C-Class (W203) 2001-2007, C160, C180, C200, C220, C230, C240, C270, C280, C300, C320, C230K, C350, Coupe

Okay, who effed up my rotors?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 06-13-2014, 06:45 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
scottonfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
Posts: 322
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
2013 c250
Okay, who effed up my rotors?

The guy I bought the FRONT rotors from said I didn't need them 'coated'. The guy who installed the FRONT rotors/akebono ceramic brake pads seemed to know what he was doing, but then again he was a mobile indy mechanic. Are the brake pads installed wrong (check out the groove being etched into the inner part of the rotor) or would coated rotors have stopped this? Also, the rust is ONLY driver side, passenger side pic. I'll include 2nd so you can get a better look at the groove being etched into both rotors.
Okay, who effed up my rotors?-3lmyexk.jpgOkay, who effed up my rotors?-e8fb0pl.jpg
Old 06-13-2014, 06:57 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,002
Likes: 0
Received 377 Likes on 342 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
As i see, this is an ordinary corrosion, water/dust/humidity,,

this area doesn't contact to anything, you can clean & paint them...

ZAYED,,
Old 06-13-2014, 09:00 PM
  #3  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Something is wrong with pad movement (fitment or wrong pad). It is allowing material to be scuffed off of the rotor hat creating a groove.
Old 06-13-2014, 10:44 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
scottonfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
Posts: 322
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
2013 c250
Thx, Glyn. I thought it looked weird towards the inside of the rotors. Those front brake pads are Akebono 1121 and I double checked that they'd be compatible. Is it possible the rotors are wrong? All I really know about the rotors is they're cross drilled and not coated.

What should I do???
Old 06-13-2014, 11:01 PM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
cm60k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A.D., U.A.E
Posts: 7,002
Likes: 0
Received 377 Likes on 342 Posts
00 C200 & 00 C55 & 06 SLK55
You have cross drilled Rotors, that reflects your C230 is sport isn't..?,

do you know if your Rotors are OEM...?, bad aftermarket Rotors may cause that strange grooves...!!

Okay, who effed up my rotors?-2034211312.jpg

ZAYED,,
Old 06-14-2014, 07:45 AM
  #6  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
I suggest you drive past a dealer's used lot & go & have a look at a Sport & see if you can see any difference in pad protrusion or rotor hat size/shape/fitment.
Old 06-14-2014, 12:00 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Boom vang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,105
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2019 C300 Wagon; '75 Triumph TR6; previous: 2004 C230 6spd sold after 17 years of driving
They look pretty normal to me, once the pads bed in you will have even coverage and will eliminate the cross-hatching
Old 06-14-2014, 05:27 PM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
LILBENZ230's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,384
Received 794 Likes on 597 Posts
2019 G70 6MT & 2022 Ford Maverick XL
Looks pretty normal to me, as well IIRC on 4 brake jobs on my 05 Sport.
Old 06-14-2014, 08:14 PM
  #9  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
The cross hatched braking surface of the rotor looks fine.

I thought the OP was talking about THIS (red) which looks like something is touching. Might just be finished that way. If this is worrying you put some black marker over it & see if it scuffs off.

Attached Thumbnails Okay, who effed up my rotors?-rotor-touch.jpg  
Old 06-14-2014, 10:09 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Boom vang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,105
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2019 C300 Wagon; '75 Triumph TR6; previous: 2004 C230 6spd sold after 17 years of driving
I think it was just made that way. If something was touching it to grind out a grove (red arrow), you would hear the noise immediately and would be very loud, think the owner would know something is wrong right away,
Old 06-14-2014, 11:58 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
scottonfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
Posts: 322
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
2013 c250
Okay, I'm feeling better now. Especially since the back rotors are looking like this too! phew! So now I'm back to my rust situation. Any type of spray I can put on without taking off the wheels?
Old 06-15-2014, 10:58 AM
  #12  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
I suggest you do a bed in procedure as explained on the Stoptech website here.

http://www.stoptech.com/technical-su...and-procedures

To prevent rusting you need to take the wheels off & spray the hats etc. with a cold zinc spray such as the Wurth product:

Attached Images  
Old 06-15-2014, 01:20 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
ncmudbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 1,425
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
2005 C230K, 2016 Honda CR-V, '74 Lotus Europa
Somebody mentioned he was painting the hats of his brake disks and I replied that he was being a bit **** as I had never worried about it before nor knew anybody else who did. Then I saw the rust on my hats! The open spoke pattern of the wheels makes it really easy to see. I did paint my wife's with silver spray paint and it looks better but it isn't particularly good against rust so it's showing through a little. If I had used a good primer, it probably would have worked better.

Glyn's suggestion is probably much better.
Old 06-15-2014, 05:33 PM
  #14  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
I would far rather have this which is durable & looks OE:





Than this:

Attached Thumbnails Okay, who effed up my rotors?-imag0234.jpg   Okay, who effed up my rotors?-imag0235.jpg   Okay, who effed up my rotors?-20130817_194132_zpsd4e0277d.jpg  

Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 06-15-2014 at 05:35 PM.
Old 06-15-2014, 05:56 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
ncmudbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 1,425
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
2005 C230K, 2016 Honda CR-V, '74 Lotus Europa
Looks great, Glyn! That's the stuff to get!
Old 06-15-2014, 06:32 PM
  #16  
Out Of Control!!
 
tommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Westwood, NJ
Posts: 10,067
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
Get por15 to stop the rust, then paint caliper paint over top of that. I'd have to say that those things glyn posted look like they belong on a delorian.
Old 06-15-2014, 06:49 PM
  #17  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Originally Posted by tommy
Get por15 to stop the rust, then paint caliper paint over top of that. I'd have to say that those things glyn posted look like they belong on a delorian.
You are full of crap That is Vic Viper's W204 wagon.

