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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Its Done- Home Depot Customized Intake for M271

So after the huge Intake thread and many debates I finally replaced the stock cloth hose with a PVC pipe, took out the baffles in the airbox and put in the K&N Filter. The Results? Minimal, which was sort of expected. There is a sound difference a sort of whoosh and more noticable SC whine, the engine sounds a little raspier. The difference is more noticable past 40 MPH and best at about 60, my guess is proving that the PVC pipe has a sort of short ram effect. Im still brainstorming on how to efficiently connect that second intake scoop, or just rob that big *** scoop from my friends Subaru STI, that would be cool too, I was thinking maybe connecting the box directly to the scoop thats closer but that would take a little more cutting. The project was very simple and didnt take too long. I have ALOT of left over PVC pipe if anybody in the NYC area wants, Home Depot made me buy the whole damn 10 foot pipe just to get a small piece. So far Ive put about 35 miles on the car with this new set up. I really dont know how much of the changes are just in my head, but it seems like a harmless thing, and it doesnt look AS ghetto as I thought. Im going to get some real nice looking clamps made for those ricers soon as i man up to spend 50 bucks on just those, and any idea where i can get couplers made for a car and not drainage?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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I'd try a speed shop or check out Summit's catalog.I'd also paint the pipe black. Maybe wrinkle paint Nice job
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Nice.. I wonder if it helps the engine at all.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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What was the total on those parts? And exactly which parts? (just throw up a picture of the receipt). Really doesn't look bad at all, congratulations. On our next dyno session we might as well try it and give you guys real numbers :\ - yes, we'll even try w/ and without the K&N probably.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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2-3" to 3" couplers and a 3" PVC Pipe, all in the plumbing section, total came to 26 dollars and change, the 3" couplers needed a few slices in the sides because they just barely dont fit around the plastic parts of the air hose. The cloth hose I simply cut off with a serated knife.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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PVC can melt and actually burn at relatively low temperatures. Not sure it's something I'd want next to my hot engine. PET would be better, but I still don't think I would do that.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Hmm, somone bold enough to do this. I apreciate you!

you should spray paint the hose black to give it more of an OEM look.

NICE JOB MAN! THANKS!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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PVC can melt and actually burn at relatively low temperatures. Not sure it's something I'd want next to my hot engine. PET would be better, but I still don't think I would do that.

I drove it hard last nite redlining and to 60, and then at 65-70 for 22 miles back from my friends house. So far so good, Ive been checkin up on it everytime I stop. I was thinking of heatwrapping it, maybe thatll help prevent those unwanted effects.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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I'd probably try something with stainless steel maybe w/ a brushed aluminum look. I'll see what I can dig up.

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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I'd probably try something with stainless steel maybe w/ a brushed aluminum look. I'll see what I can dig up.

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Please share any info you get with me so I can apply it too. Thanks.
Would having like exhaust pipe bent to shape work? and get the 2-1 from both airscoops to the airbox.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
I drove it hard last nite redlining and to 60, and then at 65-70 for 22 miles back from my friends house. So far so good, Ive been checkin up on it everytime I stop. I was thinking of heatwrapping it, maybe thatll help prevent those unwanted effects.
Heatwrapping would help.

After doing some searches, I have found that others have succeeded using PVC as you have without issue, so maybe I'm being a little too cautious. :p
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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maybe this has been covered before but i have an M111, why didnt you take out the whole box where the K&N is now and make a longer wider custom pipe with a K&N on the end? I'm going to be making my own custom intake too so I'm trying to make it most efficient by utilizing stock air inlet etc. I removed my air box and put a filter there in its place without a tube and I noticed a difference from just that in sound and response, my hood wouldnt close all the way so I need the piping
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Heatwrapping would help.

After doing some searches, I have found that others have succeeded using PVC as you have without issue, so maybe I'm being a little too cautious. :p

