View Poll Results: Opinion of the Panorama Roof
The Panorama Roof is a Necessity
107
75.35%
Take it or Leave it, I don't care
12
8.45%
Forget it, Spend your money on a Pulley
23
16.20%
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CL203 Coupe Pano-roof Maintenance - MB lube Grease Part #s, gears, & fixes
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Joined: Dec 2001
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
White C230 Coupe, Leather, Evolution, Panorama, Heated seats, Bose, Factory Alarm
My entire Roof creaks in the winter after washing my car. The water gets in between the cracks and freezes and it will creak for a day or 2.
On super cold days, my brake pads gets frozen to the rotors whenever I wash my car too. This only happens if I washed my car and then drive it straight home.
So far.. no creaking on the very HOT days... was super hot only 2-3 weeks ago....
and now its FREEZING..!!!! aarrrggghhhh... feels like FALL and we are only in August.
On super cold days, my brake pads gets frozen to the rotors whenever I wash my car too. This only happens if I washed my car and then drive it straight home.
So far.. no creaking on the very HOT days... was super hot only 2-3 weeks ago....
and now its FREEZING..!!!! aarrrggghhhh... feels like FALL and we are only in August.
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Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 678
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From: Vancouver WA
'14 GLK250 Diesel
Roof Noises
These kinds of noises are common, and not just with MB - it's a common complaint with Hondas, and the solution is the same - a good thorough going-over with some silicone spray on a rag or paper towel does the trick. Applied to the door rubbers, this also cured a persistent creak in the doors of our W202 C-sedan [a '94 C220].
You'll note that different people recommend different 'juices', but the common solution is to get the rubber clean and reasonably slippery, without making it greasy [which just attracts more dirt].
You'll note that different people recommend different 'juices', but the common solution is to get the rubber clean and reasonably slippery, without making it greasy [which just attracts more dirt].
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From: S. Fla., U.S.A.
2002 C230K Sport Coupe
No creaks
The roof on my c coupe is much quieter than I expected it to be. I was real leery of the panoramic roof because I expected the sun shades to fail (they haven't) and the roof to be noisy (it isn't) or to stick (it hasn't). Note: While my car is exposed to salt air, it is parked under cover 99% of the time, and I do keep it rinsed off, so it does not get exposed to as much grit and temp extremes as some cars.
Deb
Deb
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From: SF
2007 VW GTI
Re: Roof Noises
Originally posted by jrct9454
These kinds of noises are common, and not just with MB - it's a common complaint with Hondas, and the solution is the same - a good thorough going-over with some silicone spray on a rag or paper towel does the trick. Applied to the door rubbers, this also cured a persistent creak in the doors of our W202 C-sedan [a '94 C220].
You'll note that different people recommend different 'juices', but the common solution is to get the rubber clean and reasonably slippery, without making it greasy [which just attracts more dirt].
These kinds of noises are common, and not just with MB - it's a common complaint with Hondas, and the solution is the same - a good thorough going-over with some silicone spray on a rag or paper towel does the trick. Applied to the door rubbers, this also cured a persistent creak in the doors of our W202 C-sedan [a '94 C220].
You'll note that different people recommend different 'juices', but the common solution is to get the rubber clean and reasonably slippery, without making it greasy [which just attracts more dirt].
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From: Illinois
'04 Mars Red C230K 6 sp.
Originally posted by RedC230K
Yes.. or Menards. I'm gonna go try it right now. Will post results later.
Yes.. or Menards. I'm gonna go try it right now. Will post results later.
No noise!!
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From: SF
2007 VW GTI
the silicon spray i bought was made by "Gunk" -- it's in a yellow aerosol bottle.
i applied it using a shop towel to my sunroof seals and metal joints, as well as in the sliding tracks. the noise from the roof is gone.
however, i also applied it to the edges of the aluminum in the center console (where the cup holder is) between the aluminum and the black "leather" on each side. i have a lot of cracks & pops from that area. the spray did not help this at all.
i applied it using a shop towel to my sunroof seals and metal joints, as well as in the sliding tracks. the noise from the roof is gone.
however, i also applied it to the edges of the aluminum in the center console (where the cup holder is) between the aluminum and the black "leather" on each side. i have a lot of cracks & pops from that area. the spray did not help this at all.
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Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 54
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From: Central NJ
C230 Kompressor
Is anyone's panorama roof creaking while closed?
My roof makes a creaking noise while closed and going over bumps. I've already had it in once and was told the problem was fixed, but of course the roof still makes the noise. Closing the sun shades helps greatly to mask the noise.
Has anyone else noticed this problem?
Larry
Has anyone else noticed this problem?
