Stuck in Snow ..leave ESP ON or OFF
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Stuck in Snow ..leave ESP ON or OFF
I've read several threads on this forum for c230 coupes getting stuck or not being able to get moving after a stop in snow. Some suggest turning ESP OFF and some suggest turning ESP ON .
When I've tried to drive away in snow from a stopped position, sometimes the brakes get applied and the car doesn't move.
Thoughts ?
When I've tried to drive away in snow from a stopped position, sometimes the brakes get applied and the car doesn't move.
Thoughts ?
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Get some good winter tires, if you're planning on driving in snow. And leave ESP on.
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I would leave ESP on, but if that results in the car not being movable at all, then I would turn ESP off and "rock" the car with the accelerator until I got some momentum going... then turn ESP back on once moving.
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
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Originally posted by MB-BOB
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
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You'll have to turn it off if you're stuck. I tried it both ways after getting stuck in about 6" in an unplowed parking lot Christmas Day. ESP is great in slick conditions, but if you're stuck, it kicks in too much to get any momemtum going to rock out. I've got the C7 package w/ the Conti's, and those are the absolute worst tires in snow-thought I was in a disco my ESP light was flashing so much!
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These rear wheel drive MB seem like they will not be good in snow. We have had some snow and I am already thinking that I am going to have problems as it does not take a lot for the wheels to be spinning and being auto will make it worse. This is where I wish I still had my front wheel drive car.
These rear wheel drive MB seem like they will not be good in snow. We have had some snow and I am already thinking that I am going to have problems as it does not take a lot for the wheels to be spinning and being auto will make it worse. This is where I wish I still had my front wheel drive car.
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Originally posted by MB-BOB
I would leave ESP on, but if that results in the car not being movable at all, then I would turn ESP off and "rock" the car with the accelerator until I got some momentum going... then turn ESP back on once moving.
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
I would leave ESP on, but if that results in the car not being movable at all, then I would turn ESP off and "rock" the car with the accelerator until I got some momentum going... then turn ESP back on once moving.
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
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Performance summer tires just don't work on snow or ice.
If you're driving in those conditions, switch to proper winter tires, please. They work wonderfuly, trust me.
If you prefer having a separate set of wheels with winter tires, do that.
But don't complain that C7 tires don't grip in show. Guess what? They're not supposed to !!!
Performance summer tires just don't work on snow or ice.
If you're driving in those conditions, switch to proper winter tires, please. They work wonderfuly, trust me.
If you prefer having a separate set of wheels with winter tires, do that.
But don't complain that C7 tires don't grip in show. Guess what? They're not supposed to !!!
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Performance summer tires just don't work on snow or ice.
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Performance summer tires just don't work on snow or ice.
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Originally posted by VoyagerDude
Guys and Girls
Performance summer tires just don't work on snow or ice.
If you're driving in those conditions, switch to proper winter tires, please. They work wonderfuly, trust me.
If you prefer having a separate set of wheels with winter tires, do that.
But don't complain that C7 tires don't grip in show. Guess what? They're not supposed to !!!
Guys and Girls
Performance summer tires just don't work on snow or ice.
If you're driving in those conditions, switch to proper winter tires, please. They work wonderfuly, trust me.
If you prefer having a separate set of wheels with winter tires, do that.
But don't complain that C7 tires don't grip in show. Guess what? They're not supposed to !!!
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Why do people complain about this kind of stuff when they a running with the C7 tires? They are SUMMER ONLY tires. Even on dry pavement when it gets cold the get slick...compound gets hard at low temps. Seriously...the dealer must have mentioned it a dozen times when I stated that I wanted a Coupe with the C7 package.
And then everyone moans about it being rear drive.......uggh! With the big fat michelin Pilots on your old FWD car you wouldn't go anywhere either.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Outland
[B]VoyagerDude:
Why do people complain about this kind of stuff when they a running with the C7 tires? They are SUMMER ONLY tires. Even on dry pavement when it gets cold the get slick...compound gets hard at low temps. Seriously...the dealer must have mentioned it a dozen times when I stated that I wanted a Coupe with the C7 package.
My dealer never mentioned to me once that they were summer- only tires. I realized that after i got the car.
[B]VoyagerDude:
Why do people complain about this kind of stuff when they a running with the C7 tires? They are SUMMER ONLY tires. Even on dry pavement when it gets cold the get slick...compound gets hard at low temps. Seriously...the dealer must have mentioned it a dozen times when I stated that I wanted a Coupe with the C7 package.
My dealer never mentioned to me once that they were summer- only tires. I realized that after i got the car.
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Originally posted by MB-BOB
Here we go again with the great RWD/FWD snow debate.
And in this corner...
Here we go again with the great RWD/FWD snow debate.
And in this corner...
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I believe, if you RTFM (is that how it goes?), it talks about turning it off in really slick weather.
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You got it right though Bob. Once you get going it helps a bunch...now if only I could get going...
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And then everyone moans about it being rear drive.......uggh! With the big fat michelin Pilots on your old FWD car you wouldn't go anywhere either.
And then everyone moans about it being rear drive.......uggh! With the big fat michelin Pilots on your old FWD car you wouldn't go anywhere either.
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But then you gotta ask...why have it?
But then you gotta ask...why have it?
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4 snows !
4 good snow tires is the only way to go on a rear drive MB.
Suggestion: Tirerack.com, order 4 16" wheels and 4 quality snows (Blizzaks, Michelins, etc. ).
They will be sent to you mounted and balanced for less than $1,000. Put the C7s in the garage for the winter and save yourself the "agg".
Suggestion: Tirerack.com, order 4 16" wheels and 4 quality snows (Blizzaks, Michelins, etc. ).
They will be sent to you mounted and balanced for less than $1,000. Put the C7s in the garage for the winter and save yourself the "agg".
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Re: 4 snows !
Originally posted by CME4BENZ
4 good snow tires is the only way to go on a rear drive MB.
Suggestion: Tirerack.com, order 4 16" wheels and 4 quality snows (Blizzaks, Michelins, etc. ).
They will be sent to you mounted and balanced for less than $1,000. Put the C7s in the garage for the winter and save yourself the "agg".
4 good snow tires is the only way to go on a rear drive MB.
Suggestion: Tirerack.com, order 4 16" wheels and 4 quality snows (Blizzaks, Michelins, etc. ).
They will be sent to you mounted and balanced for less than $1,000. Put the C7s in the garage for the winter and save yourself the "agg".
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My C230 is one of the most sure footed vehicles I have ever owned(with the right tires). The first time I got stuck after parking on a side road covered with snow I never took the ESP off and was very disappointed with the outcome. A few days ago I got stuck again in the office parking lot after a whole day of snowfall. If I didn't switch the ESP off(ESP keeps the tires from spinning) I would still be trying to get out. Once I took the ESP off I drove right out of the snow trench. They should include this logic in the MB manual.
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Originally posted by MB-BOB
I would leave ESP on, but if that results in the car not being movable at all, then I would turn ESP off and "rock" the car with the accelerator until I got some momentum going... then turn ESP back on once moving.
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
I would leave ESP on, but if that results in the car not being movable at all, then I would turn ESP off and "rock" the car with the accelerator until I got some momentum going... then turn ESP back on once moving.
I've not had the opportunity to try either, yet, so this is just an opinion.
your opinion is i believe also in the MB manual somewhere about the ESP button etc etc.. i do this all the time i get stuck, and it works out perfectly.
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Originally posted by moomeh
i can't even remember the last time i even used the parking brake.
i can't even remember the last time i even used the parking brake.