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Old Jun 18, 2023 | 06:52 PM
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I wouldn’t be that disappointed. These AMG cars are marginal, at best. My wagon has been anything but impressive. Just really, another car that was poorly built and not so reliable. I have had the car die in traffic, spit and sputter, not wanting to start. Dealership is awful when it comes to diagnosing the problem. I’ve got zero confidence at this point, both in the car and the dealership. Really a shame when you save enough to buy a “dream car/ unicorn” and it ends up being a POS !!! So, save your money and buy a Cadillac or something else that isn’t a piece of crap like my wagon. Car dealerships are lost in space !!! There is a FE wagon at the dealership, they want 27K over sticker. I’ve tried to get excited about this car, but having a neutered exhaust and now plenty of issues, I could have saved a bunch of coin and probably a lot happier with something else.
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Old Jun 18, 2023 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by My2010M3
I wouldn’t be that disappointed. These AMG cars are marginal, at best. My wagon has been anything but impressive. Just really, another car that was poorly built and not so reliable. I have had the car die in traffic, spit and sputter, not wanting to start. Dealership is awful when it comes to diagnosing the problem. I’ve got zero confidence at this point, both in the car and the dealership. Really a shame when you save enough to buy a “dream car/ unicorn” and it ends up being a POS !!! So, save your money and buy a Cadillac or something else that isn’t a piece of crap like my wagon. Car dealerships are lost in space !!! There is a FE wagon at the dealership, they want 27K over sticker. I’ve tried to get excited about this car, but having a neutered exhaust and now plenty of issues, I could have saved a bunch of coin and probably a lot happier with something else.
Sorry, you've had such a poor experience. The only problems I've had with my 2021 E63S wagon were a leaky windshield washer container which needed to be replaced after 2/12 years and a new battery both under warranty. That's been all the extra services that I've done other than my A and B maintenance. My experience with my prior 2018 AMG E63S sedan (32,000 miles) was almost flawless as well except for a recall to update the ECU software to eliminate a CEL condition for the engine running too lean.
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Old Jun 21, 2023 | 01:37 PM
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2023 E63S Wagon
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Old Jun 21, 2023 | 01:48 PM
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Awesome. Congrats. Ceramics and all. Did you spec this one? Canada?
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Old Jun 21, 2023 | 02:44 PM
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Awesome. Congrats. Ceramics and all. Did you spec this one? Canada?
Must be. No US FE wagon has CCB'S
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Old Jun 21, 2023 | 03:00 PM
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Awesome. Congrats. Ceramics and all. Did you spec this one? Canada?
TYVM. Can’t spec them but this one is Canadian spec and they are all pre-configured. Thankfully with CCB multibeam etc.
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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 10:03 AM
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Meaningful options absent on US Final Editions:
DB9 Sun Protection Package
313 Manual Rear Side Window Sunshades
P09 Sun Protection Package Code
DC5 Acoustic Comfort Package
596 Heat, Noise insulating, & Infrared Reflecting glass
293 Rear Side Airbags
432 Active Multicontour Front Seats with Massage
463 Head-Up Display with AMG Specific Content
581 3-Zone Climate Control
5U6 Black Painted Radiator Trim
872 Heated Rear Seats
883 Soft-Close Doors
B07 AMG High-Performance Ceramic Composite Braking System

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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Meaningful options absent on US Final Editions:
DB9 Sun Protection Package
313 Manual Rear Side Window Sunshades
P09 Sun Protection Package Code
DC5 Acoustic Comfort Package
596 Heat, Noise insulating, & Infrared Reflecting glass
293 Rear Side Airbags
432 Active Multicontour Front Seats with Massage
463 Head-Up Display with AMG Specific Content
581 3-Zone Climate Control
5U6 Black Painted Radiator Trim
872 Heated Rear Seats
883 Soft-Close Doors
B07 AMG High-Performance Ceramic Composite Braking System
That’s a literal atrocity. WTF.
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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Meaningful options absent on US Final Editions:
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P09 Sun Protection Package Code
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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 01:21 PM
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We have 2-3 or final editions available in our area - dealers are asking ~$20k ADM. I was able to negotiate it down to $10k, with some additional warranty thrown in. But, after realizing that so many options are missing and it's at least $30k more expensive than a low mileage fully kitted 2021 version, didn't pull the trigger.
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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HBerman
Sorry, you've had such a poor experience. The only problems I've had with my 2021 E63S wagon were a leaky windshield washer container which needed to be replaced after 2/12 years and a new battery both under warranty. That's been all the extra services that I've done other than my A and B maintenance. My experience with my prior 2018 AMG E63S sedan (32,000 miles) was almost flawless as well except for a recall to update the ECU software to eliminate a CEL condition for the engine running too lean.
Had my 2021 till end of May. It spent a collective 3 months of that time at the dealership for dumb ****.
Egs Replaced two of my rear light assembly due to the bulbs going out. Tried fixing several creaks and groans for over a month. Replaced front diff, replaced door trim from warping. Replaced the front bumper trim 3 times until we figured out that it was a dealer tech breaking it on accident. Replaced the lugnut cover cos the MB badge disappeared one day. Also had the washer fluid container replaced from leaking in the first 10k miles
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Engine and trans were solid though. Even the electronics were generally reliable except for the bulbs. But MBUX is very dated compared to the competition (BMW, Audi, Porsche).

