KIRA

well maybe is like my Shock are too stiff so i lose body roll for handling...

i go coilover because the spring are killing tires but it did gimme good cornering too

o well, as my question before, would Tein wrench work on Bilstein coilover and now i found out already is a no. Tein wrench is just a bit too small

Blake P

Did you realize you can adjust the PSS9 shocks to be softer?

drexappeal

But you said TEIN S-tech! Those are just springs.

Bilstein PSS9's are full coilovers.

Dunno if the TEIN wrench is shaped the same as the Bilstein. And either way, it would be for TEIN Basic's or Super Street's, not for S-tech springs.

KIRA

yea, but if i go softer, i would need to raise my car up to avoid anymore tire shaving. I could go to carlab but i think is better if i could have a set for my own. My friend has a set of Tein SS coilover and i tried his wrench but its a bit smaller, he show me his they go perfectly


and sorry drex... i meant i got Tein S-tech lower spring..

and now i got Bilstein PSS9..

btw one more question how is there 9 way adjustable?
1. height
2. Damping
3. rebound
4. any more else?

drexappeal

WTH? Do you even really know what you have?

9 Way adjustable is simply referring to the dampers. There are 9 points of adjustment for soft to stiff.

KIRA

lol not really.. i was in need of a C/O and it was only $500 so might just grab it first

drexappeal

OMG, you got a steal of a deal if you really have PSS9's. Do you even know how to adjust your dampers?

KIRA

http://www.jic-magic.com/Files/5-FLT...y%209-7-05.pdf

on the top right?? once you pop the hood?

FrankW

I'll trade you my TEIN SS plus $150...

drexappeal

Don't listen to Frank. I have the prototypes for the TEIN SS and they're made for the 230K. I'll offer you the same thing!

drexappeal

Why'd you put up a link from JIC? I thought JIC is their own company.

Anyhow, you also haver rear damper adjustments.

FrankW

LOL

KIRA

the rear are fine only the front is giving me problem

drexappeal

Also, since you bought the PSS9's used, did you check to see if they needed to be re-valved before installing?

KIRA

i got it almost 4 months now... whatever happen is too late now

but it is giving me squeaky sound, is it what you mean by revalve thing?

or is the famous bushing problem from the sway?

drexappeal

There's so many different things "squeaky sound" could be... If you had no clue what you were getting into, why did you do it in the first place?

Re-valving is what they do with coilovers. If you want an equivalent, it would be like changing your shocks. Thing is, most coilover setups can last a really, really long time until they need re-valving.

KIRA

at first i go for C/O because i want more drop and avoiding tire shaving

i thought the squeaking sound was from my shock that were being abuse by my lower spring so i thought if i go CO i would get most of the problem fix right away...

iono anyway... sway bar is my next mod since Frank answer my noob question before

Marky Bends

Hey guys, I've done tons of reading on this topic and wheels in general. Thanks to those who really make this place a wealth of good information.

I have the opportunity to buy used Brabus springs locally but they are for the coupe. I have a 01' c320 and I know they make them for the sedan too.

What's everyone's opinion on putting these springs on my car? What would be the cons? Sit too low? Bounce too much?

Would the difference be to minimal to notice?

thanks!

Blake P

The height difference will be noticeable since your suspension is so high from the factory, but very similar to the 05-07 sport sedans. I assume your shocks are the original ones that came with your car and will probably be too soft to adequately handle the shorter/stiffer springs. My guess is the ride may start off ok, but will get crappy REAL quick unless you change the shocks as well. I recommend Koni shocks or just do it right and get some coilovers and be done with it.

Marky Bends

Thanks Blake..I will be getting Konis.

What I really am wondering about is the effect of using Brabus coupe springs on my sedan. What should I expect?

thanks!

btw. how long should stock shocks last?

Blake P

Coupe springs fit sedans just fine. Stock shocks with stock springs should last ~100k miles, more or less depending on how and where you drive or how picky you are about ride quality.

KIRA

coupe and sedan share the same setup, doesn't matter what brand are they, spring are spring, not a real good way to go

my friend 99' accord with 140k miles and went with Tein S-tech spring and his shocks didn't last 700 miles then they blew out

o well then he got a set of Tein Super street


or you can consider H&R spring with Bilstein Sport shock combo
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s....H1&perfCode=S

that's what most people do..

Marky Bends

But why when it comes to buying them are you supposed to specify coupe or sedan? Spring rate right?

Really appreciate your help guys..

KIRA

hmm good question

maybe website search engine search by Chassis?

and we did a couple search by looking at their part number and found out they are the same thing??

drexappeal

This isn't 100% accurate. There are certain manufacturers of aftermarket suspension that take into consideration weight distribution. For example, TEIN did R&D for the C320 Coupe because the weight was slightly heavier than the sedan. If you look at the website, the coupe is listed separately. The person that did the R&D for that is on this site, but I don't think he posts anymore. His name is Justinious. Reason I know is that I mentioned that TEIN was looking for a C320 coupe to R&D and he's the only one that responded.

You're comparing a JDM Sedan in 99 to Mercedes shocks from 2001-2007?...hmmm...I wouldn't necessarily use that as a bench mark. Different manufacturers, different weight distribution, different in a lot of ways. Not a good comparison.

Uh, I wouldn't say that "most" people go with H&R springs and Bilstein shock combo. What are you basing that off of?