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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Question Bi-Xenon Install / 1k-3k Check up questions

OK i have a few qustions. I got my car about 1.5 months ago. i got exactly what i wanted in the car (ext color and interior color, 6 speed ect) but they were unable to get my car with the Bi-X. for some reason my car was the only mars/ash/6speed in socal. so i took what i could get because i needed a car. Any way. my dealer told me i could come back and have the Bi-X installed for around $1200 i figured cool, as long as i have the option and ability ill take the car.

So to make this part of my question shorter. i just called my dealer to get an appointment for the 1k-3k check up and to order the Bi-X and have it ready for install on my check up date. the service manager told me that my sales rep was incorrect and they could not install Bi-X, and it was a Factory only install. Im like WTF mate? i mentioned that plenty of people on here and other places have done it and it can be done but he NO!...

so whats the deal.. is this guy wrong? i would perfer MB install them just so they know there installed but if they are going to be dumb and not do it any places in socal i can go?

Also here is my other question:

Im ready for the check up as stated above, here is a list of problems i have found with the car. nothing realy major but im interested if any of these are common problems and or recalls, also if any one has had any of these problems.

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1) driver door dose not sit lvl with pass. door. sits about 1/4 inch higher
2) Pass. front tire will not hold air (just started last week) takes about 4 days to loose enough air to be noticable.
3) Driverside auto-up dose not work but all others do
4) Some times the seatbelt chime goes off for no reason
5) Some times the little Triange with a "!" flashes and goes a way
6) buzzing sound around the B pilar when going over bumpy roads
7) steering wheel is not straight.. at first i thought it was just me.. but when the wheels are perfectly straight the steering wheel is rotated to the right a bit. or when driving if i let go of the wheel, the car will go straight(dose not need an alignment) but the wheel will slowly trun to the right yet the car is moving straight..
8) 2 times i have started the car and it has started for a sec then just shut off. then i start it again and it runs fine.

other then that the car has been great.. most is small little petty things that just bug me.

anywho here is a pic of my car:


thanks in advance for the help
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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As I know, bi-xenon is not exactly "plug and play", you will need to go to the dealer to activate bi-xenon feature after you install the lights yourself.

Why don't you try to order a pair from ebay or other place, try to install it yourself (it's not that much of a trouble maker though) and then pay the dealer around 50-75 bucks to activate the thing up?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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5) Some times the little Triange with a "!" flashes and goes a way

I think that's ESP took over the control of the car, nothing wrong with it...
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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5) That's your ESP saving your **** from going off the road. It comes on when the wheels slip.
7) You probably need an alignment. Mine was pulling to the right a little and got aligned yesterday, now it's fine. Make sure they don't try to charge you, it's free before 12k miles.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:23 AM
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Bi Xenon question

ok, so they are BI xenons right, meaning that both high and low beam are supposed to be xenons right.

so why does it only look like that the low beam is xenon and when i press the high beam on it looks like a normal beam, doesnt have that whiter look that the low has???

also, just when looking at the lights, u can obviously see the low is the projector look, why not the HIgh
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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If I understand correctly, the "bi" part means that they rotate or swivel as your turn your car. To project the light more in the direction your going.

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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:35 AM
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"bi" does not mean they arc left and right. belle, you're referring to "active" headlights found on the e-class.

vdub, the bi-xenon high beams are actually four bulbs at once. if you notice that if you high beam without your lights on, just the center two conventional halogen lights in the center will come on. however, if you high beam with your lights on, the conventional halogen lights will come on as well as the xenon projector being arced upwards--so, you actually get a double high beam. the reason why the conventional halogens are there is to allow you to high beam instantly in the day without waiting for the xenons to "power up".
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:37 AM
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Whoops ...... thanks for the correction... I feal
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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Whoops ...... thanks for the correction... I feal
hey, it's all good... that's what this board is for. no need to feel that way.




j/k about the correction.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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thanks guys. i never knew what the orange triangle thing was.

