A "yeah, right" thread on the BMW M5 race stories forum:
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we can make a bet...You can check my whole car and if you find a nitrous bottle then ill give you $500, but if you dont find one then you give me $50!!!...
In regards to the race:
Roll racing is for ricers or 1000hp Supras!!! If you want to elimiate human error then learn the car!!! You run from a roll and you are only testing peak power to weight ratio...we might as well take it to the dyno. A real test of a race that replicates a race from stop light to stop light is from a dig. A real race is out the hole... testing not only your ability to drive, but your vehicles whole powerband and your vehicles suspension. I dont waste my time roll ricing... when your ready to run a real mans race (out the hole) then we'll run it. Im not trying to sound like a ****, but you drive a bad *** European car, I hate to see you give into this roll ricing bull****!!! If you need time to learn to drive ur car, learn it and we'll run it!!
Originally Posted by APK1013
As long as you don't have NOS or anything I am down. This should be good. I am very busy with school this week, so just give a little time. I prefer to go 3 honks from a twenty role. That takes any human error out of it. It is purely down to the power of the car. Let me know what you think. 
we can make a bet...You can check my whole car and if you find a nitrous bottle then ill give you $500, but if you dont find one then you give me $50!!!...
In regards to the race:
Roll racing is for ricers or 1000hp Supras!!! If you want to elimiate human error then learn the car!!! You run from a roll and you are only testing peak power to weight ratio...we might as well take it to the dyno. A real test of a race that replicates a race from stop light to stop light is from a dig. A real race is out the hole... testing not only your ability to drive, but your vehicles whole powerband and your vehicles suspension. I dont waste my time roll ricing... when your ready to run a real mans race (out the hole) then we'll run it. Im not trying to sound like a ****, but you drive a bad *** European car, I hate to see you give into this roll ricing bull****!!! If you need time to learn to drive ur car, learn it and we'll run it!!
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Benzo, I agree....
...he is the one who was bragging about how his "perfect launch" allowed him to beat a car with 100 more horsepower than his own to 110 mph. If he cannot duplicate this feat, why would anyone believe it ever happened??
Imo, it didn't. Which has been my point all along, and which is why he is stubbornly resisting any and all efforts to show up and prove his mettle.
Imo, it didn't. Which has been my point all along, and which is why he is stubbornly resisting any and all efforts to show up and prove his mettle.
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Anyone in Miami?
fellows, this kind of person need to be taught a lesson. Why don't we give him that lesson. Too bad he is in Florida, otherwise I will be more than willing to show up. C'monn fellas.
fellows, this kind of person need to be taught a lesson. Why don't we give him that lesson. Too bad he is in Florida, otherwise I will be more than willing to show up. C'monn fellas.
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Originally Posted by S_kLaSse
Anyone in Miami?
fellows, this kind of person need to be taught a lesson. Why don't we give him that lesson. Too bad he is in Florida, otherwise I will be more than willing to show up. C'monn fellas.
fellows, this kind of person need to be taught a lesson. Why don't we give him that lesson. Too bad he is in Florida, otherwise I will be more than willing to show up. C'monn fellas.
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Originally Posted by MrAMG
Hello APK1013??!?? You still there?? Hmm... Probably studying again for another finals?
You should have taken Bilal's advise, told you so.
You should have taken Bilal's advise, told you so.
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Originally Posted by APK1013
Really, I'll come down to Miami, and we can see if you are for real.
Didn't see this post until today. Umm yeah, REALLY. I'm plenty real, i'm actually waiting for you & Benzo to figure out the date & time. See ya soon! :v
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Originally Posted by MiamiC55
Didn't see this post until today. Umm yeah, REALLY. I'm plenty real, i'm actually waiting for you & Benzo to figure out the date & time. See ya soon! :v
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Originally Posted by MersAMG
Dont forget to tell us about your racing when you finish it! Who won and etc...
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Miami, it's supposed to go down this week (finally!!)
Didn't know if you were in the loop. I'll PM you as well.
BTW, if there are now any CL55 owners in the Boca Raton, FLA area who would like to show this M5 fellow up, the meet is this week!!
BTW, if there are now any CL55 owners in the Boca Raton, FLA area who would like to show this M5 fellow up, the meet is this week!!
Originally Posted by MiamiC55
Didn't see this post until today. Umm yeah, REALLY. I'm plenty real, i'm actually waiting for you & Benzo to figure out the date & time. See ya soon! :v
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I am in the Boca Raton area. I have a C32 AMG stock right now with a set of HRE's. My HRE's plus roof spoiler and lip spoiler should give me about a 100hp gain so yeah I am down to race . Benzo if you are still racing this kid I must be there to watch. Later fellas
. Benzo if you are still racing this kid I must be there to watch. Later fellas
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Originally Posted by ENARANG
ALso in twisty curves and winding roads MB doesn't stand a chance at BMW. Although in a straight line a MB would win. That is where the two german automakers split
C55 vs. E39 M5:
W208 CLK55 vs. E39 M5:
C55 vs. M3:
SL55 vs. Z8:
SL55 vs. brand spanking new E60 M5:
Now what was it that you were saying?
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Originally Posted by ENARANG
However, a supercharged M3 would hand even the CL55, SL55 or E55 their as*es
However, just for grins: the best run we've got in the forums so far for a stock E55 is 12.11 @ 117.49...on stock tires. Have you got any evidence that a supercharged M3 has bested this time? Because when Car & Driver tested the Autoworke supercharged M3, the best they got was a 13.1 at 109.
