SP1200

Will a set of 19"s 19x8.5 with an offset of 46 fit? I know they fit my w202. I didn't need spacers in back but in front it only required 3mm H&R's. Back was fine, but the front I rubbed. And I rolled the front fenders, and removed the plastic liner. I was running 235/35/19's all the way around. These were staggered rims, but these are 8.5's all the way around. I would run 235's again in back, but with 215's in front.

Is this just retarded or would they fit? Anyone know?


Thanks in advance.

JDM_love

I have 235/40/18 front and 245/40/18 in the back and they fit perfect with no rub at all. I needed 5mm spacers in the front so they wouldn't hit the struts. Not sure about 19s

SP1200

What's your offset though on your rims?

JDM_love

I'm pretty sure its 44

SunnyRayToronto

Offsets should be about mid 30s for front and low 30s for rear.

19" is just asking for trouble with your suspension.

We do have an aftermarket wheel thread,... search! And research,... lots of been there done that there,...

ROLLNNN

which w203 do you have? you will most likely need to use a spacer and bring the offset down to +35 or more. Spacer size will depend on the face of your wheel and if you have bbk up front.

SP1200

I have a 2004 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan.

SunnyRayToronto..... Regarding reading and doing searches... I did do a search, and no one asked this specific question before. I may be new to this forum, but not new to turning Benz's. Save your lectures for someone else, bud.


For the rest of you, I know 46+ is a crazy offset for the W203. But I have a set of 19" Monoblocks laying around that did fit W202. Everyone said the same. Don't do it, and a few people knew it would fit. We're talking Gaston Rey back from the AutoClass days... back in the day. He hooked me up on that. He said don't listen to people regarding 19's, etc, I know that it works. It will be tight, but I know it works.

I think it's the same with the W203. It will require 10mm spacers up front, and like 215/35's and maybe 35's in back. I would probably do 10mm hubcentric spacers in back there too since unfortunately this pair is not staggered which super sucks. I would really like a pair of ASA ST2's (19") since it has a et35 offset which is a dream. I know I could make those fit for sure. And regarding "the look" of big dish like rims of the 90's and early 2000's.. the more the merrier. I personally do not like the look of most of these modded W203's with an identity crises while looking like a mix between a BMW or Audi, and sometimes Honda. I like the iconic OG looking of a Monoblock, Lorinser D93, Emil Mandrus, Tsw Holsten, and the older Wald rims. But that's just the 40 year old talking in me I guess.


WTB: 19" ASA ST2's

SunnyRayToronto

SP1200,.... I seriously doubt you did an effective search.

Listen Einstein, we have a "W203/CL203 Aftermarket Wheel Thread - All you want to know" for a reason,... it groups together all the information you and anyone else would ever need to know about aftermarket and OEM rims on our W203/CL203,... ever! These cars are over 10 years old, the thread has over 300 pages with 7,500 posts and almost 2 million views! By posting to that thread instead of starting your own,.. we keep all the rim posts together,... it makes it easier for other members to search and research,... and best of all, Einstein, it makes it easier for YOU! ,.. since members that are really into rims subscribes to that thread including members that already posted one of the over 7,500 posts there,.... and they would actually see YOUR inquiry! MBWorld.org email all subscribers a copy of your post!

Bottom line, you start new thread,... only the members that check the forum on a regular basis might see the heading of your post and would only read your specific inquiry if they found your heading interesting enough. You post to that thread, all the members that are subscribed to that thread including all those that have posted one of the over 7,500 posts on that thread will get a email from mbworld.org with the entire content of your inquiry post! Hey, Einstein,... What do you think will give you the better result? Help me,... help YOU, Einstein!

And you're telling me you can't find a post in there about 19" monoblock rims??? Dude, it's been done soo many times,... SEARCH!

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...-know-302.html

SP1200

Not so Sunny Ray Toronto,

You know what? You're absolutely, right. I am wrong. If there is a thread dedicated to wheel fitment. Than I should have used it.
That is my fault. And I apologize to the forum. I apologize to everyone, except to you. Now, I know.

Do me a favor and please never post to any of my threads going forward. I don't need your bad energy sucking me down. Or at least trying to. How's the weather up there in Toronto? It doesn't seem so good. It's perfect here in Del Mar today.

Anyways, I didn't see any threads in the search dedicated to 19" AMG Monoblocks with the W203. I still feel justified to asking the question. But in the wrong thread... Major crime.

kickR

SP1200, you have to understand that seeing threads such as yours can become quite annoying after some time, simply because the topic has been beaten to death. IMO, Sunny should have provided the link in the first post, but was not really out of line either. As you probably have found out by now, the thread is filled with great information and lots of knowlegable people. If you do not find a definite answer to your question, feel free to PM contributors whom you feel are most knowlegable and they will be glad to help.

My two cents: installing spacers, even hubcentric, is often just asking for trouble. I would avoid them at all cost.

SP1200

"you have to understand that seeing threads such as yours can become quite annoying after some time"

It's gonna be alright. I promise you, you'll bounce back from this. I highly doubt that my post was the most annoying thing you will encounter all day.

It's as if I asked "how do I lower my W203" or some super generic general question. I am yet to find 19" AMG Monoblocks fitment on the W203 on this board or any other forum for that matter. This is a unique question about about a nontraditional fitment. I feel it's a specific question that is not in the Search function. Please show me otherwise if it has been asked before. 18's and 17" Monoblocks, yes, with mid 30 offsets, but not et46 and being 19". Nothing of the sort. If I am wrong, then I am wrong. I am not an ego-maniac... I can admit when I am wrong.

