that looks great. now just paint or vinyl the diffuser part 
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W203/CL203 Aftermarket Exhaust Thread - All you want to know
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Kinda? Dude, what you were "thinking" of doing would've cost you more than just buying the Weltmeister!...
Since obviously you don't want to spend any money on the setup, the easiest way for a shop to do a custom quad setup is do the piping EXACTLY like ROLLINN did. Only difference would be that you'd have to get an aftermarket muffler with dual exits. All the shop needs to do is weld piping for 1 exit, then for the other exit, they run the piping from that all the way to the other end where they'd weld dual exits on the other side (JUST LIKE THE WELTMEISTER DESIGN).
Again, you're making it WAY too complicated.
Since obviously you don't want to spend any money on the setup, the easiest way for a shop to do a custom quad setup is do the piping EXACTLY like ROLLINN did. Only difference would be that you'd have to get an aftermarket muffler with dual exits. All the shop needs to do is weld piping for 1 exit, then for the other exit, they run the piping from that all the way to the other end where they'd weld dual exits on the other side (JUST LIKE THE WELTMEISTER DESIGN).
Again, you're making it WAY too complicated.
they're cheaper than when I got'em now from performanceproducts.
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don't know what's going on with the price on performance products. they still list $995 for the weltmeister quad.
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Yeah, the Weltmesiter is listed at $995. But you can get 10-15% off from PP when they run their promo. I got mine at $895 and then an additional 15% off when I got bought mine 4 years ago. I still get their e-mails for the 15% off.
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Part# for resonated section of exhaust.
It is #4 on this diagram.
Or is anyone selling this section.
If I did my research right this should only be a straight pipe for these 2 years.
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Does anyone know what the part number is for the straight pipe section of exhaust for the 2003-2004 c230 kompressor sedan. I have the part# for the 2005 c230 kompressor sedan and as we know it has the secondary cat in this section.
It is #4 on this diagram.
Or is anyone selling this section.
If I did my research right this should only be a straight pipe for these 2 years.
It is #4 on this diagram.
Or is anyone selling this section.
If I did my research right this should only be a straight pipe for these 2 years.
My entire exhaust consisted of 3 parts. Headers + primary cat, piping w/ resonator, and piping attached to muffler.
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Does anyone know what the part number is for the straight pipe section of exhaust for the 2003-2004 c230 kompressor sedan. I have the part# for the 2005 c230 kompressor sedan and as we know it has the secondary cat in this section.
It is #4 on this diagram.
Or is anyone selling this section.
If I did my research right this should only be a straight pipe for these 2 years.
It is #4 on this diagram.
Or is anyone selling this section.
If I did my research right this should only be a straight pipe for these 2 years.
My entire exhaust consisted of 3 parts. Headers + primary cat, piping w/ resonator, and piping attached to muffler.
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So you are saying your car does not have the secondary cat like mine as per the diagram #4? That is what I though. I was at the dealer and the vin# for an 04 I gave them showed the same part as my 05? Is there a way you can see if you can get me a part # for that part from your car. Maybe you can call your dealer and give them your vin and tell them you think you need to replace that section of exhaust? I know yours is a 2004.5 so maybe this is why it is different. Either way if this is the case i really could use that straigh pipe on my car.
Do you have pics of your exhaust from that section?
Also you say you have piping with a resonator and then piping attached to the muffler. Where is the resonator installed. I though it was on the muffler section? See attached pics
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I know this whole exhaust thing is confusing. I just research the c7 coupe, aka evo package, and the difference was that didnt have a resonator, but they did have that secondary cat.
So you are saying your car does not have the secondary cat like mine as per the diagram #4? That is what I though. I was at the dealer and the vin# for an 04 I gave them showed the same part as my 05? Is there a way you can see if you can get me a part # for that part from your car. Maybe you can call your dealer and give them your vin and tell them you think you need to replace that section of exhaust? I know yours is a 2004.5 so maybe this is why it is different. Either way if this is the case i really could use that straigh pipe on my car.
Do you have pics of your exhaust from that section?
Also you say you have piping with a resonator and then piping attached to the muffler. Where is the resonator installed. I though it was on the muffler section? See attached pics
So you are saying your car does not have the secondary cat like mine as per the diagram #4? That is what I though. I was at the dealer and the vin# for an 04 I gave them showed the same part as my 05? Is there a way you can see if you can get me a part # for that part from your car. Maybe you can call your dealer and give them your vin and tell them you think you need to replace that section of exhaust? I know yours is a 2004.5 so maybe this is why it is different. Either way if this is the case i really could use that straigh pipe on my car.
Do you have pics of your exhaust from that section?
Also you say you have piping with a resonator and then piping attached to the muffler. Where is the resonator installed. I though it was on the muffler section? See attached pics
Basically, if I hadn't have done the resonator delete, it wouldn't be just piping from the primary cat back.
Let me repeat this 1 more time.
3 sections
- headers and primary cat
- mid pipe with resonator
- piping attached to muffler/exit
The part was replaced was the mid pipie w/ resonator. Now, it's just a straight pipe going to the muffler/exit.
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Only reason I have straight piping w/o a resonator is because I did a resonator delete. Look through my history thread. MJ had some pics that he posted up when I did the dual exhaust.
Basically, if I hadn't have done the resonator delete, it wouldn't be just piping from the primary cat back.
Let me repeat this 1 more time.
