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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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40 HP for 1K? TVT Pre-race season sale

As some of you may know we recently finished up our TVT250 install kit on Wavey's C320.

Results

Stock(SI tune, UD Pulleys, Exhaust): 163 HP/ 169 TQ
Modded: 207 HP/ 219 TQ

Gain: 44 HP, 50 TQ

Results included shorty headers, which accounted for about 6 RWHP as was determined from delta pre and post headers.

Our kits include:
  • 6 Hi-Flow fuel injectors for maximum safety and HP
  • K&N Air Filters for maximum air consumption
  • Our Aluminum Intake tubes for increased flow and smoother air ingestion
  • Custom ECU tune designed for your car with your modifications
  • Modified thermostat for cooler running temps


These modifications will not only add more power but improved fuel economy as well. You can expect 1-2 mpg increase if you can resist from getting on the gas all the time.

Special Sale Price for the kit will be 999.00 shipped to the USA. Sale is good until 2/28/09.

Thanks,

Anthony
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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c320 with 163 hp ? ?? ?? ?
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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c320 with 163 hp ? ?? ?? ?
I'm pretty sure that it's at the wheels.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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c320 with 163 hp ? ?? ?? ?

The numbers are at the wheels. Every dyno is different, its the delta that matters.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
Every dyno is different, its the delta that matters.
+1 100%
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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Is the C320 the M272 non supercharged engine? The 3.0L V6? Basically my question is, would this work on my C280? Mine needs more umph.!!!

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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Is the C320 the M272 non supercharged engine? The 3.0L V6? Basically my question is, would this work on my C280? Mine needs more umph.!!!
the C320 mike has is a M112 NA.
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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Make a 40+ HP kit for the M271

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Old Feb 2, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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The numbers are at the wheels. Every dyno is different, its the delta that matters.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 04:14 AM
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We need cars to make kits. You give us cars, we give you kits.
too bad you are in NJ and not in CA otherwise id be down there tomorrow.
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I can be there Saturday....
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I can be there Saturday....
Can you leave the car for a week or two?

If so then we have a winner.
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How much for the aluminum intake tubes?

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Make a 40+ HP kit for the M271
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any heat shield to wrap around those tubes??
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Originally Posted by TVT_DESIGN
As some of you may know we recently finished up our TVT250 install kit on Wavey's C320.

Results

Stock(SI tune, UD Pulleys, Exhaust): 163 HP/ 169 TQ


Anthony
I'm confused. You say stock and then list some mods.
Are you saying he had these mods before you replaced anything?

Does your kit includes UD pullies? (I'm guessing no)

It would be interesting to see the difference on a truly stock car.
It's surprising how little power he had to the wheels before you got to it.
I'm quite sure the C230 with just a OD pulley does better than that, even with an automatic,
and he's already got upgrades installed.

I think I recall this being discussed elsewhere.
Re: the thermostat.
Does MB sell different temp thermostats?
or did you somehow modify it?
I guess I'm wondering if I might benefit from that.
With the mods I'm running, indeed the engine can get hot.

Sounds like a nice kit you've put together.
Any pics of the header?
You seem to have some dead links on your website for the C230.
As there is NO ONE offering any type of complete kit for the M271 engine....
you might want to look at that.

For me, perhaps larger injectors and tune could add some more HP?
It would be nice if someone offered an integrated kit instead of just each thing
***** nilly...ha, my exhaust system is that for sure.
I mean, headers, exhaust, OD or UD pulley (depending on the engine), injectors, tune.
Seems like there'd be a market for that, and companies in the mb community
are just insane when it comes to pricing.
Kleeman is having a sale on the M271 headers for $1000, and people consider that a deal.
Sounds like an opportunity to me.

(I'm M111 though FYI, the only company offering a header is supersprint and they sell for about
$900, their mufflers cost a grand!! What a joke!!)

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by M-bENZ
any heat shield to wrap around those tubes??
Not really needed. Even after many hot runs the tubes are cool to the touch. Aluminum doesn't really hold in all the much heat.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup
I'm confused. You say stock and then list some mods.
Are you saying he had these mods before you replaced anything?

Yes, Stock in that respect is what his car had, coming to us.

Does your kit includes UD pullies? (I'm guessing no)

As of yet our kit does not include UD pulleys, but we are having sets finished up that will be lighter then what's currently available

It would be interesting to see the difference on a truly stock car.
It's surprising how little power he had to the wheels before you got to it.
I'm quite sure the C230 with just a OD pulley does better than that, even with an automatic,
and he's already got upgrades installed.

We tested a SLK230 with our intake on the same dyno, same day and it put down 6 more HP and about 5 more TQ. The DT loss in the C is higher then in the SLK however. So there are a lot of things that come into effect when comparing stuff like that.

I think I recall this being discussed elsewhere.
Re: the thermostat.
Does MB sell different temp thermostats?
or did you somehow modify it?
I guess I'm wondering if I might benefit from that.
With the mods I'm running, indeed the engine can get hot.

We modify the thermos and to my knowledge MB does not offer lower temps.

Sounds like a nice kit you've put together.
Any pics of the header?
You seem to have some dead links on your website for the C230.
As there is NO ONE offering any type of complete kit for the M271 engine....
you might want to look at that.

Yea, our site is a work in progress. As for the headers they are VRP, which I believe are on sale right now. From our experience its not cost effective to introduce a shorty style header into these engines. On the v8 then maybe, but on the v6 it doesn't make sense unless you want every last bit of power. Long tubes are the way to go, maybe in the future we can offer something like that.

For me, perhaps larger injectors and tune could add some more HP?
It would be nice if someone offered an integrated kit instead of just each thing
***** nilly...ha, my exhaust system is that for sure.
I mean, headers, exhaust, OD or UD pulley (depending on the engine), injectors, tune.
Seems like there'd be a market for that, and companies in the mb community
are just insane when it comes to pricing.
Kleeman is having a sale on the M271 headers for $1000, and people consider that a deal.
Sounds like an opportunity to me.

It's hard to say what will and won't help your car at this point. A lot of testing and logging goes into figuring out what exactly these cars will benefit from. Just throwing a bunch of parts at something is a waste of money.

As for the Kleeman prices being too expensive, you have to look at their quality. They make some of the nicest headers out there. I think 1K is a steal for a product that good in a very small market.


(I'm M111 though FYI, the only company offering a header is supersprint and they sell for about
$900, their mufflers cost a grand!! What a joke!!)
With that said... SEND US SOME CARS!!!
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TVT Design looking for any web design work for your website? Cmon Im only 18 I work for cheap! or parts here are some projects im working on right now. www.thewheelsupply.com www.letsgetfaded.com www.lonispratt.com and my company website is www.asapdesignstudio.com it looks like i have a team of people haha but its just me! but really i would work for parts!

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