m271 rich fuel mixture with adaptation in plus 201c P0172
So I've got a problem with mixture, as a result I have heavy on fuel and errors 201C P0172 - rich fuel mixture. I've spent too much time muself and in services to find the reason and have alredy replaced all possible things which could cause the problem.
I prepared to this post and made huge service work in advance (stop oil leakage to the harness, cam shaft magnets replacement, first O2 sensor replacement on new one, air flow sendor replacement on original new one, checked all connections in intake for some kinds of air leaks, system of recycling crankcase gases replaced: houses, valves, vacuum houses of cat heating system replaced)
For your information catalisators deleted from the system and O2 sensor after catalisator turned off electronically.
So what i have as of today:
-Low voltage on first O2 sensor 1000 mV istead 1500 mV (means rich mixture)
-big fuel consumption especially on idle and low speeds in traffic jams especially.
-self adaptations on idle and partial loads in plus
-fuel pressure 3,75 stable on idle rev
-idle rev is stable 750 rpm +-5
So the most hard for understanding is unlogical behaviour of ECM. We have as given by O2 sensor data - rich mixture and at the same time we see that ECM (ECU) trying to rich misture more
I have conducted some experiment where i arranged air leak inside the system and got high voltage of O2 sensor, and arranged air leak out and got low voltage o2 senser
Below some screenshots form StarDiag and my ELM327 of current data
Did anybody faced with such behaviour? What else i should check in your opinion?
P.S. sorry for mistakes in text and big pictures is it possible to make spoilers for pictures here?
Last edited by Gramm; Mar 26, 2016 at 06:25 AM.
So I've got a problem with mixture, as a result I have heavy on fuel and errors 201C P0172 - rich fuel mixture. I've spent too much time muself and in services to find the reason and have alredy replaced all possible things which could cause the problem.
I prepared to this post and made huge service work in advance (stop oil leakage to the harness, cam shaft magnets replacement, first O2 sensor replacement on new one, air flow sendor replacement on original new one, checked all connections in intake for some kinds of air leaks, system of recycling crankcase gases replaced: houses, valves, vacuum houses of cat heating system replaced)
For your information catalisators deleted from the system and O2 sensor after catalisator turned off electronically.
So what i have as of today:
-Low voltage on first O2 sensor 1000 mV istead 1500 mV (means rich mixture)
-big fuel consumption especially on idle and low speeds in traffic jams especially.
-self adaptations on idle and partial loads in plus
-fuel pressure 3,75 stable on idle rev
-idle rev is stable 750 rpm +-5
So the most hard for understanding is unlogical behaviour of ECM. We have as given by O2 sensor data - rich mixture and at the same time we see that ECM (ECU) trying to rich misture more
I have conducted some experiment where i arranged air leak inside the system and got high voltage of O2 sensor, and arranged air leak out and got low voltage o2 senser
Below some screenshots form StarDiag and my ELM327 of current data
Did anybody faced with such behaviour? What else i should check in your opinion?
P.S. sorry for mistakes in text and big pictures is it possible to make spoilers for pictures here?
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So I've got a problem with mixture, as a result I have heavy on fuel and errors 201C P0172 - rich fuel mixture. I've spent too much time muself and in services to find the reason and have alredy replaced all possible things which could cause the problem.
I prepared to this post and made huge service work in advance (stop oil leakage to the harness, cam shaft magnets replacement, first O2 sensor replacement on new one, air flow sendor replacement on original new one, checked all connections in intake for some kinds of air leaks, system of recycling crankcase gases replaced: houses, valves, vacuum houses of cat heating system replaced)
For your information catalisators deleted from the system and O2 sensor after catalisator turned off electronically.
So what i have as of today:
-Low voltage on first O2 sensor 1000 mV istead 1500 mV (means rich mixture)
-big fuel consumption especially on idle and low speeds in traffic jams especially.
-self adaptations on idle and partial loads in plus
-fuel pressure 3,75 stable on idle rev
-idle rev is stable 750 rpm +-5
So the most hard for understanding is unlogical behaviour of ECM. We have as given by O2 sensor data - rich mixture and at the same time we see that ECM (ECU) trying to rich misture more
I have conducted some experiment where i arranged air leak inside the system and got high voltage of O2 sensor, and arranged air leak out and got low voltage o2 senser
Below some screenshots form StarDiag and my ELM327 of current data
Did anybody faced with such behaviour? What else i should check in your opinion?
P.S. sorry for mistakes in text and big pictures is it possible to make spoilers for pictures here?
When the EGR is not passing (after starting for a short time), no more air passes to the exhaust, but the mixture self-adaptation means the mixture is still in a rich condition. The result is that the upstream oxygen sensor goes down to a low value (in my case, around 1V).
Solution:
- Erase the fault code.
- Disable the EGR valve: insert a blind nut into the hose connected to the EGR valve.
- Conduct a long ride.
Last edited by Canhcfc; Feb 18, 2025 at 11:54 AM. Reason: correct something






