HI all,

i have a w213 2017 Mercedes E63s,

Over the past few days I have felt there is a little knocking and jolting in the engine through the drivers seat upon cold start up.

To further limit any damage, i took it to get scanned to make sure there was nothing serious and 2 faults came up.

1 - P002477 The positioning of the EXHAUST camshaft (cylinder bank 2) deviates from the specific value. The commanded position cannot be reached

2 - P002177 The positioning of the INTAKE camshaft (cylinder bank 2) deviates from the specific value. The commanded position cannot be reached

The car has been ECU tuned to stage 1 by evolve tecnik

Just want know if anybody can shed some light on this for me as I was told by the MB tech he thinks that the reason as to why the adjustments are different from Factory spec is the tune.

Im a little confused as if so should it not be both banks not just the 1?

Thanks in advance

 

I have same problem as you and my car is tuned

my tuner told me it shouldn’t happen
Did you figure out the problem ?

thanks

 

Any luck on this? Experiencing the same thing on stock car…

 

I have the same problem on my e63S (Stock), .

I Did run a diagnostic tool MyCarly,

 

i did the same with carly stock car and got the same message…

 

Just looked at a stock untuned 2018 e63 same 2 codes stored in history. Ran great no issues or current light is this something to worry about ? Anyone find a solution?

 

Why is nobody taking their 100k car to the dealer for this potentially catastrophic issue? Don’t run a car with cam issues that you can’t diagnose properly.

mb icarsoft and Icarly are not for these cars imo…very limited data.

 

Yeah true. I guess this a common thing apparently. Wish I could find out the issue. Have a deposit on the car pending whatever it is. If major I'm going to walk. Limited data scanned it with an carsoft ii

 

Does it throw a check engine light?

 

no not in my case

 

Same with this one. No light. Found only by scanning.

 

Guys How did your case end up?

 

im getting the same issue but just on the intake for both banks. Im currently replacing the crank sensor and all position sensors. Magnet adjusters have been replaced also. not sure if you guys have an actual cel like I am but this issue is an intermittent problem that I think its just a bad sensor issue. performance isnt affected but i do get some long 2-4 second cranking sometimes. also auto start/stop is disabled immediately.

W205 c63s 130k miles btw.

 

Hello, were you able to solve this problem? I have my E63S and I get the two fault codes just like you do. Let's see if you can tell me something. thank you

 

I didn't purchase the car after finding this code & some other red flags . I did however invest some time into this code researching.. spoke to quite a few mb techs etc. Most of them were leaning towards a camshaft gear issue . Never really came up with anything concrete stating it's definately x or y part that causes this issue .

 

Thank you very much

 

Reviving this thread, has anyone figured this out? Having the same issue at the moment, P002477 stored, no CEL.

 

You folks made me paranoid, so I checked mine.
Yup, same two codes stored:
P002477 The positioning of the EXHAUST camshaft (cylinder bank 2) deviates from the specific value. The commanded position cannot be reached
P002177 The positioning of the INTAKE camshaft (cylinder bank 2) deviates from the specific value. The commanded position cannot be reached

2019 E63S with 50k miles. It regularly has 3 or 4 second cranking on cold start, but otherwise it's strong like a bull.

 

4 second cold start seems too long for it to be happening regularly

 

Right. Clearly I have a poor sense of time. It’s about half that, as checked this morning. I can’t edit my post though.

 

Would start by using Xentry to read the codes and run the tests they have for the cams. Then doing the physical basic timing check by setting the crank to 53 degree mark (if i remember correctly), removing the 4 cams sensors on the top valve cover, looking thru the hole to make sure the cam wheel mark is half moon in the center. Easy checkups, without digging into the motor.