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Goodyear
21
5.92%
Toyo
28
7.89%
Michelin
140
39.44%
Continental
43
12.11%
Falken
25
7.04%
Pirelli
43
12.11%
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55
15.49%
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W203/CL203/S203 TIRE Discussion Thread - Every question on TIRES
#1727
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From: Nuevo México
2005 C230K Sport Sedan, 6 speed manual
Originally Posted by Moviela
As for the autobahn, you would not be driving 80mph at night. Some German would stop you and open a can of whupass on you for being stupid.
Many parts of the Autobahn are now speed limited, but I am not aware of them changing that limit at night.
#1728
Originally Posted by sirenebekim
I blew my back left tire going 80 down the interstate tonight at 12 am. The car kept perfectly straight as I came to a stop, as if there were no tire blown at all! What a amazing vehicle!
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Overall the experience was not that bad, as the tool box and full size spare that comes standard arrived to my rescue. I do have one question, does the ESP brake assistance play any part in keeping the vehicle straight during a blowout? What if this happened at autobahn speeds ?
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Overall the experience was not that bad, as the tool box and full size spare that comes standard arrived to my rescue. I do have one question, does the ESP brake assistance play any part in keeping the vehicle straight during a blowout? What if this happened at autobahn speeds ?
I had a tire blow out on Christmas Day while I was heading back from Yosemite National Park (my friend who was visiting me had never been there and wanted to go). I was going only about 45 mph, but California SR-120 is windy and narrow (though I was on a straight-ish stretch) and it was pouring rain and pitch black outside, when I hit a rock near the shoulder of the road.
The car immediately pulled right (blew the right front tire), but also slowed down, so I was able to steer to the left and get the car off the road. About 15 minutes or so later in the rain, I had the spare on and continued home.
I took a quick look at the rim and tire that night, and the rim was clearly dented/scratched up, but I couldn't see any damage to the tire. When I looked at it in the morning, I could see a U-shaped hole blown in the tire.
I didn't notice the ESP kick in at the blowout, but then again, I was more focused on keeping the car out of the rock cut on my right side (which is in a rock slide area) and keeping my passenger safe. With the spare on though, the ESP did kick in for about half of the trip home.
I should have taken a picture of the rim and the tire before they were disposed of, but yours looks a lot more serious than mine was.
-- Joe
#1729
Any drama with a blow-out in the front is always worse than the drama with a blow-out in the rear -- for all of the obvious reasons....
Keep your cool, keep control of your vehicle, and steer-
Of course the good news is that he survived the mishap without any serious injury or death occurring - which always equals success in my book.
Keep your cool, keep control of your vehicle, and steer-
Of course the good news is that he survived the mishap without any serious injury or death occurring - which always equals success in my book.
#1730
My wife had the right front tire (Conti CH95) blow going 65 with three other people in the car. She felt nothing. The only indication something was wrong was a "thumping" noise everyone heard and were looking around for the source! Car maintained complete control even as she pulled to the shoulder of the freeway after they decided their car was the noise source. No steering wheel shake or anything. If you want drama....I had a front tire deflate on a motorcylce going 70 in the rain producing a 'tank slapper' that scared the heck out of me.
#1731
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From: The blue white rock, third out.
2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by ClayJ
Any drama with a blow-out in the front is always worse than the drama with a blow-out in the rear -- for all of the obvious reasons....
Keep your cool, keep control of your vehicle, and steer-
Keep your cool, keep control of your vehicle, and steer-
#1732
More weight in the front in a front-engine car. Front end loads under decceleration. Front end is directional control. If front end bites and g-forces aren't controlled and kept in alignment rear end can come out. Front ends usually have more active suspension than rear end. Dragging the rears is easier to control than door-stoppering in the front.....
Have had a few blowouts in the rear with nary a problem. Have had a couple of blowouts in the front with nary a problem -- but it was more of a heart-pounding experience. Had two blowouts simultaneously (front and rear) on one side of the car onetime...now that one was exciting!
Have had a few blowouts in the rear with nary a problem. Have had a couple of blowouts in the front with nary a problem -- but it was more of a heart-pounding experience. Had two blowouts simultaneously (front and rear) on one side of the car onetime...now that one was exciting!
#1733
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From: Basel, Switzerland
Audi A5 Sportback + Cannondale Prophet
A good friend of mine and his dad got a high speed tire vlowout in a Porsche 944 many moons ago... the car promptly did a 180 and proceeding to head off the road while backwards. They were lucky to walk out of it with a lot of bruises. My friends dad got killed a few years later on a motorcycle accident.
#1734
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From: The blue white rock, third out.
2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by Nola
A good friend of mine and his dad got a high speed tire vlowout in a Porsche 944 many moons ago... the car promptly did a 180 and proceeding to head off the road while backwards. They were lucky to walk out of it with a lot of bruises. My friends dad got killed a few years later on a motorcycle accident.
