Nearly Died In C220 CDI Coupe
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Nearly Died In C220 CDI Coupe
Going 80mph and again EPC error appeared on the LCD display, I had no brakes, no steering the engine shut down.
I rolled along for 3 quarters of a mile until the car stopped, black smoke was flooding out of the front grill and there was fluid dripping behind us. I had no way of slowing the car because its a auto, I put it in Neutral and hoped for the best.
Got the car into a dirt road, got me and my mate out opened the hood diesel was everywhere and smoke was poring out.
Called Mercedes breakdown cover they come out took the engine apart to discover that the main fuel line had come off the engine, putting about 7 litres of diesel under the car pan and flooding the brakes full of diesel.
So they have a lot of work to do, if it was petrol I wouldnt be here now.
So my car is at Canterbury and they have lent me a C220 CDI sedan.
Any suggetsions on what to do now.
Cheers,
Neil
I rolled along for 3 quarters of a mile until the car stopped, black smoke was flooding out of the front grill and there was fluid dripping behind us. I had no way of slowing the car because its a auto, I put it in Neutral and hoped for the best.
Got the car into a dirt road, got me and my mate out opened the hood diesel was everywhere and smoke was poring out.
Called Mercedes breakdown cover they come out took the engine apart to discover that the main fuel line had come off the engine, putting about 7 litres of diesel under the car pan and flooding the brakes full of diesel.
So they have a lot of work to do, if it was petrol I wouldnt be here now.
So my car is at Canterbury and they have lent me a C220 CDI sedan.
Any suggetsions on what to do now.
Cheers,
Neil
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Re: Nearly Died In C220 CDI Coupe
Originally posted by cliffybabe
Going 80mph and again EPC error appeared on the LCD display, I had no brakes, no steering the engine shut down.
I rolled along for 3 quarters of a mile until the car stopped, black smoke was flooding out of the front grill and there was fluid dripping behind us. I had no way of slowing the car because its a auto, I put it in Neutral and hoped for the best.
Got the car into a dirt road, got me and my mate out opened the hood diesel was everywhere and smoke was poring out.
Called Mercedes breakdown cover they come out took the engine apart to discover that the main fuel line had come off the engine, putting about 7 litres of diesel under the car pan and flooding the brakes full of diesel.
So they have a lot of work to do, if it was petrol I wouldnt be here now.
So my car is at Canterbury and they have lent me a C220 CDI sedan.
Any suggetsions on what to do now.
Cheers,
Neil
Going 80mph and again EPC error appeared on the LCD display, I had no brakes, no steering the engine shut down.
I rolled along for 3 quarters of a mile until the car stopped, black smoke was flooding out of the front grill and there was fluid dripping behind us. I had no way of slowing the car because its a auto, I put it in Neutral and hoped for the best.
Got the car into a dirt road, got me and my mate out opened the hood diesel was everywhere and smoke was poring out.
Called Mercedes breakdown cover they come out took the engine apart to discover that the main fuel line had come off the engine, putting about 7 litres of diesel under the car pan and flooding the brakes full of diesel.
So they have a lot of work to do, if it was petrol I wouldnt be here now.
So my car is at Canterbury and they have lent me a C220 CDI sedan.
Any suggetsions on what to do now.
Cheers,
Neil
GoodLuck just let mercedes handle it.
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It was so un reall no brakes or steering just rolling along.
I have complained and I'm putting it in writting to Mercedes tonight i'm not happy as I dont feel safe and I don't want it back now.
I have complained and I'm putting it in writting to Mercedes tonight i'm not happy as I dont feel safe and I don't want it back now.
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Cliffy,
What about the parking brake?? It is strictly mechanical - not dependant upon other systems.
It could have been used to slow the car down.
Also, the brakes and steering will still function under an engine failure, but it takes considerable effort/pressure.
Aside from that, I can understand why you're unhappy with the car.
What about the parking brake?? It is strictly mechanical - not dependant upon other systems.
