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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 03:33 AM
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except there is abosolutely no way to tell that it is a modification due to the stock TB being used.
I like the sound of that... no warranty problems!
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 04:34 AM
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DREX! INFO ME! im highly considering the SB, but if this produce physical gains [even though miniscule], some is better then none. pls gimme full specs. source, price, down time, shipping etc.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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DREX! INFO ME! im highly considering the SB, but if this produce physical gains [even though miniscule], some is better then none. pls gimme full specs. source, price, down time, shipping etc.
You've got pm.

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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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could this work with the m111?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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could this work with the m111?
Not sure. It would have to be determined if the throttle body is the same size for the m111 and m271. Good question, but hopefully it can work.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Could the M-111 throttle body be similarly modified? I might be willing to send (or sacrifice) mine in the name of "science"....
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Anybody else want more info?
Drex, I was trying figure out the lbft torque dyno? What is going on between 2200 - 3200 rpms with the bored out throttle body. I dont know if i am reading it right but i think the green is stock and the red is the bored out throttle body right?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Drex, I was trying figure out the lbft torque dyno? What is going on between 2200 - 3200 rpms with the bored out throttle body. I dont know if i am reading it right but i think the green is stock and the red is the bored out throttle body right?
Goodness, forgot about your PM on the other board - I'll answer it right now.

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Could the M-111 throttle body be similarly modified? I might be willing to send (or sacrifice) mine in the name of "science"....
Yes, of course it can, and finding a cheap core off ebay/potomac would be a great start. There are way more available for M111s.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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3hp and 5tq isn't much
can you feel that difference???
3-5 hp is aactually alot ..also depends how much he paid...

basically its almost 100 dollar for a couple hp ..
1000 for 20-30 hp for pully..

around there...

once your done most mods.. throttle is a good idea to gain a little
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Goodness, forgot about your PM on the other board - I'll answer it right now.

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Just a little anxouis. I was also thinking I should ask drex since its his car and he has been driving it since the mod. I was curious to see how the ecu adjusted for the increase air. It takes some time before these cars completely adjust to new mods. Also i am just alittle anxious. I also remember you said you might add a spacer, so I just like to think what my plans are with this new mod. I love the fact that it is undetectable!
Oh by the way was I reading the dyno right?
Never mind I just got your answer from the other board.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Just a little anxouis. I was also thinking I should ask drex since its his car and he has been driving it since the mod. I was curious to see how the ecu adjusted for the increase air. It takes some time before these cars completely adjust to new mods. Also i am just alittle anxious. I also remember you said you might add a spacer, so I just like to think what my plans are with this new mod. I love the fact that it is undetectable!
Oh by the way was I reading the dyno right?
Never mind I just got your answer from the other board.
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I was about to answer you, but looks like flip was able to explain.

After 1 week driving with this thing, I can tell Everybody that it is definitely worth it (even though it's a very small gain). The biggest part I notice is in overtaking/passing and merging onto freeways. I didn't think the high end power would make a difference for me (since a lot of times I'm on the side streets), but having that little extra 'bit of power/torque helps trememdously (especially with the abundance of dumb drivers there seems to be in L.A.).

Anyways, the low end lag that is normally there has definitely decreased as well, however, it's still slightly there, so combining the sprint booster with this might be quite nice. Either way, for the price, it's definitely worth it.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by STi_JL
3-5 hp is aactually alot ..also depends how much he paid...

basically its almost 100 dollar for a couple hp ..
1000 for 20-30 hp for pully..

around there...

once your done most mods.. throttle is a good idea to gain a little
so by that reasoning i would have to pay $10,000 for 200hp? gosh that makes the C32 seem like a bargain!
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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so by that reasoning i would have to pay $10,000 for 200hp? gosh that makes the C32 seem like a bargain!
Wouldn't be laughing too hard about this one... remember PShek..? . It's another story to get a 1.8L to stomp the hell out of a C32 though . Then what? .
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Wouldn't be laughing too hard about this one... remember PShek..? . It's another story to get a 1.8L to stomp the hell out of a C32 though . Then what? .
If you figure that one out, bro... Everybody will be to you!...LOL.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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you know, i noticed once i put my catback on that the mid range and uper end increased noticably. I wonder if doing a catback exhaust is yielding the same results as doing the throttle body.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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you know, i noticed once i put my catback on that the mid range and uper end increased noticably. I wonder if doing a catback exhaust is yielding the same results as doing the throttle body.
You have to wonder though, which catback systems actually see real world power - it would be great if everyone supplied a before and after catback dyno of all the major brands (damn, still interested in any Remus exhausts). Price/hp and ease of installation/removal put some mods considerably ahead of others especially when a car is already hooked up on the dyno (as Drex' car was).

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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dynos cost money, catback exhausts cost money, doing a dyno with every popular catback exhaust would cost lots of money, not to mention the time and labor cost of swapping everything, hooking it all back up to the dyno after each swap. if anyone with this kind of money actually cared they probably would not be pushing a c-class.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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dynos cost money, catback exhausts cost money, doing a dyno with every popular catback exhaust would cost lots of money, not to mention the time and labor cost of swapping everything, hooking it all back up to the dyno after each swap. if anyone with this kind of money actually cared they probably would not be pushing a c-class.
Exactly - hence the advantage of an easily bolt-on/bolt-off part, such as a bored out TB. But I also think it's good practice for people to get a baseline of their cars (just for reference). Don't know where you guys are dynoing, but you'll find some shops do 3+ runs for less than $100 in the Hermosa Beach Area including A/F/Boost.

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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Exactly - hence the advantage of an easily bolt-on/bolt-off part, such as a bored out TB. But I also think it's good practice for people to get a baseline of their cars (just for reference). Don't know where you guys are dynoing, but you'll find some shops do 3+ runs for less than $100 in the Hermosa Beach Area including A/F/Boost.

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Yup. I can vouch for that too.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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grats on the new mod. let me now where u had it dynoed.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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grats on the new mod. let me now where u had it dynoed.
Frank,

It was Church Automotive. I can't remember what city it's considered. You can kinda see the name at the top of the dyno pics I posted. Head out on Friday, if you can. Me and flip are gonna be there again for more stuff.
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