No such thing as too cautious. What plastic is the engine cover and airbox made from, its alot thinner, but there are no worries of it melting or anything, Id like to get my hands on a tube made from that.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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thats interesting, which home depot did u head to? the one at coney island and the one by kings plaza, ppl there got issues, and yeah, why didnt u check loews?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Just a tip if anyone else decides to do this. Go to a marine supply store and by 3" diameter silicon exhuast pipe. It will accomplish the same thing at a slightly raised price, but will only require 2 hose clamps and the hose comes in black, red, or blue and abviously handles heat well, as well as being a decent insulator.
And also if you can, boil a pot of water and stick the ends of the hose in there to soften it up and to expand it a little, it should go on easier.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Im going to check a marine supply store this weekend and possibly replace what Ive done, theres always room for improvement, I was just hoping that the pipe would resonate adding to the sound.
I went to Coney Island Home Depot, the guy was actually very nice and cut it to size after I payed for it, but its alright, I have a big old piece of PVC in my trunk incase I ever need to make a mortar??
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tedypedy
maybe this has been covered before but i have an M111, why didnt you take out the whole box where the K&N is now and make a longer wider custom pipe with a K&N on the end? I'm going to be making my own custom intake too so I'm trying to make it most efficient by utilizing stock air inlet etc. I removed my air box and put a filter there in its place without a tube and I noticed a difference from just that in sound and response, my hood wouldnt close all the way so I need the piping
Because you would be turning a well tuned COLD air intake into a HOT air intake. The stock M271 setup is really good - these are just minor improvements on an already good design.

Note: if your Home Depot sells "ABS" sewer pipe that would be optimal. Its the same dimentions as the PVC but insulates a lot better. It is what most of the plastic under your hood is made of - so its definately safe. Bonus - it comes black so you don't have to paint it.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Take the PVC pipe and make a "Spud Launcher". I've seen these kids make them using the PVC pipe and than shooting potatoes out of them.

All jokes aside, I think if you took the whole box assembly out and custom make a cold intake from the start of where the K&N filter starts would be awesome. But this would take a lot of custom aluminum piping and bends. I think some of the Ricer car pipes might do it. I'm going to look into it too since this has intrigued me as well. I remember owning a Maxima and a Honda and I had a Cold Air intake and the sound is great on acceleration.

What size is the K&N filter on the end? 3"

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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Take the PVC pipe and make a "Spud Launcher". I've seen these kids make them using the PVC pipe and than shooting potatoes out of them.

All jokes aside, I think if you took the whole box assembly out and custom make a cold intake from the start of where the K&N filter starts would be awesome. But this would take a lot of custom aluminum piping and bends. I think some of the Ricer car pipes might do it. I'm going to look into it too since this has intrigued me as well. I remember owning a Maxima and a Honda and I had a Cold Air intake and the sound is great on acceleration.

What size is the K&N filter on the end? 3"
I was planning on doing that just like the guy with the M111 did, however absolutely everyone on the forum said that would actually decrease performance so I followed some other advice that said to replace that and take out the baffles, the same guy also said to cut off the plastic grid before the MAF but Im a little scared to do that.
I did the Spud Launcher thing when I was a kid, except my friend and I used a grapefruit.
I was trying to get that ABS plastic but couldn't find it, prolly cause I didnt ask someone who actually knew what they were talking about, Ill try it when I figure out how to get that second scoop working. I had an idea but theres no space for it in the engine bay.
What if I got one of those battery powered fans used for kids in summer school and stuffed it in there? What would that do? I have lots of ideas, I couldnt sleep last night but in another week or so Ill come up with a solution of using that second scoop.
Question: Does the engine actually USE the access it has to the air? Is there a too much air?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Look into any aftermarket turbo installers, regardless of which vehicle they modify. They should be able to provide a solid pipe to insert into your engine. Most of the other members gave great ideas, just wanted to say you gave me a good laugh. I don't mean this as a negative comment at all, just admiring your creativity.
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Originally Posted by tedypedy
maybe this has been covered before but i have an M111, why didnt you take out the whole box where the K&N is now and make a longer wider custom pipe with a K&N on the end? I'm going to be making my own custom intake too so I'm trying to make it most efficient by utilizing stock air inlet etc. I removed my air box and put a filter there in its place without a tube and I noticed a difference from just that in sound and response, my hood wouldnt close all the way so I need the piping
What kind of filter did you use, I've removed the stock box and put in a cone filter, then me and Eason (another member) decided to pipe directly from the inlet to the cone, and it works great, keeps the air at least 10 degrees lower than the stock airbox.
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Question: Does the engine actually USE the access it has to the air? Is there a too much air?
No. Yes.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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What kind of filter did you use, I've removed the stock box and put in a cone filter, then me and Eason (another member) decided to pipe directly from the inlet to the cone, and it works great, keeps the air at least 10 degrees lower than the stock airbox.

Can you take pictures of your setup and whatever materials and anything you've used please.
And do you have a M111 or M271?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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go over to the other website for pics, m b k l a s s e . c o m, M111.
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Wait.... you guys don't have both intakes connected with hoses? I guess this is something new they did on the 06 engines....

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