It could have been used to slow the car down.
Also, the brakes and steering will still function under an engine failure, but it takes considerable effort/pressure.
Aside from that, I can understand why you're unhappy with the car.
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cliffybabe, didn't you have your fuel pump replaced already. The dealer obviously didn't do an adequate job hooking it up. Don't blame MB.(see this thread)
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Yeah I have had a hole new fuel system tech's from Germany come to my local service centre and done the work.
Now I just want another car as I no longer wish to driver mine, but now whether I get a sedan or Coupe or even a CLK I dont know what to do just wanted my Merc got it and I don't want it back.
I have got a case as this is the 3rd time with the same fault and now I have got to fit it.
Now I just want another car as I no longer wish to driver mine, but now whether I get a sedan or Coupe or even a CLK I dont know what to do just wanted my Merc got it and I don't want it back.
I have got a case as this is the 3rd time with the same fault and now I have got to fit it.
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Originally posted by RedC230K
Cliffy,
What about the parking brake?? It is strictly mechanical - not dependant upon other systems.
It could have been used to slow the car down.
Also, the brakes and steering will still function under an engine failure, but it takes considerable effort/pressure
Cliffy,
What about the parking brake?? It is strictly mechanical - not dependant upon other systems.
It could have been used to slow the car down.
Also, the brakes and steering will still function under an engine failure, but it takes considerable effort/pressure
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I'm glad to hear youre OK, but you need to think this thru...the brakes will continue to work, even with fuel on them(they work in the rain don't they?), the steering only locks if you remove the key(yeah, like the brakes it takes more effort, but that's due to the lack of vacuum assist and hydraulic assist), and the auto trans will still downshift without the engine running, and you do have the parking brake if you get really desperate.
Yeah, demand a new car...they will NEVER get the smell out of that car after spraying gallons of diesel around.
Yeah, demand a new car...they will NEVER get the smell out of that car after spraying gallons of diesel around.
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Same problem occured to me yesterday when I cruised the highway. I Kicked down to get past a truck, and when I'm halfway past the EPC came up and as for you my engione died. But I still had the steering servo. The brakes I don't know about cause I didn't use them. I managed to roll off the highway by putting the shift in "N" and without engine power I had the freakiest luck and rolled all the way into a parking space in front of a gas-station. Meanwhile I was rolling I stried to start the car up but it didn't work. I got out of the car and wnt to buy a coke, to get my fustration away =) And whwn I got back the car started up just fine. But after some seconds the EPC-error message came up again, so I shut the engine off. I finished my coke and started it up again. No problems what so ever. Worked fine for two days now.
*I drive a E320 CDI -00*
*I drive a E320 CDI -00*
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Think it through?
"but you need to think this thru...the brakes will continue to work, even with fuel on them(they work in the rain don't they?),"
While the brakes will work with water on them (after scrubbing the discs dry) that's not what happens if you put diesel on the brakes.Diesel fuel is OIL,and once it gets on the brakes,the only cure is to thoroughly clean the rotors and replace the pads with new ones.
While the brakes will work with water on them (after scrubbing the discs dry) that's not what happens if you put diesel on the brakes.Diesel fuel is OIL,and once it gets on the brakes,the only cure is to thoroughly clean the rotors and replace the pads with new ones.
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If there is any diesel on the brake pads - demand they rebuild the brake system. Really....Claipers, Pads, Cut the rotors, replace the front hub seals.
Also if the shocks got diesel on the seals.....
Once the brake pads soak up oil they have had it, if the fuel oil got into the caliper seals they are gone. If diesel got onto the brake lines...
In fact, tell them to take the dam car back, they fu@*ed it up and nearly caused you harm. I would hate to have to stear into a ditch at highway speeds.
Ed
Also if the shocks got diesel on the seals.....
Once the brake pads soak up oil they have had it, if the fuel oil got into the caliper seals they are gone. If diesel got onto the brake lines...
