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CL203 Coupe Pano-roof Maintenance - MB lube Grease Part #s, gears, & fixes

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Old 08-06-2008, 04:09 PM
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Almost have the pdf complete. I need to take a few picures that I did not have before and I might have discovered a short cut to a fix if my hunch is correct. What I ned to know is how do I post a pdf to the forum.. looking at the icons I can't find an attach doc fnction. unless I usee the insert picture and treat the pdf like a picture. please advise. tks
I attached a jpg with a red circle around the attachment button. Just click on that and browse to your pdf file
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I searched but could not find the thread on these clips. Anybody have a part number?
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I searched but could not find the thread on these clips. Anybody have a part number?
how about this...go to www.buymbparts.com and talk to rusty...tell him you want those sun shade clips that Mario Cooper just ordered...that should work...I havent recieved the clips yet but I will repost when they ge ti tot let you know if they are the right ones.
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Originally Posted by maccooper79
how about this...go to www.buymbparts.com and talk to rusty...tell him you want those sun shade clips that Mario Cooper just ordered...that should work...I havent recieved the clips yet but I will repost when they ge ti tot let you know if they are the right ones.
ok I got the part its the right thing...I dont have a part number but it was cust order # 0801cbmb
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I attached a jpg with a red circle around the attachment button. Just click on that and browse to your pdf file
Any luck yet?
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Those whose panos won't open, does the tilt up feature still work? The sunshades? Just curious. Also, is the tilt feature powered by the same motor?
My tilt and sun shade work fine but the the roof will not slide open. I heard a crunch one day last year, and it no longer opens more than an inch or two. I guess I'm going to have to take down the headliner and see what is wrong. I saw a pic above where someone had access to the motor with the headliner in place. How did they get the motor. I refuse to spend 3K to fix it so I can sell it.
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Pano good as new, almost

My sunshade was stuck open, since my pano wouldn't fully close. MB dealer told me there was a problem with the rails (upwards of $2k to fix), but when the motor was replaced it works fine luckily.
Except after a few days a piece of plastic broke and fell off of the track for the rear sunshade and now its stuck open, but as everything else works, I don't feel like spending the time or money to fix just the rear sunshade
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I'm really psyched. I finally took a look at the problem and it turns out to be a broken wind deflector bracket that was jaming the sun roof when it got two inches open. I start another thread on the repair with Pics.
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Originally Posted by TNblkc230wz
I'm really psyched. I finally took a look at the problem and it turns out to be a broken wind deflector bracket that was jaming the sun roof when it got two inches open. I start another thread on the repair with Pics.
WHERE?
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Originally Posted by aad05g
My sunshade was stuck open, since my pano wouldn't fully close. MB dealer told me there was a problem with the rails (upwards of $2k to fix), but when the motor was replaced it works fine luckily.
Except after a few days a piece of plastic broke and fell off of the track for the rear sunshade and now its stuck open, but as everything else works, I don't feel like spending the time or money to fix just the rear sunshade
Oh I can tell you where to get that plastic clip if you can tell me how to fix that motor with pics
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2002 C230K pano roof problems

I had the pano roof cleaned and lubed at my local dealer. When I attempted to open it, the shade opened fine but the roof did not open. It finally opened after 6-7 attempts but only 2-3" at a time. I closed the roof but then the shade would not close. I opened the roof half-way then tried to close it. It closed to within 3" of totally closed then a loud grinding noise came from the switch console and it stopped. I tried to manually close the roof, but still got the grinding noise.
The cleaning/lubing was preventative. Could that have caused the pano roof problems (or coincidence)? I don't know how deeply into the guts of the roof they go. The roof worked fine prior. Thanks.
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Yes, the new lube might have released old dirt and might have caused your troubles. I beleive there's a thread here somewhere that shows how to clean and service the tracks. Do a search or take it back to the dealer and explain to them that it started giving you trouble after they lubed and serviced it.
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thanks

I plan on returning to the dealer tomorrow (Mon) if it is not raining. I still have MB extended warranty.
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I plan on returning to the dealer tomorrow (Mon) if it is not raining. I still have MB extended warranty.

