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Old 02-16-2024, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooding Sonata
Question: should my 2023 E63S estate have the augmented reality view in the satnav? It doesn't appear to, and the reading I've done suggests it should be standard but I can't confirm it. Would be good to know whether it's an error that it's not there before I go speaking to Mercedes.
I have the 2023 Sedan version (please forgive me), Canadian, and it comes with AR. There is an option to enable/disable it, so I'd check if maybe it'd disabled for you. Navigation > Settings > Advanced > Augmented Reality. Of course, I suppose it depends if you have AR at all, but just in case, check there.
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Old 02-16-2024, 12:41 PM
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Try typing in your VIN here and look for U19 Augmented reality video:
https://mb.vin/

(P.S. I never click "submit" or any links on that page. All clicks seems to go to click bait and paid vin research sites and I get lost in SPAM. Just look for and first click the "I am not a robot" checkbox, then click in the VIN typing box, type in the VIN and press [enter])

And what bobblehead said - some cars just didn't get it due to chip shortages. If your VIN doesn't list U19 you don't have it.
I checked the VIN and U19 is not there. I understand from comments here that technically it should be. What should I be saying to Mercedes about this? Can they add it after the fact? And if not should they offer something in mitigation?

Also need to talk to them about the foot-activated tailgate not really working, but that's another story.
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Originally Posted by Brooding Sonata
I checked the VIN and U19 is not there. I understand from comments here that technically it should be. What should I be saying to Mercedes about this? Can they add it after the fact? And if not should they offer something in mitigation?

Also need to talk to them about the foot-activated tailgate not really working, but that's another story.
ask dealer to show you their build screen of your VIN # or UK factory brochure showing the standard equipment on file
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
ask dealer to show you their build screen of your VIN # or UK factory brochure showing the standard equipment on file
I agree with @bobblehead , I did this when waiting for mine to ship overseas.

It turned out that mb.vin was accurate, at least in my experience, but yes, definitely ask the dealer for your build sheet. If they don't understand and want to print you out or e-mail you the pricing sheet with the marketing names of features, etc, tell them no, you want them to give you a copy of the build sheet with build codes etc. The salesman may or may not understand, so you might have to ask a manager (this is what I had to do.)
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OK, and once that's done and it's established that it's missing, what is reasonable to expect Mercedes to do?
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OK, and once that's done and it's established that it's missing, what is reasonable to expect Mercedes to do?
Get mb uk to refund you. I would think it should be worth around 1000-1500 ?? British pounds may be the minimum.

If mb uk offers you very little refund, then tell them to install the missing equipment, i am sure they will rethink their low ball offer as it will likely cost them a lot of resources to get it done.

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w213/826629-u19-option-installed-factory-but-no-augmented-reality.html

also … read this past thread on the same subject matter

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I am seeing some aftermarket shop in your region (UK) may be able to provide the augmented reality hardware/software for 900 British pounds. Of course, it is not oem equipment and does not include labor cost.

https://rjautomotive.net/products/augmented-reality-camera-retrofit

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https://www.mercedes-benz-countryhil...orgUnitId=1793

If anyone in Canada is looking for a deal on the leftovers 23 E63S wagon ... MSRP $172,380 + $18,320 in lux tax and fees - $18,000 discount. Leasing for 4 yrs residual is 36%. Pretty ugly.
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
https://www.mercedes-benz-countryhil...orgUnitId=1793

If anyone in Canada is looking for a deal on the leftovers 23 E63S wagon ... MSRP $172,380 + $18,320 in lux tax and fees - $18,000 discount. Leasing for 4 yrs residual is 36%. Pretty ugly.
And I was experiencing FOMO.
Would have loved someone to pick up the lux tax!!
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I am eager to see one. Wonder what kinds of crazy $ they will ask for.
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I'd be more excited if it wasn't a plug in hybrid and weighed under 5000 lbs.
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I'd be more excited if it wasn't a plug in hybrid and weighed under 5000 lbs.
It’s heavy, complicated, likely expensive and like pretty much all other BMW products, ghastly to look at.
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Just paid California use tax and registration on a low-miles 2018 E63 S Wagon brought in from out-of-state. The tax? A touch over $10K. It's just ridiculous in a "make me physically ill" sort of way. California has to horn in on my once-in-a-lifetime dream car, because.... why exactly?
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Originally Posted by SerottaD
Just paid California use tax and registration on a low-miles 2018 E63 S Wagon brought in from out-of-state. The tax? A touch over $10K. It's just ridiculous in a "make me physically ill" sort of way. California has to horn in on my once-in-a-lifetime dream car, because.... why exactly?
Because they can. I live in North Carolina and we have a highway use tax as well. My 2021 E63s sedan was $6,000.00 to register when new. I thought that was terrible, and, it was. However, your deal is outright insane.
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Because they can. I live in North Carolina and we have a highway use tax as well. My 2021 E63s sedan was $6,000.00 to register when new. I thought that was terrible, and, it was. However, your deal is outright insane.
One wrinkle in the NC Highway use tax if you lease a car in NC, the tax is assessed only for the lease payment. You will never pay the full amount. One of the reasons that I never purchase a car in NC.
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One wrinkle in the NC Highway use tax if you lease a car in NC, the tax is assessed only for the lease payment. You will never pay the full amount. One of the reasons that I never purchase a car in NC.
Good point Harris. I've never leased a car and was unaware of that. We have always purchased since living in NC.
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Originally Posted by SerottaD
Just paid California use tax and registration on a low-miles 2018 E63 S Wagon brought in from out-of-state. The tax? A touch over $10K. It's just ridiculous in a "make me physically ill" sort of way. California has to horn in on my once-in-a-lifetime dream car, because.... why exactly?
Sales taxes apply to just about every state. If you don't want to pay them your options are to move to Montana, Alaska, Delaware, Oregon, or New Hampshire. Taxes suck but they're a fact of life.
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Just did a quick scan for the leftovers 2023 E63S wagon inventories in Canada ... there are still 11 of them sitting at dealers lots and they are showing min. $15,000 Cdn discount off right now.
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Originally Posted by TugboatBill
Sales taxes apply to just about every state. If you don't want to pay them your options are to move to Montana, Alaska, Delaware, Oregon, or New Hampshire. Taxes suck but they're a fact of life.
You are right and even the states that don't outright impose a straight sales tax usually find a way to, so you still have to be careful there.

New Hampshire is one I'm familiar with and they don't impose a direct sales tax but the yearly registration cost is based on a variable dollar amount per thousand of the MSRP and the age of the vehicle. The variable dollar amount per thousand of the MSRP lessens over time but it's always based upon the original MSRP of the car.

As an example of purchasing a new $90K car in New Hampshire, your first year registration would be $1,620. Year two would be $1,350, and so on. So they still get the "tax".


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Just did a quick scan for the leftovers 2023 E63S wagon inventories in Canada ... there are still 11 of them sitting at dealers lots and they are showing min. $15,000 Cdn discount off right now.
what a crazy turn around from last year when you couldn’t even find them
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what a crazy turn around from last year when you couldn’t even find them
at the peak of this absurd market, dealers wanted at least $40,000 Cdn ADM in my region. 😆


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