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Old 04-20-2024, 08:49 PM
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Sorry for the dirty engine bay, it's rainy over here in canada.

Just got dual catch cans installed, hoping to mitigate the OVS failure, fingers crossed...

2018 canadian e63 estate, 88000 km or 55000 bald eagles for my American imperial folks here.

(Still on warranty)
What kit did you get or is this a custom job? Any check engine light yet?
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Got car back
Oil seperator and seal was replaced

Got my back as well.... wish they also would have replaced my oil separators.



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Got my back as well.... wish they also would have replaced my oil separators.

That's such BS. They're hoping the next failure will be past the warranty period.
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Ya its BS,

on a side note anyone know if the oil gets changed during RMS job or do they just put the old oil back in? I like to change every 5-8k instead of 10k so i was wondering if they did already or not.
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New oil
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Originally Posted by frostydc4
What kit did you get or is this a custom job? Any check engine light yet?
It's a pre-production kit by 63motorsports in Canada.

No CEL.
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Interesting, Do you know if they are going to make one of these for an S63. Would love to install this on my 2019. How hard was the install?
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Interesting, Do you know if they are going to make one of these for an S63. Would love to install this on my 2019. How hard was the install?
Had it installed by an authorized dealer from 63motorsports, overall cost me a little under 2k Canadian pesos.
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Old 04-21-2024, 09:29 PM
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Had it installed by an authorized dealer from 63motorsports, overall cost me a little under 2k Canadian pesos.
when do you plan on checking/emptying yours? I am at 500+ kms now
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Originally Posted by graphitegreyamg
when do you plan on checking/emptying yours? I am at 500+ kms now

Every oil change.

I work from home and drive it on weekends mostly, I average 5000km/year and change my oil once a year.

Instead of removing the cans for drainage my dealer told me he could run drainage tubes from the bottom of the cans down the engine bay for easy flush.

I just got the car back from instalation and no CEL, I am going back in 2 weeks to make sure nothing is rubbing where it shouldn't. The instructions provided for installation weren't exactly plug and play, had to custom install & tweak some stuff but overall I'm pretty stoked.

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I wouldnt wait that long…

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New part. #’s

Got a quote to replace my separators. I know you all track the part numbers. I went through the whole thread and noticed the part numbers they gave me are different.

right separator 177-010-88-12
left separator 177-010-87-12

thanks guys

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Got a quote to replace my separators. I know you all track the part numbers. I went through the whole thread and noticed the part numbers they gave me are different.

right separator 177-010-88-12
left separator 177-010-87-12

thanks guys
Yep those are the current parts.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8892440
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thanks, I missed that one.

I know you have a warranty. Did they say how much or how many hours it took em?
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thanks, I missed that one.

I know you have a warranty. Did they say how much or how many hours it took em?
No. Just a bunch of zeroes. OK with me .
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Originally Posted by graphitegreyamg
I wouldnt wait that long…

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Holy hell that's a lot of blow-by for only 1000km.

Do you guys make a lot of short trips & not let the oil temps get above 200f? Water does boil at 212f. I would think idling the motor for a few minutes above 210f would take care of the water & condensation from the blow-by and keep the motor from blowing through the RMS by keeping the engine sludge under control
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Dealer fixed my RMS with out the oil separators and my warranty ends in oct. anyone know how long until it will leak again? hopping it goes again while still in warranty so they actually replace the oil separators this time.
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Originally Posted by Caro
Dealer fixed my RMS with out the oil separators and my warranty ends in oct. anyone know how long until it will leak again? hopping it goes again while still in warranty so they actually replace the oil separators this time.
i suggest to have an inspection just before the warranty is to expire. After that, not much else you can do.
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Dealer fixed my RMS with out the oil separators and my warranty ends in oct. anyone know how long until it will leak again? hopping it goes again while still in warranty so they actually replace the oil separators this time.
A month before end of warranty 😂 plant some oil at the RMS so it drips and drive the car into their service bay. Of course I'm kidding 😉
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A month before end of warranty 😂 plant some oil at the RMS so it drips and drive the car into their service bay. Of course I'm kidding 😉
lol
on my W212 at 159,583 kms I rolled in and they addressed everything and they held the work order open until all the parts came in, because I then rolled well past 160,000 before they actually started any of the work

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Originally Posted by frostydc4


Holy hell that's a lot of blow-by for only 1000km.
Yeah I was getting ready to pull the trigger on this kit but I’d never empty the cans that often. It’d be a mess. I’d rather just roll the dice and let warranty deal with it with that much maintenance. It takes me two weeks to get around to filling a low tire and another week to reset the pressure sensor baselines lol.

Plus to me that seems like a lot of oil. How many miles until it’s needed to add a quart?

Good luck guys I hope you nail it

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on my W212 at 159,583 kms I rolled in and they addressed everything and they held the work order open until all the parts came in, because I then rolled well past 160,000 before they actually started any of the work
That's awesome. sounds like a cool dealership that would actually replace the separators and the RMS together ... not just the RMS ... you'll be fine
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Plus to me that seems like a lot of oil. How many miles until it’s needed to add a quart?
I don't know about the M177 in the E63 but in the manual with my car it states that the motor can go through a quart every 500 - 1000 miles if you drive at high rpm often . YMMV on this one. You get a warning when you are down a quart (telling you to add a quart of oil). I only know because I got the alert after cruising at high rpm one afternoon. I checked the dipstick (using the recommended method in the owners manual) and everything looked fine . The after sitting for 15 - 20 min the warning went away.
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Originally Posted by frostydc4
I don't know about the M177 in the E63 but in the manual with my car it states that the motor can go through a quart every 500 - 1000 miles if you drive at high rpm often . YMMV on this one. You get a warning when you are down a quart (telling you to add a quart of oil). I only know because I got the alert after cruising at high rpm one afternoon. I checked the dipstick (using the recommended method in the owners manual) and everything looked fine . The after sitting for 15 - 20 min the warning went away.
I have owned 8 AMG models and the E63 is the first to burn zero oil. I have never added a quart between services and the oil level doesn't drop over the course of the 10,000 miles between services. I have no idea how they did it, but the engine is magical.
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Originally Posted by frostydc4
I don't know about the M177 in the E63 but in the manual with my car it states that the motor can go through a quart every 500 - 1000 miles if you drive at high rpm often . YMMV on this one. You get a warning when you are down a quart (telling you to add a quart of oil). I only know because I got the alert after cruising at high rpm one afternoon. I checked the dipstick (using the recommended method in the owners manual) and everything looked fine . The after sitting for 15 - 20 min the warning went away.
This is standard German car company BS, same with Porsche. It exonerates car companies from dealing with their inconsistent product quality.

The Porsche EA825 4.0TTV8 burns either no oil or it burns a quart every 2000 miles as reported by users. Similar with AMG. The message is inconsistent product quality, which means they aren't matching or classifying bore, piston and ring tolerances.

The Porsche EA839 2.9TTV6 burns no oil as widely reported by users.


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