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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
What are the chances they do this with the next E63?
"The 2023 Mercedes-AMG S 63 E Performance Has More Torque Than a Diesel Ford Super Duty
A twin-turbo V8 and a plug-in hybrid drivetrain give the AMG-tuned S-Class 710 hp and a whopping 1,055 lb-ft of torque."

https://jalopnik.com/2023-mercedes-a...ntent=jalopnik
Nil. The V8 hybrids will only be top tier vehicles like the S and the GT. However, you could always roll the dice and give up your current build slot.
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 07:46 PM
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Haha no more 'rolling the dice' for me, Harris!
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 07:48 PM
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I was just perusing BMW's website... can't believe how repulsive they've made the 7-Series. BMW is totally ruining its brand and heritage. Makes me very sad.

Sharp contrast, Mercedes is doing a great job with design.



I'll take mine with silver on black. Grille is a bit of an abortion but I can overlook it. Still can't center camera. That mess on the left side of grille is for L3 autonomous driving so I'd definitely skip that option.

Really missing the old grille designs. Not feeling these panamericana grilles.

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Old Dec 9, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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Cross post update - dealer says production is going well past January and not to worry about waiting for the parts for an ideal spec: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8682762
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Old Dec 9, 2022 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Cross post update - dealer says production is going well past January and not to worry about waiting for the parts for an ideal spec: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8682762
I wish you well on your wait. The only contract to build your car is the paper that documents your PO number. Anything else is a wishful desire. What is the risk to the dealer staff if they are wrong?
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 02:13 PM
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Does anybody know when they'll end the S213 production? Aka, how much longer do we have before there is no hope?
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Old Dec 14, 2022 | 10:28 PM
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900hp & 200+mph is...

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Was that an E-Wagon that got smoked at the 1:54 minute mark @163mph after disrespecting said 992 Turbo S Protagonist?
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I was just perusing BMW's website... can't believe how repulsive they've made the 7-Series. BMW is totally ruining its brand and heritage. Makes me very sad.
However, the reviews and first test drives of the new C63s that came out yesterday are almost universally mediocre....800lb battery and fancy "F1 tech" that does nothing worthy.

The few reviews of the V8 performance hybrid weren't really all that positive either.

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Old Dec 15, 2022 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
One of my favorite reviews of the E63S wagon. Yes, I've likely watched them all. https://youtu.be/sbFJZJWuIOw

Nailed it.
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Old Dec 15, 2022 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
I was just perusing BMW's website... can't believe how repulsive they've made the 7-Series. BMW is totally ruining its brand and heritage. Makes me very sad.
Originally Posted by taphil
However, the reviews and first test drives of the new C63s that came out yesterday are almost universally mediocre....800lb battery and fancy "F1 tech" that does nothing worthy.

The few reviews of the V8 performance hybrid weren't really all that positive either.
Agree to both. Meanwhile, Audi introduced the new and improved 2024 RS6 in the last couple weeks...more power; slightly less weight. They are ready to scoop up E63 customers...
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 11:37 AM
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Even with all its flaws, I can't wait to get my wagon back! Still a go for January build. Let's see what happens. Don't really believe anything anyone says at this point. Car bubble finally showing signs of popping but very early stages, plus still contending with supply chain issues.

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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 05:56 PM
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Very strange how the E63 still is not listed on any MB configurator, except Germany.
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Very strange how the E63 still is not listed on any MB configurator, except Germany.
and UAE
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Old Dec 16, 2022 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Very strange how the E63 still is not listed on any MB configurator, except Germany.
It's probably because there are no more to configure!
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Old Dec 17, 2022 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Very strange how the E63 still is not listed on any MB configurator, except Germany.
Originally Posted by HBerman
It's probably because there are no more to configure!
The E63 was still available in Germany for 2022. I don’t know about the German site, but the US site is still showing 2022 models, which obviously did not include the E63.

The ‘Final Edition’ is still coming, so allocations are not done yet…
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Old Dec 17, 2022 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
The E63 was still available in Germany for 2022. I don’t know about the German site, but the US site is still showing 2022 models, which obviously did not include the E63.

The ‘Final Edition’ is still coming, so allocations are not done yet…
But..., the Final Editions for the US are not configurable AFAIK. Only in Germany (and for Canada since they mirror the German storefront model) can you configure the Final Edition as an OPTION with other configurable items.

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There's a chance that vast majority of cars coming to the US will be Final Editions. Sad farewell.
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
There's a chance that vast majority of cars coming to the US will be Final Editions. Sad farewell.
I believe that your assumption will be proven correct. I'm glad that I purchased my 2021 E63S wagon when I did. There's no way to duplicate its full suite of installed options since some of them have been removed due to the continued supply chain problems. One more month for your wagon to be produced.
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Fingers crossed Harris. Hope you're still enjoying your beautiful, finely spec'd wagon. How's winter going so far? Mild as usual, right? Happy Holidays.
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Old Dec 17, 2022 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Fingers crossed Harris. Hope you're still enjoying your beautiful, finely spec'd wagon. How's winter going so far? Mild as usual, right? Happy Holidays.
Anthony, I also wish you and yours a blessed holiday season. The temps have gone down to freezing, but there's a 2% chance of snow for this Christmas more likely a cold rain. If I was able to spec my wagon again, I would have chosen the 029 Silver metallic paint as a custom color instead of the Graphite Gray. The closest thing to Silver Metallic was Selenite Grey, but I had several cars in that color and I found it boring. I would still have that same interior (Black/Silver), but if MB had offered a dark chocolate trim, I would have chosen that instead. I just had my Service B performed this week (good that I had prepaid maintenance as the base charge would have been $997 according to the work order estimate). The Tech also applied an update to the ECU AFAIK which has greatly reduced the cold jerkiness in Comfort mode. Of course, it could just be my imagination at work too.
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Originally Posted by HBerman
But..., the Final Editions for the US are not configurable AFAIK. Only in Germany (and for Canada since they mirror the German storefront model) can you configure the Final Edition as an OPTION with other configurable items.
Nobody knows about US-spec cars yet.
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Nobody knows about US-spec cars yet.
I believe that MBUSA sent out a letter to the US dealers concerning the Final Editions. I'll see if I can find it.
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Not sure if it’s been said before but only 12 Final Editions are coming to Canada either wagon or sedan. Looks like lots will be configurable models just not FE. Also from what I’ve been told the FE is NOT ORDERABLE. Whatever that means.
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That means dealers will get them straight from mb canada distribution list that could be based on past Amg sales volumes. So, only a few lucky dealers will get those ones.

if 12 copies are coming, I would imagine only Ontario, BC and Quebec will have them.

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