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Our old Renntech ELM was raising to stock height at a speed one can set. Default was 35mph. Worked great no alignment was ever needed and virtually all tire wear occurs at speed (always used spacers). Great feature. But at the same time our E63s was great with a permanent drop and spacers as well. Even tire wear. Go figure...
Hi Wolfman, just picked up an ED1 myself last week and wanted to ask what lowering module and width of spacers did you go with? 15mm/12mm? My concern was tire wear myself, so if you had no issues with your setup, I’m all ears! Thank you in advance!
Hi Wolfman, just picked up an ED1 myself last week and wanted to ask what lowering module and width of spacers did you go with? 15mm/12mm? My concern was tire wear myself, so if you had no issues with your setup, I’m all ears! Thank you in advance!
Definitely worked better than expected. Supreme Power spacers were the ones to get in 2018 (15mm fronts and 12mm rears), so I would check them out or H&R which we have used for everything else. We got one of the early OBD2 lowering modules that the guy in Belarus did (via Ebay). Did the job for $350 but am not crazy for the VIN locking.
It now collects dust in the garage
I ordered my lowering module today from MWM (Most Wanted Mods). Granted, I have COMAND, not MBUX, but yeah... looking forward to the magic of disappearing fender gap!
I'm curious on how the CETE works at slow speed. IE I have it set to lower at 10 mph. I start lowered and speed up to 30mph and it raises. I then stop at a stoplight. Does it then lower again and then raise once the light goes green and I get back up above 10mph?
I'm curious on how the CETE works at slow speed. IE I have it set to lower at 10 mph. I start lowered and speed up to 30mph and it raises. I then stop at a stoplight. Does it then lower again and then raise once the light goes green and I get back up above 10mph?
As I understand yes.
And, the lowest speed setting is 30mph
My shop said most people set it at highway speed limit 60mph so around town it’s always lowered. I set mine to 30mph to give the airmatic a workout and save the tires more?
I checked my 2023 VIN with MWMODS and they say I can only choose a module with a set setting. I don’t want that. I want to adjust front/rear individually by the mm.
“Module which allows to adjust height by yourself is available for Mercedes with Command unit multimedia.
Facelifted E63s 2023 equipped with MBUX unit , our module doesn’t allow to adjust the height on the go .
All our customers - E63(s) owners are happy with 1 version -20/30mm .”
Anyone have a newer car with a module lowering by the mm?
Greetings.
For future buyers of suspension lowering modules MBUX, I would like to say that we can program each of the 2 low modes to the heights you want. Separately FRONT and REAR.
For example:
-15mm front, -22mm rear.
and
-50mm front and back
or any other values between -70mm and +40mm.
You can tell me your preferences and I can advise you on which heights will better Also you can always clear your doubts by talking to forum members.
As I understand yes.
And, the lowest speed setting is 30mph
My shop said most people set it at highway speed limit 60mph so around town it’s always lowered. I set mine to 30mph to give the airmatic a workout and save the tires more?
I wonder if this is something that can cause air suspension failure if it’s constantly having to regulate ride height? I really wanted to do the whole spacers and lowering module thing, but I’m concerned about tyre wear and screwing up the air suspension.
I wonder if this is something that can cause air suspension failure if it’s constantly having to regulate ride height? I really wanted to do the whole spacers and lowering module thing, but I’m concerned about tyre wear and screwing up the air suspension.
Good point. It will obviously add more cycles and load to the system but how that impacts the longevity of the system I think is unknown.
The original owner of my car had the air compressor replaced at around 20K miles then shorty after had some air leaks and lines replaced, so it's difficult to know if the air compressor was actually bad, or if it was just a typical "replace parts until the problem goes away" situation.
It could have been just some simple air leaks all along.
Yep modding will do this. More HP = more wear. Remove torque limits = more damage. More airmatic movement = more stresses for sure. Messing with the alignment will wear the tires and affect handling. How good or bad? If I was too worried about reliability I'd leave it alone or just buy a Camry. My one regret with my old E63 was waiting too long to mod it. I waited until the warranty ran out at 160,000kms to do anything, then by the time I made the car "my way" it was time to move on. Looking back leaving it all stock I still had 22 service visits and spent a pile of money on it.
Yep modding will do this. More HP = more wear. Remove torque limits = more damage. More airmatic movement = more stresses for sure. Messing with the alignment will wear the tires and affect handling. How good or bad? If I was too worried about reliability I'd leave it alone or just buy a Camry. My one regret with my old E63 was waiting too long to mod it. I waited until the warranty ran out at 160,000kms to do anything, then by the time I made the car "my way" it was time to move on. Looking back leaving it all stock I still had 22 service visits and spent a pile of money on it.
