C-Class (S203/W203) 4MATIC thread - All you want to know
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2005 C230 Sedan 6spd
If you can affort 4Matic w/ Snow tires, sounds like an excellent combo why not?
For those of you on a budget 4Matic w/ all season is not too bad either, of course is not as good.
One thing is AWD only helps you GO, and Corner. AWD does NOT help your car stop. Only your tire will help your car stop when it comes to snow.
For those of you on a budget 4Matic w/ all season is not too bad either, of course is not as good.
One thing is AWD only helps you GO, and Corner. AWD does NOT help your car stop. Only your tire will help your car stop when it comes to snow.
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E550 4MATIC
If you can affort 4Matic w/ Snow tires, sounds like an excellent combo why not?
For those of you on a budget 4Matic w/ all season is not too bad either, of course is not as good.
One thing is AWD only helps you GO, and Corner. AWD does NOT help your car stop. Only your tire will help your car stop when it comes to snow.
For those of you on a budget 4Matic w/ all season is not too bad either, of course is not as good.
One thing is AWD only helps you GO, and Corner. AWD does NOT help your car stop. Only your tire will help your car stop when it comes to snow.
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Black 04 C230 Kompressor SS
Here's another good video of AWD systems
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6503&q=Quattro
My only experience with 4Matic would be our ML vs my Quattro. I feel that the 4Matic system allows a little too much slippage before engaging whereas my Quattro is instant. Perhaps its the mechanical (Quattro) system vs the electronic system (4Matic) Nonetheless, both systems are excellent for snowy weather
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6503&q=Quattro
My only experience with 4Matic would be our ML vs my Quattro. I feel that the 4Matic system allows a little too much slippage before engaging whereas my Quattro is instant. Perhaps its the mechanical (Quattro) system vs the electronic system (4Matic) Nonetheless, both systems are excellent for snowy weather
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From: Belleville, NJ
2003 C240 4matic trade-in...
grettings all, i went to get my car appraised for a trade in yest and was offered $17,300... it has 45k miles on it... does this sound like a good deal or am i getting ripped???
KBB has the car in excellent condition for $17,300 but edmunds.com is telling me $17,891... initially they only offered me $15,981 but i had to fight to get at least $17,300... should i be walking to another dealership or should i be lucky enough i am able to get excellent price on a trade in since KBB says only 5% of cars fall within this category...
thanks everyone...
KBB has the car in excellent condition for $17,300 but edmunds.com is telling me $17,891... initially they only offered me $15,981 but i had to fight to get at least $17,300... should i be walking to another dealership or should i be lucky enough i am able to get excellent price on a trade in since KBB says only 5% of cars fall within this category...
thanks everyone...
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MB
I highly doubt it will go privately for 18. People are not stupid and before buying a car look into KBB. At least I am talking from my previous experience, but I might be wrong in both ways
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4MATIC Drop
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'08 E550 4Matic
As of right now no company offers springs for the 4 matics.
Dnasty8305 and I sent Vogtland an OEM spring. They are currently doing R&D and will have lowering springs for us by the end of February.
Dnasty8305 and I sent Vogtland an OEM spring. They are currently doing R&D and will have lowering springs for us by the end of February.
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Midnight Blue 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan. 2002 w210 E320, 2009 w211 E350 Sport
You didn't look hard enough
LINK: Thread started last month regarding 4-matic springs
The search words I used, "4-Matic springs"
Advanced search only in the w203 forum.
Please re-read "how to search" thread made by MB-BOB.
LINK: Thread started last month regarding 4-matic springs
The search words I used, "4-Matic springs"
Advanced search only in the w203 forum.
Please re-read "how to search" thread made by MB-BOB.
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C3Twon AWD Jumpofffff
I cant wait i'm glad i have atleast the stock sport suspension for now... i dont plan on slamming my car but i want to atleast have it an inch or more lowered than i can get some rims
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2006 C55 AMG, 2.8L Quattro, Softail Nostalgia 1550 (Stage III), Sporster (slammed)
3.0L C280 4MATIC Spins 2nd: am I crazy?!?
