BigDaddyPR

hi!! im wondering what mods if any do i need to be in the same category as an impreza wrx?? im planning on getting a pulley and a ecu upgrade... will that be anough?? maybe to go head 2 head with it?? the reason is that a friend of mine just kicked my *** badly......hehehehe. Thanks!!God Bless!!

AndrewK

I dont think a pulley and chip will push you over the edge. Is your car a 6-speed? Is the WRX a 5-speed? I've seen anywhere from 5.4-6.2 seconds for the stock WRX and of course 7.2-7.8 for the coupe. Maybe if he runs slow and you run your best it will be close.

Fuzzo

a miracle

Buellwinkle

With a pulley you will have the same HP and more torque than a WRX and no turbo lag. The WRX is a litle lighter. You will be as fast or faster than a WRX except for one biggy, AWD. The reason the WRX is faster at 0-60 is that it can get an incredible launch by revving the engine high into it's power band with no wheel spin at launch. He'll be a few car lenghts ahead of you before you know what happened. The only way to compete is to get 4 wheel drive. This is not realistic power because you are not going to do this much except in a drag race. So the real question is once you are moving at the same speed as a WRX can you beat him with your Coupe and a pulley, like on the highway, yes, I think so.

The same issue always comes up about the BMW330, it's soo much faster than a C320 but that's not true, the C320 is faster than a 2wd BMW330i under the same conditions but BMW has an AWD model called the BMW330xi that will do 0-60 in under 6 seconds using the same principles as the WRX. In reality, the extra weight and friction from the AWD system would make the xi slower at highway passing than the 2wd model.

viper

I don't know about this. While it sounds good technically all the publications I have ever seen on the 330xi show it being a little bit slower than its 2wd cousin. Additional weight penalty for the AWD I think.

jswedberg

Well, I know one sure fire solution!

And I own it. :p

(Sorry, couldn't help myself)

Buellwinkle

I've seen 0-60 on the BMW330xi at 6.2 at Motorweek.com and I've seen it even lower in other magazine but they are not in front of me now. Compare this to over 7 second 0-60 for the 2wd version. With an automatic it would be slower but with a manual trans you can do a wicket launch. This can't be good for the car but magazines don't usually care about the long term effects on the cars they borrow.

lhoang

brabus ! spend da dough.

Buellwinkle

How does Brabus make a coupe faster than a Subie WRX? Does it do it by making your wallet lighter?

lhoang

engine and the works. do it.

hey, have u ever seen that commercial where that guy is interviewing for a job and calls his potential boss "dumbass" the whole time, and at the end the boss corrects him by saying dumass. (doomaas) . your that guy. fanatic ?, your a sticker with imaginery horses.

Buellwinkle

So what exactly have you done to your C-Class to make it faster? Which Brabus kit do you have, the K3 Pulley for 220 hp (sorry, won't keep up with mine) or the 2.6 for 250hp (BFD, I can get that with ASP pulley and chip). I just don't see anything that Brabus can offer me that is going to wow me. You probably don't even own an MB and you are just trolling from the Subie forums.

AndrewK

I thought that was pretty funny! I have seen that commercial, its pretty good.

Realistically, Brabus does bore to 2.6L, so if you combined that with the Brabus pulley (for 250 hp) and later addded a chip, you would be more the in 265-270 range. I guess you could then add the Renntech intercooler for another 15 hp. So then you could realistically be @ 280 + hp. BTW the BMW 330Ci RWD goes 0-60 in 6.1 seconds, not 7+.

Also I think the Brabus pulley is on par with ASP. 220 is probably a conservative rating. Besides, I think a long time respected and experienced tuner like Brabus knows a bit more about Mercedes tuning than ASP.

MB-BOB

That's OK, Jim. At twice the price, your C32 AMG should damn well be faster than a WRX! Still feeling sorry for helping yourself?

(Just pulling your leg, buddy!)

Jorel C320

There's no car that can beat the wrx with the same price range. The closest one i can think of WAS the 2nd gen MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE GSX.....or for a couple thousand more, a MITSU LANCER EVO 7...(that'll even beat the c32)

230

Woah....lhoang, you live in the Woodlands? I lived there for like 5 years untill I moved up to Washington.

Buellwinkle

That depends, it is a steel ring welded on like Vaeth or H&S, a steel ring bolted on like Carlsson or Kleemann or a steel ring pressed on like Renntech or is it a lightweight billet pulley like ASP or Kleemann? I don't know any tuner that is conservative in their numbers, that's just a myth to justify spending more for less. And you are right ASP knows nothing about MBs, otherwise they wouldn't charge $350 for a pulley everyone else gets much more for. Let's hope they don't catch on. They also don't know much about wheels, floormats, keychains, leather interiors or body kits, but they do know pulleys. So when I go shopping for floormats I'll make sure not to go to ASP for them.

It's easy to critique a product when you are comparing it strictly to a name and you have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't they show us what they got, or is a name all they have? Do they make it themselves or outsource it to a pulley company like ASP? For $3,000 is their product legal or is it for racing and off-road use only?

I can throw names around too, AMG, why not get what the MB dealer sells, a C32. Why would anyone get Brabus C-Coupe with all the Brabus trimmings and settle for 280hp when they can have a 349hp AMG?

tommy

Well, Buell, you could get the Brabus V8 shoehorned in there. That was what - 4.5 sec 0-60? And that was with the girly slushbox. So that's one Brabus pkg that no one can sneeze at. And I'd assume that should take care of a wrx with no problem.

Buellwinkle

I still prefer the Chrysler 426 hemi crate motor in the coupe. If you are going to be that bizarre, nothing has the credibility and status of a hemi in something small. Like the hemi-cruiser at http://www.hemicruiser.com/ If they can shoehorn a hemi in a PT-Cruiser (the car that Chrysler said a V6 won't fit in), then the Hemi-Coupe should be no problem.

Besides, the WRX can be made into a 4.5 second 0-60 car way easier than putting a V8 in a coupe. It's already a 5.4 second car, put in a better turbo, a larger intercooler, exhaust, chip, boost controller and it's very possible for about what a Brabus pulley costs.

TimmyC230boy

Yeah you can do most of that stuff with the turbo audis too (S4, TT, A6. Bigger turbo, chip, intercooler, etc. As far as 0-60 just about any awd will be good. But once you get started its alot more even.

BlackC230Coupe

When u let me know tell me,
LOL


No but for real if u get a pully, chip, intercooler, exhaust, and go cheap with maybe 50 shot of nitrous u sould be able to beat him easy.

lhoang

tomy hit it on the spot.

anyways, buellsh**tter, i mean buellwinke*^%%&. i do own a 01' c240, 02' c-coupe (red), and 03' e500 on order. k. bye.

Mike T.

...is an Impreza WRX STi.

TimmyC230boy

Even better!

ledaml

NOS

Lynn

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