Folks, its pretty freaking simple how this works...loosing one of the rear tires induces a skid, and you simply can't control this as easy as if one of the front's goes out. Period. You still have control over the direction of the car when you loose a front. Its not about the wieght distribution or which wheels steer the car, its physics.
THis has been proven and demonstrated on several automotive television shows. Ive even experienced it. I lost a rear tire due to a blow out several years ago going around a slight bend, the car promptly went into a slide, that only stopped in the gravel on the side of the road.
#1735
+1
That's the correct one.
Keep in mind that these cars have lower profile tires compared to most other cars. That means there is less of a difference in diameter between a properly inflated tire and a completely deflated one after a blowout. The smaller difference produces less drama when the pressure goes to zero.
Hence the wild blowout stories from SUV owners with 15" wheels and 28" overall diameter tires.
That's the correct one.
Keep in mind that these cars have lower profile tires compared to most other cars. That means there is less of a difference in diameter between a properly inflated tire and a completely deflated one after a blowout. The smaller difference produces less drama when the pressure goes to zero.
Hence the wild blowout stories from SUV owners with 15" wheels and 28" overall diameter tires.
Originally Posted by Outland
That was definately a rear wheel blowout.
Folks, its pretty freaking simple how this works...loosing one of the rear tires induces a skid, and you simply can't control this as easy as if one of the front's goes out. Period. You still have control over the direction of the car when you loose a front. Its not about the wieght distribution or which wheels steer the car, its physics.
THis has been proven and demonstrated on several automotive television shows. Ive even experienced it. I lost a rear tire due to a blow out several years ago going around a slight bend, the car promptly went into a slide, that only stopped in the gravel on the side of the road.
Folks, its pretty freaking simple how this works...loosing one of the rear tires induces a skid, and you simply can't control this as easy as if one of the front's goes out. Period. You still have control over the direction of the car when you loose a front. Its not about the wieght distribution or which wheels steer the car, its physics.
THis has been proven and demonstrated on several automotive television shows. Ive even experienced it. I lost a rear tire due to a blow out several years ago going around a slight bend, the car promptly went into a slide, that only stopped in the gravel on the side of the road.
#1737
Tirerack is god.
Purchase the tires through the vendor link so MBworld gets donated some cash to support the servers
http://www.tirerack.com/affiliates/mbworld/index.html
Purchase the tires through the vendor link so MBworld gets donated some cash to support the servers
http://www.tirerack.com/affiliates/mbworld/index.html
#1738
Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
Tirerack is god.
Purchase the tires through the vendor link so MBworld gets donated some cash to support the servers
http://www.tirerack.com/affiliates/mbworld/index.html
Purchase the tires through the vendor link so MBworld gets donated some cash to support the servers
http://www.tirerack.com/affiliates/mbworld/index.html
#1741
Tire
I just got a set of new tires (Pirelli) for the rear wheel. And last night I found a screw in one of the tire. I went to the dealer that I bought the tire. We took the tire out and it turned out that the screw did not gone completely throught the tire. There weren't any leak. We end up re-mount the tire without any repair. Any potential problem or issue down the road? Fortunately the screw went into the fattest part of the tire.
#1742
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From: Nuevo México
2005 C230K Sport Sedan, 6 speed manual
Did the screw go all the way to the tire cord, or just into the tread? If it just went into the outer tread, it should not be a problem.
If the screw went into the steel belts, you may have an issue with moisture getting inside, which could cause problems sometime in the future. You could try to seal it with a tiny bit of black silicone sealer.
Many tire manufacturers say that once a tire has been patched, it is no longer certified to its speed rating.
Performance tires are expensive (as you just discovered).
If the screw went into the steel belts, you may have an issue with moisture getting inside, which could cause problems sometime in the future. You could try to seal it with a tiny bit of black silicone sealer.
Many tire manufacturers say that once a tire has been patched, it is no longer certified to its speed rating.
Performance tires are expensive (as you just discovered).
#1743
Tire sizes...last confirmation to make sure
c230 amg kit sedan 2005 silver
i have brabus chrome replicas vi 19x9.5 rear 19x8.5 fronts (they are beautiful btw if anyone wanted to know..wow)
correct me if im wrong. Im looking to purchase my tires. I want to just confirm that I have the right tire size.
thanks guys
offset 35 for all 4
19x9.5 = 265/30/19
19x8.5 = 235/35/19
I am going to purchase the general tire exclaims from tirerack.com just needed verification. thanks.
I might need a 3mm - 5mm spacers on front wheels. I heard good and bad things about h&r (sometimes they need loctite I hear) 32 front ...35 rear
I will not be lowering my car. (staying stock height)
comments and answers much appreciated. and thank you in advance to helping me.
i have brabus chrome replicas vi 19x9.5 rear 19x8.5 fronts (they are beautiful btw if anyone wanted to know..wow)
correct me if im wrong. Im looking to purchase my tires. I want to just confirm that I have the right tire size.
thanks guys
offset 35 for all 4
19x9.5 = 265/30/19
19x8.5 = 235/35/19
I am going to purchase the general tire exclaims from tirerack.com just needed verification. thanks.