There you go! Answered your own question...
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Hi Guys,

Got a new to me C230 with InOp Sunroof.
I have searched the forums and still have not found a Flow Chart or Step by Step diagnosis on the Pano Roof.
Any help would be great, haven't got the Repair CD yet.

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to my knowledge there are none...but there have been ample promises to post... I havent had time with this damn job to look at the stupid CD...but I owuld gladly send it to you for a few bucks and a promise to post the step by step repair instrustions.
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send me a copy, and part numbers for the gears or the motor and i will do a DIY on it.
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Originally Posted by maccooper79
to my knowledge there are none...but there have been ample promises to post... I havent had time with this damn job to look at the stupid CD...but I owuld gladly send it to you for a few bucks and a promise to post the step by step repair instrustions.
Hi Mac,

I would gladly send you a few bucks and post the repair up on here.
If you like send me your Paypal.
As a newbie i searched the threads but could not find the Diagnosis.
I tried resequencing but to no avail.
The roof does nothing, no gears grinding and any noise.
I saved the fuse charts that someone else posted up yesterday to check those, but i can hear a click so don't think it is that.
Figure i might as well learn to fix the roof as it seams that they go bad often from what i have read.
I was thinking about manually cranking it open, but wanted to read the factory info first before i break something expensive!
Other than that the car needs a "B" Service, Pogo fixed on drivers side, Cabin Filter housing is missing, Cup Holder, minor stuff.

Thanks,
Dave
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Try closing the interior shade all the way . It may take a few jogs of the button to get it all the way closed . This may reset the window ,it worked on mine, it's kind of like the door windows need to be fully closed for them to resinc. good luck
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any one fix their roof yet?
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I found that the dealer that i bought mine from disconnected the wiring up at the interior light control.
I plugged the wiring back in and now the Sunroof Motor makes a stripping noise.
So i guess i need a Sunroof Motor Gear to start.

Does anyone know if you can now buy just the Gear separately?

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drb930.
PM me an email address. I have some pdf's to send you on the pano roof, too big to post.

And others have been through this I think...
didn't emrliquidlife fix his?

FYI- A small tidbit of info, the sunroof is made by a company called
Webasto. Looks like they have authorized dealers all over the US! It's possible individual parts might be had through them
http://www.webastoshowroom.com


I know this because when the dealer replaced mine it had a plastic piece under the wind deflector with the word "Webasto" on it.

I always wondered what the hell Webasto meant...and then I saw just recently on "Pimp my ride" they were installing a Webasto sunroof on a freakin' AMC Pacer. I always wonder about that show....they fix up wrecks and leave the mechanicals untouched.

Do a search on the B service.
Easy to do yourself.

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Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup
drb930.
PM me an email address. I have some pdf's to send you on the pano roof, too big to post.

And others have been through this I think...
didn't emrliquidlife fix his?

FYI- A small tidbit of info, the sunroof is made by a company called
Webasto. Looks like they have authorized dealers all over the US! It's possible individual parts might be had through them
http://www.webastoshowroom.com


I know this because when the dealer replaced mine it had a plastic piece under the wind deflector with the word "Webasto" on it.

I always wondered what the hell Webasto meant...and then I saw just recently on "Pimp my ride" they were installing a Webasto sunroof on a freakin' AMC Pacer. I always wonder about that show....they fix up wrecks and leave the mechanicals untouched.

Do a search on the B service.
Easy to do yourself.
Yeah - Webasto have to be the oldest sliding roof company on the planet. They are a German company with a history that goes back to 1901. While they built car heaters & all sorts of things the 1st time I took note was when the Aston Martin DB6 became available with a Webasto Roof in 1965. I had one fitted to one of my early Alfa's
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Todd,

Wanted to make sure you got my thank you i sent in an e-mail.

Thanks,
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were you able to fix it, i need to replace the gears on mine


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