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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 07:59 PM
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Harris, the leather, thankfully, is a few shades darker than white. I've used only Leather Masters cleaner and conditioner for the past 20 years. It is amazing stuff. Way overdue, maybe. Project for this summer. Most every surface in my truck is covered in leather, even the roof. Even though it's 14 years old, it'll still reek of leather again after a good cleaning and conditioning. BTW, if you get the Leather Masters, make sure you opt for the matte conditioner.
Thanks! Can you point me to the correct product? I assume that I also need the leather cleaner, correct?
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 09:07 PM
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 09:45 PM
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That's a gorgeous wagon. Love what they did with the wheels and calipers.

Harris, here is the link to the company.
https://leatherworldtech.com

Can't find the matte anymore, doesn't look like they make it. I have had mine for so many years the label has worn off. A little goes a long way. I need to buy more myself and will give them a call next week and let you know. I now see they sell on Amazon. They have a starter kit here including the cleaner and protection cream.
LEATHER MASTER 250ML LEATHER CARE KIT - Cleaning Kit Contains The Cleaner, Conditioner, Sponge, And Products For All Leather Car Interior And Furniture Detailing https://a.co/d/iZtjMeA

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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 11:18 AM
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Alan, I'm a sucker for non-metallic darker blues. Care to take a guess?
Hint: Classic Mercedes color.

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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Alan, I'm a sucker for non-metallic darker blues. Care to take a guess?
Hint: Classic Mercedes color.
I guess 904 Midnight Blue.
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 11:59 AM
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Yessir
Awesome color! My father had a Buick Electra in the same color. The nice thing is that the color stays constant in different lighting unlike Lunar Blue which went from blue to almost black which is the reason that I chose Graphite Grey instead.
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 01:22 PM
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Didn't know Buick offered the same color. Happy to hear you liked it. If it looked good on that barge, I believe it could look good on anything. Saw it on a G-wagon and I was hooked. Took months getting Porsche's Slate Grey approved but changed in the final hour.
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Didn't know Buick offered the same color. Happy to hear you liked it. If it looked good on that barge, I believe it could look good on anything. Saw it on a G-wagon and I was hooked. Took months getting Porsche's Slate Grey approved but changed in the final hour.
Good that you didn't go with Slate Grey. I'm seeing a lot of KIA and Honda SUVs with that color scheme now. The non-metallic blue is a great choice. BTW, the Buick color was called Deep Blue Metallic.

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Old Jul 2, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Didn't know Buick offered the same color. Happy to hear you liked it. If it looked good on that barge, I believe it could look good on anything. Saw it on a G-wagon and I was hooked. Took months getting Porsche's Slate Grey approved but changed in the final hour.
not like this matters but I wonder who had it first, MB or Buick? Just curious, that's all.
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Old Jul 2, 2023 | 11:53 AM
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Based on some quick Google work, Buick (1960) was first to use the name. I believe Mercedes introduced it in 1971 on SL. Countless automotive 'Midnight Blue' applications. Popular name so odds are they share name but not formula.
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Old Jul 2, 2023 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Based on some quick Google work, Buick (1960) was first to use the name. I believe Mercedes introduced it in 1971 on SL. Countless automotive 'Midnight Blue' applications. Popular name so odds are they share name but not formula.
I see, thanks. That answered my curiosity.
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
That's a gorgeous wagon. Love what they did with the wheels and calipers.

Harris, here is the link to the company.
https://leatherworldtech.com

Can't find the matte anymore, doesn't look like they make it. I have had mine for so many years the label has worn off. A little goes a long way. I need to buy more myself and will give them a call next week and let you know. I now see they sell on Amazon. They have a starter kit here including the cleaner and protection cream.
LEATHER MASTER 250ML LEATHER CARE KIT - Cleaning Kit Contains The Cleaner, Conditioner, Sponge, And Products For All Leather Car Interior And Furniture Detailing https://a.co/d/iZtjMeA
Ordered from Amazon for $31.99. Thanks again.
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Old Jul 2, 2023 | 12:52 PM
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RBM Atlanta has a final edition wagon and sedan as of last week. $219k!!!

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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Alan, I'm a sucker for non-metallic darker blues. Care to take a guess?
Hint: Classic Mercedes color.
Amazing that the dealer and MB were willing to play ball for a custom color! Looking forward to pics…

For weeks I went back and forth with the GM of a dealer that had one of the non-FE 2023s unspoken for, but he insisted on a Magno color. Almost had him convinced to go 040 Black. Dealbreaker for me.
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Amazing that the dealer and MB were willing to play ball for a custom color! Looking forward to pics…

For weeks I went back and forth with the GM of a dealer that had one of the non-FE 2023s unspoken for, but he insisted on a Magno color. Almost had him convinced to go 040 Black. Dealbreaker for me.
I would have bought that 2023 non-FE and wrapped it in the color of my choice...Hopefully your 2024 RS6 Avant Performance will give you the upper hand. Get the Bronze Edition...
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Harris, if they can't figure it out maybe as them to rotate your tires and see if that makes any difference.
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Harris, if they can't figure it out maybe as them to rotate your tires and see if that makes any difference.
Side to side? Good idea.
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As long as your tires aren't directional, why not.
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Originally Posted by Drone_S213
I would have bought that 2023 non-FE and wrapped it in the color of my choice...Hopefully your 2024 RS6 Avant Performance will give you the upper hand. Get the Bronze Edition...
Yes, in hindsight that would have been a good idea. But back in December I was convinced more allocations would be coming.

Very happy with my AT at the moment…will wait and see what the S214 AT is all about, and see if we get an AMG version of the new wagon in the US before looking hard at the Audi.
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Originally Posted by ocdbroker
As long as your tires aren't directional, why not.
I seen most directional tires are on winters, does OEM summer performance still come with directional?
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Harris, if they can't figure it out maybe as them to rotate your tires and see if that makes any difference.
Several items were found today by the technician:

1. The inner tread of the left front tire had a different wear pattern than the rest of the tire (namely a toe-heel pattern), but only slightly.
2. The alignment needed to be corrected (posted results in another thread) and was executed
3. Tires were rotated side-side to even out the wear
4. Tires were force balanced

There were no other anomalies uncovered. The car is a bit quieter now, noise at slow speed is gone, maybe a little less noise on the interstate, and the steering wheel center is now dead on. ($388 total bill)

The inner tread wear is the result of the aggressive negative camber (-1.54 degrees) which has been documented in other threads. Interestingly, my PS/4 AS tires had over 18000 miles on them and the tread depth is 6/23" which implies at least another 10,000 miles to be had before needing replacement. By comparison, I'm certain that I would have already consumed 2 sets of PS/4 tires. The fact that these cars only come with summer tires is a real crime. I took delivery of my wagon in Feb 2021 when the temps were hovering around 40 degrees. Michelin says not to use the PS/4 tires below 45 degrees and the traction on the tires was not good. Fortunately, it wasn't raining. I trashed the PS/4 tires within the next two weeks.

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^^^Happy to hear that this wasn't something worse. Still feel a bit off or perfectly resolved?
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^^^Happy to hear that this wasn't something worse. Still feel a bit off or perfectly resolved?
The low-level noise has been greatly diminished and I expect that as the tires wear a little that the roughness on the tire (toe-heel pattern) will be reduced. I don't feel any real reduction in highway noise/vibration after the force balancing, but it's hard to know without a control. The steering wheel center is dead on now and the car tracks straight (but it was OK before). I'm changing the tires out in the Spring so that should address any remaining residual noise.

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