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Old May 14, 2023 | 12:14 PM
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Old May 16, 2023 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lminn
I have a non-FE sedan and I have the multibeams, although I'm in Canada so not sure if this information is of any value or not.
Ya that is normal what isn't normal is why the FEs have the standard lights.
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Old May 16, 2023 | 11:01 AM
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I'm curious to know why Mercedes would make such an odd configuration choice as base-model headlights on a "special" ~$175K model version.

I get manufacturers doing things for performance models like radio delete, A/C delete, rear seat delete, etc. for weight savings and performance but base-model headlights just seems nonsensical. WTF.

I feel bad for those that are new to Mercedes and don't know the difference, only to find out after purchase that you spent a ridiculous amount extra for a "super-duper" model that has the headlights found on a base E300.

There has to be some reason... I have no idea what that reason could possibly be.

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Old May 16, 2023 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith66
I'm curious to know why Mercedes would make such an odd configuration choice as base-model headlights on a "special" ~$175K model version.

I get manufacturers doing things for performance models like radio delete, A/C delete, rear seat delete, etc. for weight savings and performance but base-model headlights just seems nonsensical. WTF.

I feel bad for those that are new to Mercedes and don't know the difference, only to find out after purchase that you spent a ridiculous amount extra for a "super-duper" model that has the headlights found on a base E300.

There has to be some reason... I have no idea what that reason could possibly be.
Bean counters, just like the DV8 package in the USA being severely overpriced while in Europe it is not thaaat much more.
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Old May 16, 2023 | 12:44 PM
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^^^There's only a single possible answer: Poor Management
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Old May 16, 2023 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
^^^There's only a single possible answer: Poor Management
Ya cares more about profits than customers apparently : (
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Old May 16, 2023 | 12:59 PM
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Wait a second. The dealer that sold me my GLC63 offered me this exact same car back on 4/21
I'm not 100% certain, but I think all the FE sedans are the exact same.
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Old May 16, 2023 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
^^^There's only a single possible answer: Poor Management
I would believe that it's all a question of marketing decisions, parts availability, regional tradeoffs (the US is not the only market), etc. Of course, there is there is always the off center cameras on the S63 and the E63S.

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Old May 17, 2023 | 12:33 PM
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Maybe it's just a way for them to flush the parts queue and make a few $s at the same time.
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Old May 17, 2023 | 12:36 PM
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The parts bins have birthed many a 'special edition' over the years...damn near a few brands too.
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Old May 17, 2023 | 08:00 PM
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These last few are right on. These options are chosen so the supply can be normalized and all vehicles arrive as ordered. The very easy solution is if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. The parts supplies of every industry are still disrupted so while I too believe that Mercedes has mismanaged lots of their standard production, this type of package is the way to do it to ensure the supply.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 12:43 PM
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Old May 18, 2023 | 12:45 PM
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They look good...Ours just arrived.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 01:49 PM
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Nice pics thanks guys. The black calipers look great with the whole package.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 01:55 PM
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Nice pics thanks guys. The black calipers look great with the whole package.
How long will these sit on the lot? 1 week? 2 Weeks?
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Old May 18, 2023 | 01:55 PM
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Not the best business model in my opinion. Selling poverty spec cars with a king-sized markup. Oh wait... it's special cuz MB sez so.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 02:01 PM
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They look good...Ours just arrived.
Congratulations dude!!!

BTW, I'm digging the paint on that Maybach too.

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Old May 18, 2023 | 09:18 PM
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Congratulations dude!!!

BTW, I'm digging the paint on that Maybach too.
I like the wheel color instead of all black. Much classier than racer boy black.
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Old May 18, 2023 | 11:06 PM
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I gotta say they are nice looking cars for sure.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 07:21 AM
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This makes me wonder how sales are doing for FE sedans & wagons. Are they successfully selling above MSRP? At MSRP? Probably too early to tell if they'll end up selling below MSRP, if ever.
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This makes me wonder how sales are doing for FE sedans & wagons. Are they successfully selling above MSRP? At MSRP? Probably too early to tell if they'll end up selling below MSRP, if ever.
Special and final editions I feel have been a disaster for MB. Dealers are still sitting on Edition 55s at a 38k additional package price and C63 Final Editions with a 36k package price much like the E63 final edition. So basically you're paying a hefty price bump for a less optioned car and buyers know this. No one wants to pay more for a car that has less options other then some extra badges and other trinkets. If the car were truly special and had been spec'd and marketed properly then MB would not be in this predicament right now. I suspect dealers eventually will have to take something off MSRP, offer discount financing and even with that they only have so much room.
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^^^Terribly mismanaged. People should be fired.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 12:22 PM
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After offering me the c63s FE and I turned it down (not impressed over my E,) the dealership sold or traded it to another dealership. They couldn’t get rid of it. That’s according to my salesman.
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Old May 23, 2023 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chewbs
After offering me the c63s FE and I turned it down (not impressed over my E,) the dealership sold or traded it to another dealership. They couldn’t get rid of it. That’s according to my salesman.
I see then it looks like prices of the FE will come down shortly...
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In the US there's roughly 9 FE wagons and 57 sedans available. Suspect some dealers are at MSRP already. Most have yet to hit floor plans.

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