Car is an '06 C280 4Matic, 3.0L, 5-speed auto. Coming home from the store this evening I was approaching a red light. I had down shifted the 5-speed auto from 3rd to 2nd as I rolled up. At about 10 mph and still in 2nd and engine braking, the light turned green so I tromped it (floor button and all, just for grins). It started going but quickly kicked down into 1st which it doesn't do too often if I'm already rolling over 10 or 15. So it jumped forward hard. I pushed it up a gear on the stick just in case (I didn't want to be holding it in 2nd because things were happening pretty quickly all of a sudden), it shot up to the red-line like always and shifted into second--a nice hard, crisp shift at just about max RPM. Then something weird happened. It kind of fell on it's face for a half-second like the rev limiter or traction control was braking or pulling spark out. Then it came back on the power quickly and took off again--screaming along nicely. Now with the auto (even holding it down a gear) it will up-shift and not over rev no matter what you do so I didn't think it was the rev limiter. But it sure felt like a rev limiter. And it was chilly but the roads were dry and clear so it wasn't ice or sand or gravel. What's up with that? Did it spin the tires going into 2nd so EPS kicked in? I don't remember seeing the EPS light flash on or anything. And I've never had it even bark the tires going into 2nd although it feels like it could sometimes. What do you think happened?
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2002 C32, 2011 VW GTI
Car is an '06 C280 4Matic, 3.0L, 5-speed auto. Coming home from the store this evening I was approaching a red light. I had down shifted the 5-speed auto from 3rd to 2nd as I rolled up. At about 10 mph and still in 2nd and engine braking, the light turned green so I tromped it (floor button and all, just for grins). It started going but quickly kicked down into 1st which it doesn't do too often if I'm already rolling over 10 or 15. So it jumped forward hard. I pushed it up a gear on the stick just in case (I didn't want to be holding it in 2nd because things were happening pretty quickly all of a sudden), it shot up to the red-line like always and shifted into second--a nice hard, crisp shift at just about max RPM. Then something weird happened. It kind of fell on it's face for a half-second like the rev limiter or traction control was braking or pulling spark out. Then it came back on the power quickly and took off again--screaming along nicely. Now with the auto (even holding it down a gear) it will up-shift and not over rev no matter what you do so I didn't think it was the rev limiter. But it sure felt like a rev limiter. And it was chilly but the roads were dry and clear so it wasn't ice or sand or gravel. What's up with that? Did it spin the tires going into 2nd so EPS kicked in? I don't remember seeing the EPS light flash on or anything. And I've never had it even bark the tires going into 2nd although it feels like it could sometimes. What do you think happened?
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2006 C350 4MATIC
Hi everyone,
I'm considering getting a 2006 C350 4matic. I can't seem to find much information regarding this vehicle other than the fact that it has a 5 speed automatic. Any input would be much appreciated etc. reliablity, problems, regrets...
thanks,
Dan
I'm considering getting a 2006 C350 4matic. I can't seem to find much information regarding this vehicle other than the fact that it has a 5 speed automatic. Any input would be much appreciated etc. reliablity, problems, regrets...
thanks,
Dan
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E53
where have you been looking? I think this new webpage called google.com is pretty good. check it out...
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Thanks for the helpful reply sanf. 
I DID try google but it mostly came up with information about the C350...not the 4matic. Most sites only mention that the 4matic comes with a 5 speed automatic. No need to be sarcastic. I also thought that it would be informative to get first hand information from owners themselves.
I DID try google but it mostly came up with information about the C350...not the 4matic. Most sites only mention that the 4matic comes with a 5 speed automatic. No need to be sarcastic. I also thought that it would be informative to get first hand information from owners themselves.
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ha, just couldnt help it. anyway, what kind of info are you looking for? hp? basic specs?
C classes are pretty solid. it all depends on your luck. some Cs are built better than the other but that's the same as every other car.
You wont be disappointed with the C350's power. But if you were into looks as well, you might want to consider the C350 Sport instead of the 4matic.
C classes are pretty solid. it all depends on your luck. some Cs are built better than the other but that's the same as every other car.
You wont be disappointed with the C350's power. But if you were into looks as well, you might want to consider the C350 Sport instead of the 4matic.
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2002 c32
Can't get C320 4MATIC Wagon rims off
So I'm doing a brake job for about zillionth time, but first time on this car - usually I do it on my C32, S4, or Suburban - no big deal. So on my wife's C320 4matic Wagon, I can't get the farking wheels off. I took the lug bolts off and the wheels just won't budge. Is there some trick - like...pull harder?...
Anyways, just want to make sure I'm not missing some trick and of course she's done the Owner's-Manual-relocate-because-it's-bad-feng-shui-mod.
Any guidance appreciated. Thanks!
Bif
Anyways, just want to make sure I'm not missing some trick and of course she's done the Owner's-Manual-relocate-because-it's-bad-feng-shui-mod.
Any guidance appreciated. Thanks!
Bif