Last edited by Glyn M Ruck; 06-15-2014 at 06:53 PM.
Old 06-15-2014, 11:12 PM
  #18  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Boom vang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,105
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2019 C300 Wagon; '75 Triumph TR6; previous: 2004 C230 6spd sold after 17 years of driving
oh to have a salt free climate, no amount of zinc spray will prevent rusting in my climate. My new rotors from MB came looking like that and after a couple months in the snow and salt spray they look like your 3rd picture

looks like the tires are severely undersized for the rims
Old 06-16-2014, 06:38 AM
  #19  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Yes ~ Vic has got a big stretch going there. The Wurth spray provides far better corrosion resistance than the Benz original finish.

Vic is in Sweden so not a dissimilar climate. I have done a salt spray test in our lab & the Wurth material is quite impressive. The Zinc becomes a galvanic anode.
Old 06-16-2014, 08:10 AM
  #20  
Out Of Control!!
 
tommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Westwood, NJ
Posts: 10,067
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
2004 Civic Si. FWD for the Win!
I couldn't trust myself with that much metal exposed, just waiting for curbs.

Do they not have potholes in Sweden?
Old 06-16-2014, 11:08 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
scottonfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
Posts: 322
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
2013 c250
So I plan to paint the inner (rusted) part of the rotor with gray engine enamel (works in high heat). HERE'S THE PROBLEM (I think)- If I take off the calipers to have access to the whole rotor (to paint), will it be easy to reinstall them in the same position or will they shift slightly and not fall into the groove??? I feel like that could be bad, but I'm just not sure and don't wanna take a risk with brake power.
Thx,
Old 06-16-2014, 11:50 PM
  #22  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Boom vang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,105
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2019 C300 Wagon; '75 Triumph TR6; previous: 2004 C230 6spd sold after 17 years of driving
Originally Posted by scottonfire
So I plan to paint the inner (rusted) part of the rotor with gray engine enamel (works in high heat). HERE'S THE PROBLEM (I think)- If I take off the calipers to have access to the whole rotor (to paint), will it be easy to reinstall them in the same position or will they shift slightly and not fall into the groove??? I feel like that could be bad, but I'm just not sure and don't wanna take a risk with brake power.
Thx,
if you are asking a question like this then you should not be doing work on your brakes yourself, besides you probably don't have the correct tools to do the job and the proper set up to do it safely.

Those in the know, know; those that don't, guess. So what I am saying unless you know what you are doing, have the tools and mechanical ability then the job is simple, but based on the question that you posed obviously you don't have the experience in working on cars and really should not attempt it unless you have some supervision from someone that has experience. While brakes are fundamentally one of the simplest components to work on it is without reason that you have to know what you are doing as the consequences are so great if you get it wrong

Last edited by Boom vang; 06-16-2014 at 11:57 PM.
Old 06-17-2014, 12:02 AM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Boom vang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,105
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
2019 C300 Wagon; '75 Triumph TR6; previous: 2004 C230 6spd sold after 17 years of driving
Originally Posted by tommy
I couldn't trust myself with that much metal exposed, just waiting for curbs.

Do they not have potholes in Sweden?
the potholes in Toronto would make mincemeat of those rims in a 3km drive. Even with 40 series it is killer on the tires and rims here
Old 06-17-2014, 01:24 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
scottonfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
Posts: 322
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
2013 c250
Originally Posted by Boom vang
if you are asking a question like this then you should not be doing work on your brakes yourself, besides you probably don't have the correct tools to do the job and the proper set up to do it safely.

Those in the know, know; those that don't, guess. So what I am saying unless you know what you are doing, have the tools and mechanical ability then the job is simple, but based on the question that you posed obviously you don't have the experience in working on cars and really should not attempt it unless you have some supervision from someone that has experience. While brakes are fundamentally one of the simplest components to work on it is without reason that you have to know what you are doing as the consequences are so great if you get it wrong
Thanks, but I'm not accepting applications for an overprotective parent. If anyone has answers and not pontificating in place of an answer, I'm all ears.

Last edited by scottonfire; 06-17-2014 at 01:41 AM.
Old 06-17-2014, 08:02 AM
  #25  
Super Moderator

 
Glyn M Ruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 19,941
Received 175 Likes on 142 Posts
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Originally Posted by scottonfire
So I plan to paint the inner (rusted) part of the rotor with gray engine enamel (works in high heat). HERE'S THE PROBLEM (I think)- If I take off the calipers to have access to the whole rotor (to paint), will it be easy to reinstall them in the same position or will they shift slightly and not fall into the groove??? I feel like that could be bad, but I'm just not sure and don't wanna take a risk with brake power.
Thx,
I would use zinc spray ahead of engine enamel. Yes it is expensive. You dont have to remove the calipers to paint. Just mask the caliper & spin/turn the rotor to paint. Don't worry about getting a little bit of zinc on the rotor braking surface. It will be scuffed off the first time you brake.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Okay, who effed up my rotors?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:46 AM.