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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:28 AM
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My Unknown W203 C Class

Hello everyone still trying to solve my merc's identity, first thought it was a C240 thru the VIN but turned out that could be wrong since its been tampered with. Now still looking at it for it might be a C320 or a C240.....will do a test drive soon to clock the seconds. Here's my evolution though, i am in Pakistan right now and here is where my C Class lives, in the city of karachi. In this country we only have C180K, C200K and a few C230K......C240s,C280s,C320s,C350s are not available here in this country, only 2 C240s were imported to the whole country and a few C280s and never heard of C320s or C350s here. I am hoping that i have the first C320 in my country.I am posting a few "after" pics, everyone knows the "before" pics since it is a regular 203 and everyone knows how a stock 203 looks like.....still have alot of mods to do.
I am only being alowed to upload 6 images!!!!! it wont let me upload more....

Current mods on my unknown C Class.
-CF roof wrap
-Clear Headlights
-17" AMG light weight alloys
-B&G lowering springs
-AMG exhaust tips
-3 Fin Grille
-LED city lights
I am going to tint the front lights blue and smoke the rear lights in the coming days.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 06:53 AM
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When I try & look beneath the changes I think this is a South African built C240 RHD for the Japanese market. We also built RHD models for the UK, Australia, New Zealand etc. It's VIN is in our series as well. The C240 was available in SA with full Thermotronic HVAC etc etc. It was only in the US package system that some of the premium stuff was only available in the 320. ROW you could have it all on any model. I don't think any 320's ever went to Japan.

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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Find a C240 and race him if you win you have a C320 if not you have a C240 lol :-)
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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The bumper plastics are wierd. Rear is either distorted or aftermarket - I think distorted. Looks as though it has had a nose shunt. Bonnet, bumper & headlight fit is all over the place. It has a US rear number plate surround with an aftermarket chrome handle. The Parktronic/PDC is aftermarket. The side skirts are standard Elegance & Classic although they appear damaged. The Bi Xenons have been fitted at a later stage & have no self leveling or headlight washers.

Here is my late 2003 SA built C240 Elegance.










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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Just look under the hood and see which engine you have?
V6 is 320 and 240 is 4cylinder right?
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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No - C240 is a 2.6 litre V6. Same engine with different bore & stroke. They look identical.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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If you think you have the wrong VIN and have no sticker ... You can find another place that has the VIN.
Look at the passenger side ... take the sit all the way back.
You can identify a place where the carpet can be pulled a bit and below that there's the VIN of your merc embedded at the metal below ...

That will verify what you need ...
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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ok lol a c240 has 4 wheel drive right?

jack the front of the car and see if the front wheels spin freely

call a dealership in the us to confirm the vin

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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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A C240 came as 2 & 4WD
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
No - C240 is a 2.6 litre V6. Same engine with different bore & stroke. They look identical.
Oh, alright. Thanks haha
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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why would u buy a car and not know wat your even getting?

espically on a benz
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Akber! Good to see you posting again.
You’re still unsure of its pedigree? Could have sworn you said yours was a C240.

Which VIN has “been tampered with” on yours? It’s stamped on the cowl, underneath a front seat, and several other places about the shell.
You’ll also find an engine number atop the rear of the block, where it abuts the transmission’s bellhousing.

They’re both easy enough to research and verify. From any continent. :)

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https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ring-c240.html
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sammydragon3
why would u buy a car and not know wat your even getting?

espically on a benz
I think he got it from his Dad. Before you get smart remember that Pakistan is a very poor country. Owning a Benz there is quite a privilege
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
When I try & look beneath the changes I think this is a South African built C240 RHD for the Japanese market. We also built RHD models for the UK, Australia, New Zealand etc. It's VIN is in our series as well. The C240 was available in SA with full Thermotronic HVAC etc etc. It was only in the US package system that some of the premium stuff was only available in the 320. ROW you could have it all on any model. I don't think any 320's ever went to Japan.
You sure? so the only V6's ever offered were 240s?
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WaveyKat
Find a C240 and race him if you win you have a C320 if not you have a C240 lol :-)
haha a C240 over here is like a pagani zonda in the States.....you know they are here but when will u ever run into one??? GOD knows. I have surpassed C180's, C200's and C230's but that doesn't answer my question if its a 2.6 or 3.2
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
The bumper plastics are wierd. Rear is either distorted or aftermarket - I think distorted. Looks as though it has had a nose shunt. Bonnet, bumper & headlight fit is all over the place. It has a US rear number plate surround with an aftermarket chrome handle. The Parktronic/PDC is aftermarket. The side skirts are standard Elegance & Classic although they appear damaged. The Bi Xenons have been fitted at a later stage & have no self leveling or headlight washers.