So the thought of paying more for even less for a final edition is definitely not appealing to me. Switched to M8 coupe mod lease and happier.
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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 01:33 PM
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Out of this latest round of final/special editions: C63 FE, E63 FE, Edition 55s and whatever else I'm missing. It seems like the E63 FE is the biggest ripoff out of all them. Being it has a higher package price with the least amount of options. It's basically a poverty spec with an inflated 50K price and that doesn't include any ADM thrown on top.
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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Archerrrus
We have 2-3 or final editions available in our area - dealers are asking ~$20k ADM. I was able to negotiate it down to $10k, with some additional warranty thrown in. But, after realizing that so many options are missing and it's at least $30k more expensive than a low mileage fully kitted 2021 version, didn't pull the trigger.
What area is this?
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Old Jun 25, 2023 | 03:35 PM
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What area is this?
Western Washington.
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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 06:40 PM
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Forget the E-class if you don't want a wagon. This is infinitely hotter.

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Old Jun 27, 2023 | 07:20 PM
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Forget the E-class if you don't want a wagon. This is infinitely hotter. https://youtu.be/b0f8OXLuARI
Unfortunately, not for you. The camera is off-center! However, the car is 208" long and the dimensions make it look fantastic. Now if I could only afford a chauffeur!
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Forget the E-class if you don't want a wagon. This is infinitely hotter.
They should make a S63 Wagon. If ePerformance is needed to sell TTV8 in the States dial it up to 1000-horsepower for the Governator to Erase his Hummers...
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Old Jun 28, 2023 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Forget the E-class if you don't want a wagon. This is infinitely hotter. https://youtu.be/b0f8OXLuARI
Please don't be that guy. The sedan is perfectly fine. I have one (2023 non-FE). I was hoping the wagon and sedan guys got along in this forum.

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Old Jun 28, 2023 | 08:30 AM
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^^^Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of E63 in either variant. Plenty of potential downsides with new S-class including size, weight and cost. Congrats on finding a 2023, no easy task.
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Old Jun 28, 2023 | 08:45 AM
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Please don't be that guy. The sedan is perfectly fine. I have one (2023 non-FE). I was hoping the wagon and sedan guys got along in this forum.
The wagon weighs 4725 lbs. vs. the sedan at 4497 lbs. so the wagon is heavier, and has more interior noise (even with the acoustic package installed). I'm not sure why there are more wagon people than sedan people on this forum, but it's possibly because the wagon is a rarer beast and a harder variant to obtain. The sedan had the additional option of the high-end Burmeister Stereo system (which does sound fantastic) which was never available in the wagon. Enjoy your new ride. All is well.
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Old Jun 28, 2023 | 08:58 AM
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I am so happy you guys didn't take me the wrong way. I feel the love. Also you wagon guys are special people (in a good way lol.)

It was quite an adventure, like everyone getting a 2023 apparently (unless you want the FE, lots of those sitting around, but I think we all know why.)
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Old Jun 28, 2023 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Drone_S213
They should make a S63 Wagon. If ePerformance is needed to sell TTV8 in the States dial it up to 1000-horsepower for the Governator to Erase his Hummers...
Stretched wheelbase limo S63 wagon! It might end up looking like a Hearst though... 🤔
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Cool S-Class Wagon Render Pic

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Stretched wheelbase limo S63 wagon! It might end up looking like a Hearst though... 🤔
Saw this S-Class Wagon Pic online. I might have $200K for an ePerformance TTV8 S63 Wagon after 2026?

https://carbuzz.com/news/new-mercedes-s-class-looks-awesome-as-a-high-performance-amg-wagon


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Unfortunately, not for you. The camera is off-center! However, the car is 208" long and the dimensions make it look fantastic. Now if I could only afford a chauffeur!
Harris, I can't believe the camera isn't centered like the 213. Atrocity. V8 hybrid may be the best of both worlds. Love the dark blue here, Nautical. I was a fool not to do the standard offering but when I had the sample it was too sparkly. Looks good in the shade though. Classy.

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Why... why did they make the camera off center in this S63 E-performance too? I was hoping the W213 FL off-center camera was just a one-off flaw. (Someone else in this forum said this, but the design team should be fired for this.)
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