wlsmith

previously owning a E220 CDI, new shape and now moving to this car (C270 CDI), which i prefer in every way, was wondering whether or not this car has a built in subwoofer, i have not got the harmon kardon sound system package, but i was wondering if it came with a stock sub, as the E220 came with a subwoofer, and i dont think that had the Uprated sound system, is it just the E's come with subs as standards and the Cs dont or do they both come with sub?

CitronC230K_03

i think the upgraded sound systems, Bose or H/K have the trunk mounted sub. i dont think the standard sound system has a sub.

Saprissa

Will, what year is your saloon ? (sedan, for non-UK/European MB speakers)

CitronC230K_03

lol, i thought he was talking about a bar in the old west! j/k

wlsmith

its a 2003, July registered 2003 in the UK

wlsmith

the only thing i dont like about it is the distortion i get, i think it must have been the Bose sound system in the E220, however i could have base and treble on 10 and max volume and get no distortion, however any treble and bass totally kills these speakers, however with bass and treble set to 0 i can have it on loudest volume without distortion

Saprissa

does the Audio 10 system in your car come with BOSE speakers (door and rear?)

What model sub (if any) is in the trunk, behind the carpeted compartments ? You should have access to that, and be able to tell
whether it's a BOSE sub or a stock sub.

wlsmith

how do i find out if i have the bose speakers in the doors?!? will it say in my owners manual? as i have already searched through this and found nothing, in the back there are like 2 speaker grates im not sure if theres a sub under here or if its just 2 more speakers?

wlsmith

oh do u mean actually in the boot of the car, like the carpet before the backseats?

tuscanraider

Yes, you must be careful driving your 230 home from a saloon. You don't want to get a DWI.

Saprissa

yeah, in the boot. Usually found on the side compartments, just forward of the back taillights. The access cover to the taillights should also lead to the sub-woofer on one of the sides, if a sub is installed.

The speakers on my 2003 model are BOSE, and it's easy to tell, because it says "BOSE" in gold-chrome right on the speaker grate.

wlsmith

will go have a look and get back 2 u give me 15mins or so!, also if the speakers are just standard and not BOSE, do u reckon i should get the harmon kardon system or go for aftermarket speakers and subs?

CitronC230K_03

my sub is on the right side of the car, in the boot. but i have the bose premium sound system.

wlsmith

well i looked in the boot and have found a sub, situated on the left upper side of the boot, does this mean i have the Bose sound system?

wlsmith

also if this is the case, then how come it sounds distorted if it has the same sound system as my E class did? are the E class systems uprated compared to the C class ones?!? cus with the E i could play it full bass and treble with no noticeable distortion, if i try this on my new car i get so much distortion, whats an optimal base/treble setting to play it at on full volume without distortion?

CitronC230K_03

i remember the setting was bhigher on the audio10 than the audio30. i would have mine set about 5 or so on my audio10 for the base setting.

Saprissa

what does the sub say ? mine is clearly marked with big white letters: "BOSE" I also have the Bose Premium Sound System.

I don't think any properly working sub should suffer from such distortion as you describe it. Whether it's a BOSE or not, there may be something wrong with the subwoofer.

I would take it to a radio/tech shop, and have them check it out for distortion and/or blown component(s).

CitronC230K_03

mine says bose as well, so do the speakers on the doors.

Saprissa

yeah, I've heard that the AUDIO 10 is much stronger than the AUDIO 30.

Will, try what CITRON says, and put the bass control at about mid-way point and see if that helps.

CitronC230K_03

yes Audio10 is so much more of an improvement over the Audio30. Sooooooooooo much! base setting of 4 or 5 on audio10 is like having base setting of 10 on audio30

Saprissa

I was just about to purchase an AUDIO 10 from Europe, when I decided to go for the EURO COMAND. I hear COMAND cd playback is halfway between Audio 30 and Audio 10. Although, I'll probably just keep all my music in the CD changer, or hook up the SAT function to SIRIUS or something.

Doug, how would you compare COMAND playback (bass) vs Audio 10 & Audio 30 since you've had 'em all ?

wlsmith

ok, ill try bass on 5 maximum what about Treble what shall i set that to?

CitronC230K_03

i dont remember! i think about 4 or 5 as well. i havent had an audio10 for over a year, and im not a really big audiophile anyhow.

CitronC230K_03

Carlos, does Euro COMAND have the SAT function? i thought it was TV. i rate them Audio10, COMAND, Audio30. COMAND is a nice mid way between the two, but Audio10 was definately strong in sound, especially base.

wlsmith

shall i get harmon kardon to go with the audio 10 or shall i go aftermarket speakers and subs?