I might need a 3mm - 5mm spacers on front wheels. I heard good and bad things about h&r (sometimes they need loctite I hear) 32 front ...35 rear
I will not be lowering my car. (staying stock height)
comments and answers much appreciated. and thank you in advance to helping me.
#1744
i slowly start to understand why some ppl here get so pissed of all these multiple threads and tell one to STFF.
and if i'd purchase wheels, i'd ask the seller what tire sizes would go along with them for a c230 2006 or w/e it is you have.
but yes, the tire sizes you stated are correct. when you want to avoid any possible rubbing issue you'd go with 255 in the rear (but it would expose you lip a little more)
and if i'd purchase wheels, i'd ask the seller what tire sizes would go along with them for a c230 2006 or w/e it is you have.
but yes, the tire sizes you stated are correct. when you want to avoid any possible rubbing issue you'd go with 255 in the rear (but it would expose you lip a little more)
#1745
true, to a small extent, but people on the forum also need to calm the hell down as well, just like in real life. I searched, found these answers but wanted final confirmation from people with the same car. I am a moderator at a bodybuilding forum where thousands of people ask the same questions, but I dont disrespect or put them down, some are learning, some are new to the sport and/or forums all together, etc.
If someone ask the same question, I always answer the question (and if I dont want to answer it, I dont ....or just dont check the thread out because of possible duplicates)
anyways, 255, interesting....this is the first time I have purchased wheels for my new car. I just installed the cable harness for my ipod (checked out another great thread in here) As I stated above, I am not going to lower my car at all, so would I still need to run 255? I heard 265 is the recommended but want the best setup possible (no rubbing, no type of collision possible)
Thank you for your response either way. Have a good one. Any more help would be wonderful.
If someone ask the same question, I always answer the question (and if I dont want to answer it, I dont ....or just dont check the thread out because of possible duplicates)
anyways, 255, interesting....this is the first time I have purchased wheels for my new car. I just installed the cable harness for my ipod (checked out another great thread in here) As I stated above, I am not going to lower my car at all, so would I still need to run 255? I heard 265 is the recommended but want the best setup possible (no rubbing, no type of collision possible)
Thank you for your response either way. Have a good one. Any more help would be wonderful.
#1746
good start, you seeing what im getting at. just another tipp: if you know the dimension but just want a confirmation you should pm a sponsor or someone really activ on this board (like frankw) rather than starting a new thread
i wont make you read all the pages of the group-buy thread, but you would have found all the answers to your questions there.
with 255 in the rear, you wont have any rubbing issues at all with 3 adults in the back (and actually another one in the trunk - i tried it myself) as long as you dont lower the car. IF you want to lower it - you HAVE to go with 255
with 265 you should be good with 2 adults in the back. more than that probably is going to get you in trouble. and of course any lowering possible.
the 265 gives you just a little more protection to the lip and the "wider tire look". but in the end, when you get too close to a curb, you are going to mess up your wheels, no matter if you are running 255's or 265
i wont make you read all the pages of the group-buy thread, but you would have found all the answers to your questions there.
with 255 in the rear, you wont have any rubbing issues at all with 3 adults in the back (and actually another one in the trunk - i tried it myself) as long as you dont lower the car. IF you want to lower it - you HAVE to go with 255
with 265 you should be good with 2 adults in the back. more than that probably is going to get you in trouble. and of course any lowering possible.
the 265 gives you just a little more protection to the lip and the "wider tire look". but in the end, when you get too close to a curb, you are going to mess up your wheels, no matter if you are running 255's or 265
#1748
i refuse to answer these questions!!!!...
just kidding.
basically kickR has already explained what I've informed him. post some pics when you get the wheels on the car.
regarding the spacers. put it on and test it out first. Most likely you would need a 3mm spacer for the front. The rear will be okay.
If the rear rubs you're rubbing on the plastic tabs from the rear bumper molding sticking out inside the bumper and also the part of the wheel well carpet that's sticking out. Simply shave and cut the tab and the carpet and you are set.
just kidding.
basically kickR has already explained what I've informed him. post some pics when you get the wheels on the car.
regarding the spacers. put it on and test it out first. Most likely you would need a 3mm spacer for the front. The rear will be okay.
If the rear rubs you're rubbing on the plastic tabs from the rear bumper molding sticking out inside the bumper and also the part of the wheel well carpet that's sticking out. Simply shave and cut the tab and the carpet and you are set.
#1750
thank you guys, I just got my rims in..I need to contact the company back. one came in BENT. im pretty upset but thats life apparently. They said call back monday to get a replacement. We will see how that goes.
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