In fact, tell them to take the dam car back, they fu@*ed it up and nearly caused you harm. I would hate to have to stear into a ditch at highway speeds.
Ed
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Re: Think it through?
Originally posted by Steve Clark
"but you need to think this thru...the brakes will continue to work, even with fuel on them(they work in the rain don't they?),"
While the brakes will work with water on them (after scrubbing the discs dry) that's not what happens if you put diesel on the brakes.Diesel fuel is OIL,and once it gets on the brakes,the only cure is to thoroughly clean the rotors and replace the pads with new ones.
"but you need to think this thru...the brakes will continue to work, even with fuel on them(they work in the rain don't they?),"
While the brakes will work with water on them (after scrubbing the discs dry) that's not what happens if you put diesel on the brakes.Diesel fuel is OIL,and once it gets on the brakes,the only cure is to thoroughly clean the rotors and replace the pads with new ones.
2. The brakes will still work with diesel fuel on them.
3. This is a year old post.
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"1. He said he couldn't stop"
-No,he said he had NO BRAKES"...and I've no doubt that it felt that way in the ensuing moments of confusion after things went south.
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"2. The brakes will still work with diesel fuel on them."
-All he had was his rear brakes,and NO power assist,as the engine had stopped running;what little vacuum that was still in the accumulator was probably lost by applying pressure to the useless oiled up front brake pads.
Once again...diesel fuel is OIL,and once it gets on the friction material(brake pads),the pads are not going to do much good.Rear brakes alone w/o any brake boost won't be very effective in stopping a car.If you don't believe me,go squirt some diesel on your front brakes and see what happens.
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"3. This is a year old post"
-I wasn't the one who resurrected this post from last year.
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BTW-Vadim also seems to think of diesel as a lubricator.
-No,he said he had NO BRAKES"...and I've no doubt that it felt that way in the ensuing moments of confusion after things went south.
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"2. The brakes will still work with diesel fuel on them."
-All he had was his rear brakes,and NO power assist,as the engine had stopped running;what little vacuum that was still in the accumulator was probably lost by applying pressure to the useless oiled up front brake pads.
Once again...diesel fuel is OIL,and once it gets on the friction material(brake pads),the pads are not going to do much good.Rear brakes alone w/o any brake boost won't be very effective in stopping a car.If you don't believe me,go squirt some diesel on your front brakes and see what happens.
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"3. This is a year old post"
-I wasn't the one who resurrected this post from last year.
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BTW-Vadim also seems to think of diesel as a lubricator.
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Glad you are ok....
My guess is because both the brake and the steering are power assisted so when the engine shuts down they don't work.
Going 80mph and again EPC error appeared on the LCD display, I had no brakes, no steering the engine shut down.
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Originally posted by Steve Clark
"1. He said he couldn't stop"
-No,he said he had NO BRAKES"...and I've no doubt that it felt that way in the ensuing moments of confusion after things went south.
"1. He said he couldn't stop"
-No,he said he had NO BRAKES"...and I've no doubt that it felt that way in the ensuing moments of confusion after things went south.
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"2. The brakes will still work with diesel fuel on them."
-All he had was his rear brakes
"2. The brakes will still work with diesel fuel on them."
-All he had was his rear brakes
,and NO power assist,as the engine had stopped running;what little vacuum that was still in the accumulator was probably lost by applying pressure to the useless oiled up front brake pads.
Once again...diesel fuel is OIL,
and once it gets on the friction material(brake pads),the pads are not going to do much good.
Rear brakes alone w/o any brake boost won't be very effective in stopping a car.If you don't believe me,go squirt some diesel on your front brakes and see what happens.
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"3. This is a year old post"
-I wasn't the one who resurrected this post from last year.
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BTW-Vadim also seems to think of diesel as a lubricator.
"3. This is a year old post"
-I wasn't the one who resurrected this post from last year.
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BTW-Vadim also seems to think of diesel as a lubricator.