Here is my late 2003 SA built C240 Elegance.









Your c class is absolutely stunnning. Looks show room condition, and ya this car has a long and dark story behind her. You know when people bring in cars, they rip it apart, change stuff, remove vins, mod engines so that the car can avoid the govt. luxury tax and illegally bring it into cities.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WhirlPool
If you think you have the wrong VIN and have no sticker ... You can find another place that has the VIN.
Look at the passenger side ... take the sit all the way back.
You can identify a place where the carpet can be pulled a bit and below that there's the VIN of your merc embedded at the metal below ...

That will verify what you need ...
Yes sir i am going to do that in a while, got a date in an hour so when i leave i'll check the vin, But correct me if i am wrong, VIN's start with WDB something something 203 right? if thats it then i already posted mine in the forums and a few members solved it as a C240 but some argued that the VIN decoder was applicable to North American merc's.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sammydragon3
ok lol a c240 has 4 wheel drive right?

jack the front of the car and see if the front wheels spin freely

call a dealership in the us to confirm the vin
hahaha jack the front.......i did that but they said your car is from a different region, they said contact your local benz dealer.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by splinter
Akber! Good to see you posting again.
You’re still unsure of its pedigree? Could have sworn you said yours was a C240.

Which VIN has “been tampered with” on yours? It’s stamped on the cowl, underneath a front seat, and several other places about the shell.
You’ll also find an engine number atop the rear of the block, where it abuts the transmission’s bellhousing.

They’re both easy enough to research and verify. From any continent.

reference:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...03-please.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ring-c240.html
Thanks bud, i think i already posted the VIN in my earlier forums and people said it was a C240, some said it was a C320 but i haven't checked the engine number. isn't the engine number under the cover of the engine?? i tried opening it but its jammed and i don't want to break off the merc's cover. And by tampering i mean that this car came thru "shady" people. The previous owner who was a crazy tuner smuggled in nissan R32, R33s GTRS and this merc and ended up modding all three and sold them to different buyers but changed the vin's on all cars to avoid high taxes i suppose so maybe the car is a C320 but applied as a C240 since 2,600CC is lower than 3200CC and thus less duty paid on the car based on the engine. Its sad how our country works.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
I think he got it from his Dad. Before you get smart remember that Pakistan is a very poor country. Owning a Benz there is quite a privilege
Thanks sir, you said a handful there. And i wouldn't say my country is poor BUT corrupted by leeches which i call the Government and officials who keep sucking the money and resources from this beautiful country of mine.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 01:57 AM
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2 more things i like to add guys. When reading the owners manual it said that C320s came standard with memory seat, adjustable steering, auto climate, premium sound etc etc. C240s didn't come with those and were optional. My car has all the features but has no sun roof and instead of leather seats, i have fabric or clothed seats. So could this partially solve the issue? but then again i am going to do a test drive in a while and will post the end results to see how fast it really is.
Now another thing to add, it has been 3 days since i lowered my car about 1.5 front and 1.5 rear and i didn't see much difference at all and checked BMW, mustang and other forums and found out that springs take time to settle and you have to drive the car about 100-300 miles before the car fully sits low. I have only driven about 50-60 miles since lowering.....
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Is it feasible to measure the stroke of the piston by taking out a plug & placing a piece of measured wire down the hole , then rotate the engine slowly BDC to TDC?

Then compare with the specs of either car .

A compression check may give you the answer too?
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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JC - It is difficult on these twin plug per cylinder engines but not impossible to check stroke.
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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call mbenz or a parts number company and have them check ur chassis number duh
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this is probably dumb but how about checking the serpentine belt? the c320 serpentine belt layout differs from the c240 The manual that came with my car has the positioning of the belt with pictures and it clearly shows the lay out for c320 and c240............just a thought.
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