This is not even a match, let alone a win, against any of the stock Mercedes you listed.
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Improviz your link to that website was useless. It just shows random times for acceleration etc... and also it uses the old E39 M5 not the new v10 powered that will surely hand the E55 its buttocks around corners. I've already read a new artcle by Motor Trend on comparing the two cars. I don't know but it specifically states that the E55 would win in straight line acceleration but going around corners the M5 is the speedier one.
The supercharge placed in the M3 that was tested by C&D was a lame 5.5 psi boost.
I believe the fastest time for an M3 to 60 m.p.h was 4.3 seconds and I'm not sure about the 1/4 mile.
Next time provide useful video or something with the new M5. No point comparing an old 400 hp V8 to a supercharged v8 with nearly 500 hp when there is a new V10 from BMW with 500h.p.
The supercharge placed in the M3 that was tested by C&D was a lame 5.5 psi boost.
I believe the fastest time for an M3 to 60 m.p.h was 4.3 seconds and I'm not sure about the 1/4 mile.
Next time provide useful video or something with the new M5. No point comparing an old 400 hp V8 to a supercharged v8 with nearly 500 hp when there is a new V10 from BMW with 500h.p.
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ENARANG, I'm gonna save Improviz the trouble.
The links he provided show the Nurburgring round times and those of Hockenheim, look further down.
The C55 beats the old M5 on the Nring and equals the M3 on the same track.
The old CLK55 is nearly on pace with the old M5 and beats it on Hockenheim.
The SL55 BEATS the NEW M5 with a 155mph LIMITER vs the BMW's 170mph limiter. A detuned SL55 was EVEN FASTER. Albeit by 1 second.
The links he provided show the Nurburgring round times and those of Hockenheim, look further down.
The C55 beats the old M5 on the Nring and equals the M3 on the same track.
The old CLK55 is nearly on pace with the old M5 and beats it on Hockenheim.
The SL55 BEATS the NEW M5 with a 155mph LIMITER vs the BMW's 170mph limiter. A detuned SL55 was EVEN FASTER. Albeit by 1 second.
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ENARANG, if you'd pull your head out and bother to actually read the links I provided, as Bilal said, they do show track times for all of the cars (around not one, but two tracks), and acceleration, braking, etc. Ever hear of a "scroll" button?? And if you bothered to read the TEXT I wrote, you'd see it DOES mention that I was comparing the SL55 to the NEW M5:
Now, I know you obviously are ignorant and don't read car mags, but the *E39* M5 was the old one, and the *E60* M5 is the new, 500 hp version. And guess what? Despite being 300 pounds heavier and having two fewer gears, the SL55 beat your coveted M5's lap time around the 'ring, which again you would know if you'd bothered to even skim, let alone read, the data.
And I'm not going to waste time arguing with someone who's already made up his mind, facts be damned. The track data clearly show that your idiotic assertion was just that--idiotic. Nothing but another useless BMW troll who's here to stir up trouble. You guys are nothing if not insecure. 
Oh, the E46 M3's fastest tested 0-60 time was 4.3 seconds? Horse hooey. Every magazine I've seen, domestic and international, tested it from 4.8-5.2. Post a link to any mag test showing an E46 M3 running a 4.3. You can't, because it doesn't exist.
As to the supercharged M3: *you* made the claim that it would hand any supercharged Benz it's *ss. I provided a link to a test of one which shows your assertion to be false. If you've got evidence to show otherwise, show it. Otherwise, the only person to produce any data for one actually being tested here is me.
And if you like BMW's so much, why not go to a BMW forum and discuss them? In case you hadn't noticed, this is a *MERCEDES* forum.
And if you bothered to read the TEXT I wrote, you'd see it DOES mention that I was comparing the SL55 to the NEW M5:
Originally Posted by Improviz
And I'm not going to waste time arguing with someone who's already made up his mind, facts be damned. The track data clearly show that your idiotic assertion was just that--idiotic.
Nothing but another useless BMW troll who's here to stir up trouble. You guys are nothing if not insecure. Oh, the E46 M3's fastest tested 0-60 time was 4.3 seconds? Horse hooey. Every magazine I've seen, domestic and international, tested it from 4.8-5.2. Post a link to any mag test showing an E46 M3 running a 4.3. You can't, because it doesn't exist.
As to the supercharged M3: *you* made the claim that it would hand any supercharged Benz it's *ss. I provided a link to a test of one which shows your assertion to be false. If you've got evidence to show otherwise, show it. Otherwise, the only person to produce any data for one actually being tested here is me.
And if you like BMW's so much, why not go to a BMW forum and discuss them? In case you hadn't noticed, this is a *MERCEDES* forum.
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Originally Posted by ENARANG
However, a supercharged M3 would hand even the CL55, SL55 or E55 their as*es
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Originally Posted by APK1013
My buddy has a Supercharged M3, so we can see. He was going to come when we were all supposed to race, but then I got a call that the weather wasn't good south of me. I still want to run Benzo since he ran in the 12's when he went to the track.
What a joke you are....I can't believe you still have the guts to show your face around here after wimping out, making excuses, and refusing to show up on multiple occasions.
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Originally Posted by APK1013
His trap speed is higher than the E55, and he dyno'ed 460 to the wheels. I believe his 60 foot time was over 2.0 as well.
So, where do you think SGC would end up if he decides to do some mods?