As far as spacers go... a ton of people are running spacers on their Benz's. I used them and never had a problem. It wasn't an issue. In a utopian world, spacers wouldn't be needed. But they do work in some applications without problems.

Anyways, just move on. I will handle it. This gives me a sense of who's on this board at this point. It's just beating a dead horse for no good reason at this point. I'll figure it out.

Crna Mechka

SP1200...like the old school bit sampler?

(Sorry off topic)

Crna Mechka

And to add something on topic, I will say that I agree with this assessment. Spacers = not recomended. Hey if you end up getting the rims installed post pics I would love to see how it looks. Good luck.

SP1200

Yes, 12bit grit is the best.

OK, will post pics if I decide to go this route.

SunnyRayToronto

Weather-wise in Toronto, lots of snow from last week,... great for skiing and tobogganing! The great thing about snow and cold weather,... lots of the older folks head south to Florida for the Winter. BTW, how you like driving behind all those old folks in Florida? ;p

I have 18" AMG and I prefer the gentle comfort of 16". I find 17" is already a bit too stiff. I wouldn't even recommend 18" unless you area have baby-butt smooth roads. If you're seriously thinking 19", wow, you must have a tough rear and really like riding it rough and hard!

Oh, please go this route,... I'll love to see the photo and details of the spacers and lugs,... and don't forget to post photo of your suspension repair bills too.

SP1200

16"s?? damn.. I have 72 Austin Mini in my storage unit that is on my list to restore this year. Maybe you would like borrow the stock steel 10" rims for a while?

And why are you thinking about my rear so much? Save it for the ladies, man. Eeeek!





Anyways, just because it hasn't been done before doesn't mean it's not going to work. The 19's fit the W202 and I believe I am working with about the same amount of space in there. With the Bilstein Sports, #1 pads, and Eibach springs, and it worked. It was tight, but it worked. The staggered 9.5"s rears tucked like a glove. Not one single fender had to be rolled in the back. No spacers in the rear either. And just a simple 3mm H&R spacer up front. I did rub up front but just because I was running 235/35's, and all I needed was to drop down to probably 225's or even 215's. And this was et46. I believe it can be done on the W203 too. Think what you want to think, but it was pure panties droppin. I LOVED that ride. My plans is to do another W202, and then sell this W203 for an E55 in 2 years. I like my W203, but I don't love it. But I want to see if this going to work.

I think I belong on the Stance Works site to be honest, lol. I love some of those rides.

SunnyRayToronto

The suspension of our W203/CL203 was engineered for 16",... and thus our cars provide the most comfortable ride with 16". Mercedes-Benz put so much of their R&D into engineering a comfortable smooth ride.

19" has been done many times on our W203/CL203,... read that CL203/W203 aftermarket wheel thread link I already posted,... lots of useful info there.

For 19" and no modification to the car, ideally you want 19x8.5 about ET29 with 235/35R19 in front,... and same for rear or staggered 19x9.5 about ET35 265/30R19

Most would even consider the factory Mercedes and AMG rims too heavy,... why you would actually want to put on even heavier AMG Monoblocks is beyond me. But then again, I guess you really are old school and will be wearing your MC-Hammer pants too! It's Hammer-Time!

phister

Having spacers is not asking for trouble. Many road race and track cars use spacers. Its just about torquring it down to spec.

kickR

I have no idea why it is so difficult for you to understand that your situation is everything but special and that it does not require its own thread. All your questions have been answered in the aftermarket wheel thread and you only have to put one and one together.

The majority of aftermarket tires on W203's are 235/35/19 on a 8.5 wheel in the front and 265/30/19 on a 9.5 wheel in the rear. I run that setup myself and you will not have a problem running 8.5/19 all around with proper offset. Your offset is too high and as mentioned previously by others, buy spacers so that you end up with an offset to manufacturer specifications: ET+35 front and ET+32 rear or less depending on brakes.

Now go buy some hubcentric spacers with proper hub bore and post some pictures.

kickR

Hubcentric vs Non-hubcentric
66.6 vs 66.56 bore
Correct lug length
Correct lug seat

I run spacers myself in the front to clear the stock BBK's, and it took me 3 pairs of H&R and Eibach hubcentric spacers until I was finally happy with the feel. Are all spacer setups bad news? No, but there are quite a few factors that could let such a setup become a nightmare - snapped lugs being one of them.

JDM_love

[QUOTE=SunnyRayToronto;5541827]The great thing about snow and cold weather,... lots of the older folks head south to Florida for the Winter. BTW, how you like driving behind all those old folks in Florida? ;p

/QUOTE]

It's a pain in the ***!

SP1200

Actually, 17" Monoblock II's might actually loook pretty good on a silver W203, and get the car on the ground with like 2.5" drop. I think that might actually look pretty ****. I may have access to an old pair of C43 wheels. That would be closer to desired offset without anyone getting too butt hurt around here. I am thinking around +31 fronts and +35 for the rear on those.

JDM_love

I'm not 100% if the lugs I have are the correct seat size for the wheels I have on. Would that make any difference? They are the correct size.

kickR

Is the shape of your lug bolt head that of a cone (taper) seat or ball (radius)seat? I couldn't imagine you placing a ball seat in that designed for a cone. Taper seats come in different angles for example so my guess is that this might be the source of your worries?

Take one wheel off, let a lug bolt fall into place in one of the holes. If you are able to wiggle the lug bolt shaft on the other end, then you have a bad fit.

JDM_love

Oh alright thanks for the info. I can't remember the shape of it, but when my wheel was off and the lug was fully inserted in the wheel it wasn't able to wiggle