c230k 6 speed not going into reverse
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c230k 6 speed not going into reverse
Please tell me it's not the tranny! '02 c230k 6 speed 60k miles will not go into reverse unless the car is rolling. What I need to do now is place the trans. in reverse while rolling just before parking. The car needs to be rolling either forwards, or backwards, with the clutch in, to get it in reverse, then it works fine. All forward gears are perfect. I changed the trans. fluid and it did not help.
Thankyou in advance for any replies.
Thankyou in advance for any replies.
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Does it grind when you try to put it in to reverse? If so, it might be the syncros. Try putting it into first and then reverse with the clutch in the whole time. But obviously something is wrong and get it checked out by the dealer. From what I understand, because most MB dealers sell so little manual cars they dont really know the transmission that well and will just replace it if something is wrong (besides little minor things). If you do have to replace the tranny, try and talk them into giving you the updated transmission from '05+ with the solid rod shifter instead of the cable shifter.
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Originally Posted by Capt Nemo o2
Does it grind when you try to put it in to reverse? If so, it might be the syncros. Try putting it into first and then reverse with the clutch in the whole time. But obviously something is wrong and get it checked out by the dealer. From what I understand, because most MB dealers sell so little manual cars they dont really know the transmission that well and will just replace it if something is wrong (besides little minor things). If you do have to replace the tranny, try and talk them into giving you the updated transmission from '05+ with the solid rod shifter instead of the cable shifter.
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Well if he needs a new tranny whats he going to do? Live with it the way it is? Sell it? I dont think he's going to have much luck finding a used/rebuilt MB manual tranny if it comes down to him needing one.
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Im not so sure on that very trans but most trannys dont have syncros for reverse gear. Its usally the slider or fork that has a problem. If a clutch is not fully releasing that can cause this problem too. Forward have syncros so if the clutch is not fully released then the syncros will stop the shafts from spining. So makes since reverse will show the problem first. Either way sounds like the trans will have to be removed and inspect clutch then go into tranny if needed. Peadl feels fine right? Plenty of hydrolic fluid in master cylinder? I see alot more clutchs go out then trannys but there always a possiblity. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by integlikewhoa
Im not so sure on that very trans but most trannys dont have syncros for reverse gear. Its usally the slider or fork that has a problem. If a clutch is not fully releasing that can cause this problem too. Forward have syncros so if the clutch is not fully released then the syncros will stop the shafts from spining. So makes since reverse will show the problem first. Either way sounds like the trans will have to be removed and inspect clutch then go into tranny if needed. Peadl feels fine right? Plenty of hydrolic fluid in master cylinder? I see alot more clutchs go out then trannys but there always a possiblity. Good luck.
Removing the trans and bell housing is pretty easy on a RWD car....get at it.
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I agree. This sounds more like a clutch problem than a tranny problem. Sounds like one or more of the fingers are broken or weak.
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Removing the trans and bell housing is pretty easy on a RWD car....get at it.
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Thanx for the input. a good frind of mine owns a jaguar shop, and lets me use the lift. I just used it to change the tranny fluid, and he let me borrow the vw drain plug wrench, and smaller hex fill plug tool. I didn't look like removing the tranny would be a big deal. The problem is having it rebuilt, or finding a rebuilt one. anyone have any suggestions?
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In the meantime, did you try holding the clutch pedal down and putting the tranny in first, then reverse right away, in one motion? I do not remember whether my tranny had a problem going into reverse when it was new, but I routinely do that and never had any trouble.
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by kazooguy
Thanx for the input. a good frind of mine owns a jaguar shop, and lets me use the lift. I just used it to change the tranny fluid, and he let me borrow the vw drain plug wrench, and smaller hex fill plug tool. I didn't look like removing the tranny would be a big deal. The problem is having it rebuilt, or finding a rebuilt one. anyone have any suggestions?
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Dood, are you listening? Its likely NOT the tranny. Its the CLUTCH. If the clutch is fine, you can burn the tranny bridge when you come to it. Just replace the clutch and get it over with. Even if the tranny ultimately is the problem, the clutch should still be replaced with 60K of hard driving on it anyway.
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Clutch Pedal Broke
I was told today my clutch pedal broke on my 2005 C230 Kompressor.. Does anyone know if it is an easy fix? I was told it broke at the pivot point where there is a pin that holds it together? Also was told the part is plastic? Is there anyone that has had this problem and if so, is fixing it easy? THANKS
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Dood, are you listening? Its likely NOT the tranny. Its the CLUTCH. If the clutch is fine, you can burn the tranny bridge when you come to it. Just replace the clutch and get it over with. Even if the tranny ultimately is the problem, the clutch should still be replaced with 60K of hard driving on it anyway.
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No not the clutch, the mounting point of the pedal. I get it.
You need to get the diagrams off the epc.
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You need to get the diagrams off the epc.
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'04 C230K 6spd
I have the 04 C230K 6spd sedan and I've got the exact same problem, but in my case it doesnt work only when I have just started the car... But if I put in any gear and then put reverse it works... Try doing this and let me know if it works... It's been like this since I bought it so I think it's a manufacturing mistake rather than something that we dis wrong..
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70k of abuse everyday and my clutch feels like it has 65% or more I would be surprised if I don't make it to 120-130k
On a side note I know a few people with jdm cars 350z sti rsx etc etc and 60-70k is normal life expectancy for a clutch
On a side note I know a few people with jdm cars 350z sti rsx etc etc and 60-70k is normal life expectancy for a clutch