3 sections
- headers and primary cat
- mid pipe with resonator
- piping attached to muffler/exit
The part was replaced was the mid pipie w/ resonator. Now, it's just a straight pipe going to the muffler/exit.
Basically, if I hadn't have done the resonator delete, it wouldn't be just piping from the primary cat back.
Let me repeat this 1 more time.
3 sections
- headers and primary cat
- mid pipe with resonator
- piping attached to muffler/exit
The part was replaced was the mid pipie w/ resonator. Now, it's just a straight pipe going to the muffler/exit.
The mid section you are talking about connects with the flange at the primary cat and then bends around to the drive side and then connect with another flange towards the middle of the car, right? If this is correct I can really use that part number for that section since a resonator should be cheaper than a cat.
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Ok I follow that. So if you were to go to the dealership and order your mid pipe with resonator what section would that be on the diagram I provided. I was thinking #4. My car has the mid pipe with the secondary cat. I was trying to order your part with the resonator, it would be cheap than with the cat, but it was the same part number for the 04 and 05 sedans.
The mid section you are talking about connects with the flange at the primary cat and then bends around to the drive side and then connect with another flange towards the middle of the car, right? If this is correct I can really use that part number for that section since a resonator should be cheaper than a cat.
The mid section you are talking about connects with the flange at the primary cat and then bends around to the drive side and then connect with another flange towards the middle of the car, right? If this is correct I can really use that part number for that section since a resonator should be cheaper than a cat.
Try 203 409 0101. That's the number on the bottom or the resonator.
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Here is the stock flange I was talking about. Odd 2 bolt flange.
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05.C230K.SS
I got a question for you guys. I heard that it's pointless to get an exhaust system for the 05 C230K SS simply because it has a I4 engine, and if I do get an exhaust system installed on that, I won't like the sound of the car?
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I have a custom cat-back dual exit Kleemann. Piping is only 2.5-2.75 from the cat-back.
It all depends on the muffler you go with, diameter of the piping, etc... There are some setups that end up sounding more tinny and/or "ricey."
Just gotta choose wisely and you'll end up with a nice sounding exhaust.
Only thing it is "pointless" for is if you expect to gain any significant power. At most, I'd say someone can gain 1-2 hp (AT MOST) if at all.
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That's not necessarily true. I love the sound of my car. It's somewhat quiet at idle, at WOT it has a deep bass sound and definitely not tinny or "ricey" (as some would put it).
I have a custom cat-back dual exit Kleemann. Piping is only 2.5-2.75 from the cat-back.
It all depends on the muffler you go with, diameter of the piping, etc... There are some setups that end up sounding more tinny and/or "ricey."
Just gotta choose wisely and you'll end up with a nice sounding exhaust.
Only thing it is "pointless" for is if you expect to gain any significant power. At most, I'd say someone can gain 1-2 hp (AT MOST) if at all.
I have a custom cat-back dual exit Kleemann. Piping is only 2.5-2.75 from the cat-back.
It all depends on the muffler you go with, diameter of the piping, etc... There are some setups that end up sounding more tinny and/or "ricey."
Just gotta choose wisely and you'll end up with a nice sounding exhaust.
Only thing it is "pointless" for is if you expect to gain any significant power. At most, I'd say someone can gain 1-2 hp (AT MOST) if at all.
What was your setup, specifically? And do you mind sharing how much installation and labor cost?
oh and btw what suspension parts did you install, cuz it seems like your ride is "balanced" and not like a tractor.
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Yes, I mind sharing the cost on installation and labor...LOL...Only because My car is all over the w203 forum, if you just search. I'm party of the $15K club when it comes to mods (I'm sure you'll understand, the more you read through the forums).
Um, check the AFTERMARKET / D.I.Y MODS STICKY. That has a tremendous amount of links that you can read through, and bump if necessary, to ask your questions. There is a thread in particular that is called SUSPENSION THREAD that you can bump and ask.
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I'm looking for a little more grunt from the exhaust. Yes, i could've gone with a new muffler but i already got some nice tips welded on to the stock one and it looks pretty good. I've heard that removing the resonator doesn't make much of a difference in sound with the stock muffler but what if i were to remove both the resonator and the secondary cats? Or maybe just the cats? I live in FL so i'm not worried about emissions tests. IIRC the backpressure issue is only a bigger deal on the forced induction cars. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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I'm looking for a little more grunt from the exhaust. Yes, i could've gone with a new muffler but i already got some nice tips welded on to the stock one and it looks pretty good. I've heard that removing the resonator doesn't make much of a difference in sound with the stock muffler but what if i were to remove both the resonator and the secondary cats? Or maybe just the cats? I live in FL so i'm not worried about emissions tests. IIRC the backpressure issue is only a bigger deal on the forced induction cars. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Thanks in anticipation!!!
BTW..My engine is stock. I would just like a little more flow and just a bit of sound out the exhaust...not loud!
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I just installed a Brabus cat-back exhaust system on my car. I love the way it sounds! It has a nice stock sound. It is very quiet on idle, but when you hit the gas, it has a nice tone-downed throaty note. The only thing I don't like about the exhaust, are the muffler tips. They are hideous to me! I'm going to have them replaced with the Brabus straight-thru tips. I wish they wouldn't have made the C-Class muffler tips slanted. They might work for some people, but for me, their ugly! Here are some pics....
