ALL 2022 e/gt 63 orders have been converted to 53 variants... hurrah.. ugh

 

incorrect, all changed to 53's

 

Any word on C63 orders?

 

I drove my son in-laws RS7 last week and it is very tame compared to my E63S. Felt like a S7 with a larger engine. Very smooth and comfortable, E63S feels more engaging and on the edge. I'm not nuts about the look, maybe because I'm on the older side I guess. A bit to much in your face for me with the width and 22's.

 

no sedans for 2022 (awating the new 4cylinder versions for 2023)... for coupes we have two incoming 2022's (available) expecting them to be built in Sept..Oct/Nov release (amg's always get held up)... last of the v8 rwd c63's sadly !!! lol

 

@susman@eurogermantown.com Delayed until further notice, do you think they will open the order books up later this year or do you think the E63s are a complete no-go for 2022?

 

Yes I’m wondering the same, and also do you happen to have any idea why they’re doing this? I find it curious that the delay is limited to the GT’s and E’s while other AMG V8’s are still a go. Could it be that these will be the debut models for the new hybrid-V8 “73” powertrain??

 

The other AMG V8's are in the trucks and they count differently towards emissions and fuel economy targets.

 

Just curious since they held the cars previously due to emissions compliance/certification at the port. I am wondering if this is something similar or a full stop until the hybrids come out.

 

What about the C63 and various S-class V8’s? Shahul just pointed out that the MY2022 C63’s will be the last C-V8, but they’re 2022’s nonetheless.

 

I’ll be surprised if the E gets the 73 being in its final 2 years of production for this generation.

 

S Class uses the hybrid V8. If it really is an emissions issue the C 63 Coupe could be on the chopping block as well.

 

MB already announced that all future AMG C-class will be 4cyl hybrid

 

Not too sure but I think I read somewhere that the C205 C63 will stay for one extra model year compared to the sedan (most likely due to the fact the c coupe is discontinuing for 206 gen). So grab them while you can : )

 

Yeah dealers have order allocations for MY22 C63S Coupes (and Cabs maybe?). But tough to know for certain that they'll be built given what happened with the E63/GT63. I've got an order for one with production date as September 1st decade and am gonna be praying every day till I see the build has actually started lol.

 

I see good luck with your order and for sure, hopefully nothing continues to get cancelled.

 

I have a 2022 Dealer Ordering Guide that one dealer sent me and it clearly shows the 2022 C63s with a V8. Not saying that hasn't changed, but at least
originally that is what was planned. MB needs to get off this cancel culture crap, I want my V8!!

 

Was it a coupe or convertible ordering guide? I don't think the W205 C63s sedan is getting another model year unlike the other two body styles but I would love to be wrong on this one!

 

It is the coupe guide.

 

I see... yup the coupe gets an extra model year compared to the sedan.

 

My sales guy (thanks Patrick) secured a ‘21 sedan that just arrived at Long Bech VPC. All three of their orders for ‘22 changed to E53 (and this is a big dealer, owners sons order was changed to E53).

Moving from my standard black to Selenite Grey Magno, my 18 year old says I’ll love it (if not he will).

Only 67 ‘21 sedans available in US per Patrick so had to move quickly. He really stepped up to make it happen.

 

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Yeh that was a nice build. At this point we’ll have to get lucky. I’ll keep on the lookout (I’m used to this with Porsche, been doing it for years) and report back with anything interesting.

I haven’t had a car without ceramics in a long time but we’re probably making a bigger deal than it really is for this wagon. The weight is the biggest factor in my mind, followed by no brake dust (Oh and looks lol. But even on the larger ceramics, the rear brakes on the AMG looked awkwardly small. Also, the sizes of the rotors are roughly the same between steels and ceramics. I actually prefer the reds (without the obnoxious “CARBON CERAMIC” labeling). The wagon is already so big and heavy so I’m not sure it’ll make a noticeable difference in handling. Stopping power is probably quite similar under normal street usage. I hope as the ceramics on my 2021 felt incredible. The pedal feel and stopping power were equally amazing. Also, for a daily driver the steels are better in at least two ways… they perform well when wet and/or cold. The ceramics take a while to adopt to these conditions (especially cold temps) and can be unsafe at times, especially in the winter months if you live in a cold climate. Also, ceramic rotors can be destroyed when chipped. I’m in CT and the roads are a mess in the winter. Salt and rocks generously applied to the roads all winter. Was very worried about the ceramics lasting though a few winters.

I am a wheel nut. I typically have 3-4 sets in my garage at all times as I like to change the look every couple months. As long as my wheels are clean I really don’t care how dirty the car is, haha. Now to brake dust. Upon delivery just take your wheels off and meticulously apply a ceramic coating. I like to do this myself because I know few people will do such a good job. I apply two coatings. With the proper prep, brake dust should just wash away as long as you don’t let it go more than a few weeks per cleanings. Think about all the years you’ve driven cars without ceramic brakes. Don’t hold out for the ‘perfect’ build. If one comes along you can always sell/buy. Good luck on your search!

 

You hit the nail on the head. The Audi is less of a sleeper and far less elegant. It’s quite aggressive. And a large part of the allure to these things is the very under the radar nature of them. (This is how I messed up my first build by going to aggressive when I should’ve went more elegant to go better with the ethos of this wagon.) Mercedes makes the best wagons, has been for decades IMO. For me it’s hard to consider another.

Believe it or not, the size of the RS6 Avant and the E63 wagon are nearly identical. To me the Mercedes looks much larger. Who knows. I’m in the minority and preferred the pre-facelift front-end as it seemed cleaner and more classic (less agressive). One thing that I didn’t like about my 2021 wagon is that it felt really large to drive relative to my wife’s 2013 E350 wagon. The front-end feels really big… like SUV big. Felt hard to see over the hood. Now I know I’ll get used to this over time. The E63 could really benefit from all-wheel steering, and I’m surprised MB hasn’t already adopted this glorious technology.

Other than the giant 22” wheels and rear diffuser, I really love the look of the Audi. Inside and out. My first step would be to replace the obnoxious 22s with more modest 21” BBS or maybe some HREs. The Audi looks amazing in every single color. Also, I prefer the understated interior of the Audi and love the cognac leather.

Can’t really comment on depreciation as I’m used to losing a lot of money on most all cars (well, except Porsche GT cars maybe).

 

No, but I will. I know the Audi won’t drive as well. Hard to believe though with better brakes and all-wheel steering. Sad they tuned the character out of the car.