ragga

I recieve delivery of my Brilliant Silver 2003 Kompressor yesterday. It is REAL nice. You can mail me if you have any questions about the new models.

Also,

i need to know which springs will be compatible with the car to effectively lower it..

As u can tell i know jack @$#% about modifying cars. :-)

please help me out. i need more help than that though, i need to know basically any extra mods i can do to it?

tb2

So you have already taken delivery? This car has the 1.8 engine? How do you like it? How does it compare (what differences do you see) between it and the 2002 coupe? Anything we haven't heard about on the board?

ragga

problem is, i dont remember too much about the 2002 version. nothing extravagant changed otherwise i would have noticed...

still 1.8. however they have added a lower model.
hmm. they added another color some ugly color, everything else is pretty much the same

(sorry i am a dumbass when the mods come to place)


can anyone please help me out w/ mods?

Lynn

Lower model?

grn300m

Can you post some pics of your 2003? Exterior, interior, engine compartment? A lot of rumors about tweaks in options and features are out there. It would be nice to know first hand what cosmetic changes there are.

young

according to viper, i think, these were the rumored changes:

According to rumor...

2003 Coupe

Interior
- new design steering wheel incorporates cruise control
- single CD player standard
- new design smaller/cheaper 6 disk CD changer intro 12/02
- new high end DSP stereo system incl sub intro 12/02
- new interior colors TBA
- window switches moved up 15 cm
- storage pockets on seat back
- seat rack travel increase 5 cm
- seat latch repositon to side
- rear seat cupholders built-in console side
- 12V power point in hatchback area

Exterior
- several colors retired and new colors TBA
- new C7 wheel/all season tire option
- AMG package C9A/C9B intro 12/02 C9B incl 18 inch staggered
- rear window wiper option
- redesigned windscreen for pana roof effective MY2002 05/02
- bi-xeon headlight option intro 10/02
- new smart key functions TBA

can you confirm some of these?

avlis

My thoughts exactly Young. In fact I resurrected Viper's original post on that subject and I'm still confident that NONE of those changes occured.:p

Lynn

There is one new exterior color (none were dropped) and the bi-xenons are part of the C4 package.

CME4BENZ

Rumors are untrue,

There are no exterior changes on the '03 C coupe!
We have '03 cars here and I parked one next to an '02 yesterday to be sure. There are no changes to the exterior. I also could see no changes to the interior.

Of course the big dif is the 1.8 liter engine. I drove 6 speed '03 and the engine is smoother, quiter and seems to rev a little quicker. I posted the dyno graph from the '03 brochure yesterday. The specs are very close to the '02 and the car is 55-60 lbs. lighter (according to '02/'03 brochure). It felt slightly better balanced and I doubt that there will be a difference in performance.

Other than the engine the only other changes I see are the availability of the Xenon lights and a factory installed CD changer for $400 (the same exact unit and location as in '02, in the glovebox)

I think that all the concern about the new motor turns out to be unfounded. Allthough for htose that want to modify theirs the 2.3 probably give syou more options.

Greekgirl

Is the CD Changer for the 03 also compatible with the 02. $400 for the CD changed might be hard to pass up.

CME4BENZ

The '03 model is available with a Factory installed CD changer for $400. If you have the car already and have to have one installed at the dealer it is going to cost more.

chronopassion

Any thoughts on how much the $400 CD changer will cost those of us in 2002's? Maybe an extra $100 for installation?

CP

Buellwinkle

I thought the $400 changer is available from autoclass.net for $400.

viper

Some of those changes happened and some did not. And before you get off feeling so smart you better realize that the list was not specific to North America. I won't and can't defend how MB marketers decide what to do. My friend is a product engineer and back when I posted that the procurement team at MB made a list of changes for the model. However he thinks he jumped the gun at saying 2003 changes and now says they are life cycle changes that will occur at some time before the next product freshening. So he still stands by them and says most if not all will happen before the next major re-design.

I am also not going to post this type of information any more because some miscreant on this forum sent the change list to MBUSA asking for details. A few weeks later my friends department got some heat about product evolution information leaking out. He was not appreciative and neither am I.

young

personally, i appreciated the info/rumors as at least it was an interesting topic. but i hope you're not "blaming" other members for info that you posted in a public forum. trying to ascertain the validity of internet info should be encouraged.

cme4benz, thanks for the confirmations.

CME4BENZ

I think we all just need to realize that in this era of internet information nothing you read is gospel. I introduce the information as I get it from MB or from personal observation. I have learned a lot from this board as well.

Bottom line is that we need to take it all with a grain of salt.

avlis

That's more like it.

grn300m

Ragga, are you able to post some pics of your 2003? Inquiring minds want to know.

grn300m

CME4BENZ, any chance of you posting some pics of the 2003's? Maybe some views from front and rear quarters and a couple interior shots. Also, my dealer hasn't received any 2003 brochures, do you have access to a scanner to scan some of the specs on the cars?

I originally was concerned about the engine, but I have faith in MB and one of their top goals is to get back on top with JD Powers. So I feel confident in the engine, especially with the few testimonials coming from folks that seem to like it, or at least not knocking it too bad. I do not plan to modify the engine for HP gains, so I personally could care less about the lack of mods right now. I bet the Renntech already has a plan in place for some mods.

Thanks in advance!

CME4BENZ

There are NO exterior or interior changes for the '03 coupe.
I can take pics but the '02 and '03 are visually the same.

young

wait, are the headlights for the sedans clear? (hids/halogens or just the hids?)

the coupe headlights haven't changed to the projector style?

christian655321

the headlights for the '03 are the same as '02 no changes except for engine. As for the xeon lights for '03 my dealer is saying they are not available for the coupe.

CME4BENZ

THe xenons are listed as an option for the "03 coupe. We have '03 coupes in stock but none have come in yet with the xenons. If we get one with xenons i will be glad to post a pic.

christian655321

can you tell me how much that option costs? and will it be available to cars that did not orignally get them? and since i have not picked up my car yet, can i request that option be installed? thanks, i will also call my dealer and ask, which dealership do you work for?

CME4BENZ

xenon lights for C class is option code 172 / $750. It is a factory installed option and I don't believe they can be retrofitted on an '02. Have your dealer check his dealer ordering guide on netstar for '03 C class option list.

I am at Brandywine motor cars in West Chester PA (outside of Philly)

Keil Powell