Larry
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From: NJ
'05 c240 4matic wagon
Mine did for the first time last week, but only once. It doesn't seem to persist. I have to note that it was a very hot, humid day in the Northeast. I hope it won't do it again. Sounds unnerving.
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From: Nashua, NH
2008 VW GTI
Simply keep the seal clean. I consider it regular maintainance and something that should be done even if there is no noise. Mine seems to need a wipe every 4000 miles, but I try to do it when I clean the interior of the car. Don't forget to clean the underside of the glass panel where it contacts the seal.
For the record: I've never re-lubed the tracks nor applied any silicone-goop to the seal and the creaking noise goes away for 4000 miles. I just clean it with the windex-rag that I used on the glass.
For the record: I've never re-lubed the tracks nor applied any silicone-goop to the seal and the creaking noise goes away for 4000 miles. I just clean it with the windex-rag that I used on the glass.
Last edited by avlis; Aug 9, 2002 at 10:10 AM.
Out Of Control!!
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From: Westwood, NJ
2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
Originally posted by C230Jeff
Do a search
Do a search
I propose a new acronym for this board: STFF. Hopefully, I won't have to spell out what it means.
Out Of Control!!
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From: Westwood, NJ
2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
Originally posted by C230Jeff
Whaddya mean "Do a search - what's that" ????Are you serious? Duh. Searching these forums is the easiest way to get exactly the answers you're looking for, although I admit I doubt I'd find STFF ... ok, I'll bite...
Whaddya mean "Do a search - what's that" ????Are you serious? Duh. Searching these forums is the easiest way to get exactly the answers you're looking for, although I admit I doubt I'd find STFF ... ok, I'll bite...
???? That's the universal sign for sarcasm, which I need quite often. Since you can't figure it out, it would be: Search The F***ing Forum. I thought that was pretty easy to decypher.
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From: NJ
'05 c240 4matic wagon
Originally posted by tommy
Huh? What's that?
I propose a new acronym for this board: STFF. Hopefully, I won't have to spell out what it means.
Huh? What's that?
I propose a new acronym for this board: STFF. Hopefully, I won't have to spell out what it means.
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From: North Berkeley
C230 C-Coupe
The Roof
Today my wife took our C-Coupe for Service A. Previously I took the car in because of a fuel issue, I also got them to listen to the roof noises, and they fixed it temporarily.
Since the car is in again I asked them to resolve this issue again, but they claim that silicon spray is the only fix. I have done this myself every other car wash and it doesn't really help.
Searching through the threads, I notice some have fixed this. So the point of this thread is to determine what the solutions hav ebeen so that I can present some other possible fixes.
Thanks
Nathan
Since the car is in again I asked them to resolve this issue again, but they claim that silicon spray is the only fix. I have done this myself every other car wash and it doesn't really help.
Searching through the threads, I notice some have fixed this. So the point of this thread is to determine what the solutions hav ebeen so that I can present some other possible fixes.
Thanks
Nathan
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From: Ohio
2010 C300 4matic
Are you talking about the roof squeaking over bumps? If so, I would like to know the fix for that too. I work for the dealer and they haven't done it before, but they said (optimistically) that they can fix anything, it's just a matter of whether or not I want the car taken apart. So I've lived with it so far. I've seen too many taken apart just to fix sunshades.
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From: Canada
Originally posted by Enze6997
I have the same problem... it sucks... I am just going to keep returning it until they get annoyed.
This is along side of a similar noise coming from my door.
I have the same problem... it sucks... I am just going to keep returning it until they get annoyed.
This is along side of a similar noise coming from my door.
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From: North Berkeley
C230 C-Coupe
Yes I am talking about the infamous roof noise problem.
I believe that someone said they had the rails replaced, and that fixed the problem.
Anyone else claim to have had this fixed by MB?
Nathan
I believe that someone said they had the rails replaced, and that fixed the problem.
Anyone else claim to have had this fixed by MB?
Nathan
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From: UK
Wished I'd never had Pan roof!!!
I have had my 03 evo pan coupe for almost a year now and boy oh boy do I wish I had never had the panorama sunroof!!
Yes, it looks great and makes the interior really light and airy.
But creaking/squeaking noises are driving me nuts!
It has been back to the dealer twice. I don't know what they do to it, but it stops the noise for just a few weeks only.
I have heard some people say - just keeping lubricating the seals. But should I have to do this on this quality of car?
If it continues, I am seriously thinking of getting rid of it!
GRRRRRRRRRRR
Yes, it looks great and makes the interior really light and airy.
But creaking/squeaking noises are driving me nuts!
It has been back to the dealer twice. I don't know what they do to it, but it stops the noise for just a few weeks only.
I have heard some people say - just keeping lubricating the seals. But should I have to do this on this quality of car?
If it continues, I am seriously thinking of getting rid of it!
GRRRRRRRRRRR