Being a life-long modder myself, I totally agree with this. It's part of the contract you sign with the modding devil, lol.
I know going in that my mods may cause issues, but that doesn't bother me, I expect it and am prepared for that possibility. The price to pay.
For me it's worth it, but it's definitely not for everyone.
Are OBD lowering modules seen by the dealer? Need to know for warranty work!
I wouldn't worry about it myself, just put the height to stock and take it in.
From my limited understanding of the logic systems of our cars, if the dealer plugs-in for diagnostics, etc., there is nothing they will see that will reveal any changes have been made to the ride height parameters if the stock height is set at the time.
I would think if a thorough forensics examination was performed on the system it would reveal changes were made at certain times, but this would be a time and resource consuming task that wouldn't be performed without a legitimate purpose to do so, such as a lawsuit or specific major dispute involving the airmatic system. I highly doubt such a thing would happen upon a whim.
Even if such an extremely rare forensics examination were to happen, they would still have to prove that your specific change contributed to a failure you expect to be covered by warranty.
I wouldn't worry about it myself, just put the height to stock and take it in.
From my limited understanding of the logic systems of our cars, if the dealer plugs-in for diagnostics, etc., there is nothing they will see that will reveal any changes have been made to the ride height parameters if the stock height is set at the time.
I would think if a thorough forensics examination was performed on the system it would reveal changes were made at certain times, but this would be a time and resource consuming task that wouldn't be performed without a legitimate purpose to do so, such as a lawsuit or specific major dispute involving the airmatic system. I highly doubt such a thing would happen upon a whim.
Even if such an extremely rare forensics examination were to happen, they would still have to prove that your specific change contributed to a failure you expect to be covered by warranty.
JMO
Here's my experience. I could not find or unplug the lowering CETE module before taking my car in for the transmission issue. I called the installer and they said it is inline with the air suspension controller somewhere that is not easily accessible. And, if I swung by for them to remove it might require some kind of base programming again on re-install. They also said "If you are going to Oakville dealer we have a really good relationship with them. If you have any issue tell them to call us, we do a lot of work for them and order all our MB parts from them. We can explain it to them how it works and how it's unrelated to your transmission". I left the CETE inline and set to stock height before taking it to the dealer.
Same with the ASR exhaust valve module. It is way too annoying to psychically remove completely, so I set it to "3" which is transparent mode where it lets the system operate as stock, not forcing the valves open or closed.
Friday when I got home I read on my work order from the dealer "NO FAULT CODES RELATED TO CONCERN" and "CLEAR ALL FAULT CODES, ROAD TEST, VEHICLE OK". For those that don't know I left the vehicle there, until they can ROAD TEST VEHICLE - TRANSMISSION SLIPS". I did not get a chance yet to ask WHAT codes they cleared, but I'm 99% certain it will be something like "Exhaust flap position out of spec" or "Suspension height not as requested" or something like that. Hell when I did the "alway on" interncooler pump mod on my W212 the computer knows right away "IC pump circuit ground error" LOL.
You are right, these cars are very smart... lots of data and reporting happening always.
I personally don't think the techs care that much about light mods like we're talking about, I think they are more focused on resolving the task at hand.
I think you only need to worry if either the dealer, the tech, or YOU are a-holes.
No, the dealer still has it. When I went to pick it up Friday leaving the parking spot the transmission was slipping. I couldn't get them out fast enough to see, after 1 minutes it was "tight" again. https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8829358
They are keeping it until it slips on them or Germany says what the next step is. I'll know more soon.
No, the dealer still has it. When I went to pick it up Friday leaving the parking spot the transmission was slipping. I couldn't get them out fast enough to see, after 1 minutes it was "tight" again. https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8829358
They are keeping it until it slips on them or Germany says what the next step is. I'll know more soon.
Argh, okay. Well it's actually better in the long run that they still have it, I sure hope they can find the smoking gun so it's actually fixed and you can get it out of your mind.
only for Pre-Facelift.
MBUX is vvvvery complicated, in terms of coding.
Everytime I get call about coding on MBUX, I cringe.
Agree. What do you think about the NTG7 😁
As for the NTG6 and suspension lowering module - we will program the heights the customer wants.
It is enough to explain why he needs the suspension lowering module. For driving or for photos.
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Also you can always clear your doubts by talking to forum members.
