a signed purchase agreement and they sold the car (2020 E63) to someone else. Had asked several times for wiring instructions and they never provided it. It was easier to sell to someone local using MBFS. I'd never recommend them, too much like street hustlers and not MB Sales Associates. Terrible experience.
Regarding Hoffman Estates, I had a signed purchase agreement and they sold the car (2020 E63) to someone else. Had asked several times for wiring instructions and they never provided it. It was easier to sell to someone local using MBFS. I'd never recommend them, too much like street hustlers and not MB Sales Associates. Terrible experience.
Does anyone know the amount of the kickback (I'm sorry meant commission) that the dealer receives on the financing/leasing?
Is there a difference on the kickback percentage on a purchase vs. a lease?
When I bought mine, a couple of years ago, after having negotiated the price - they kept asking about which financing option I desired. I replied by asking them for their wiring instructions. They looked absolutely crestfallen!
Like I had kicked their dog or something. I assumed that they would be pleased - no muss, no fuss. Done deal. I was quite surprised by their reaction.
oh well...
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The CPO did literally nothing other than extend the factory warranty. CPO is only as good as the dealership that does it, if they fail to do something and then refuse to take responsibility for it, that's between you and the dealership. Mercedes corporate doesn't care.
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The CPO did literally nothing other than extend the factory warranty. CPO is only as good as the dealership that does it, if they fail to do something and then refuse to take responsibility for it, that's between you and the dealership. Mercedes corporate doesn't care.
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It won't be a bad idea buying a CPO vehicle if one knows what to look for. If I was buying a certified vehicle, I'd ask for any oil leaks, paint meter reading, brake measurements and tire tread depth. These are the areas where they try to stick the customers with. Anything significant more than likely be covered by the certification process.
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Does anyone know the amount of the kickback (I'm sorry meant commission) that the dealer receives on the financing/leasing?
Is there a difference on the kickback percentage on a purchase vs. a lease?
When I bought mine, a couple of years ago, after having negotiated the price - they kept asking about which financing option I desired. I replied by asking them for their wiring instructions. They looked absolutely crestfallen!
Like I had kicked their dog or something. I assumed that they would be pleased - no muss, no fuss. Done deal. I was quite surprised by their reaction.
oh well...
The stealer gets credited the same for the sale of a vehicle weather its a cash purchase, lease or finance.