as for the Bi-X i guess ill have to find out what the dealer says on tuesday. i would perfer to have the dealer install it just because i dont trust any one regarding warr. issues.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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thanks guys...good question and good answer...I wondered that myself
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Belle the Benz
If I understand correctly, the "bi" part means that they rotate or swivel as your turn your car. To project the light more in the direction your going.
those lights are called active corning lights.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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the BiX (BiXenon) lights are plug and play. you will jsut need to have you computer set to Xenon=Present at the dealer.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
the BiX (BiXenon) lights are plug and play. you will jsut need to have you computer set to Xenon=Present at the dealer.

ok, so if i go there and they wont install the lights for me ill just have them turn the computer to Xenon=Present. and buy the lights and install them at home.

thanks.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Do U.S. cars with BiXenon lamps get the little motor and sensor attached to the sway bar? The motor adjusts the lights up and down. Could this be a feature only required in Europe, like heated headlight washers?
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
ok, so if i go there and they wont install the lights for me ill just have them turn the computer to Xenon=Present. and buy the lights and install them at home.
...that is A possibility...

greetingz,
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Bi-Xenon mis-information

<<vdub, the bi-xenon high beams are actually four bulbs at once. if you notice that if you high beam without your lights on, just the center two conventional halogen lights in the center will come on. however, if you high beam with your lights on, the conventional halogen lights will come on as well as the xenon projector being arced upwards--so, you actually get a double high beam. the reason why the conventional halogens are there is to allow you to high beam instantly in the day without waiting for the xenons to "power up">>

Good answer EXCEPT the part about four bulbs at once. The xenon bulb in the main section is one bulb and has no filament and does not move up, down or sideways. On low beam, a little solenoid controlled shutter covers the top half of the bulb. When you select high beam or flash with the lights on, the shutter instantly lifts, uncovering the entire bulb thus providing the high beam function, Since the xenon bulb takes a moment to illuminate, much like a fluorescent lamp, it cannot be flashed. And that is why the inner halogen H7 lamp is there which BTW I have changed from 55W to 70W which makes a noticeable difference.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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The interesting thing is, as an example, my Mazda 3 has Xenon head lights. They do not call them Bi-Xenon, just plain old Xenon.
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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thats so cool RLE, i wonder if i can see the shutter move with my naked eye, LOL

my 01 and 98 cars both have xenons too, but were never labeled bi xenons, , does this just mean that when i do the HI beam, that the xenon (lo) beam wont arc up
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Plain old Xenon vs Bi-Xenon

<<my 01 and 98 cars both have xenons too, but were never labeled bi xenons, , does this just mean that when i do the HI beam, that the xenon (lo) beam wont arc up>>

They won't because they weren't. My '01 C320's OE Xenon headlights were low beam only (like yours) and the high was provided by the inner halogen bulb. I have converted my car to Bi-Xenon by replacing the entire assembly with an '04 part. Because the car already had xenons, it was a plug and play operation and the light levelling function continued normally. The difference between the two lamps is substantial and it was expensive. But, between the Bi-Xenons, the C36 wheels, the W211 mirror lights, the '05 grille and the '05 taillights, only an expert can tell what year the car is without looking inside. The tipoff is the non-clear foglights, of course. Which I have given up updating because no one knows for sure what the part number might be.
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Originally Posted by RLE
<<vdub, the bi-xenon high beams are actually four bulbs at once. if you notice that if you high beam without your lights on, just the center two conventional halogen lights in the center will come on. however, if you high beam with your lights on, the conventional halogen lights will come on as well as the xenon projector being arced upwards--so, you actually get a double high beam. the reason why the conventional halogens are there is to allow you to high beam instantly in the day without waiting for the xenons to "power up">>

Good answer EXCEPT the part about four bulbs at once. The xenon bulb in the main section is one bulb and has no filament and does not move up, down or sideways. On low beam, a little solenoid controlled shutter covers the top half of the bulb. When you select high beam or flash with the lights on, the shutter instantly lifts, uncovering the entire bulb thus providing the high beam function, Since the xenon bulb takes a moment to illuminate, much like a fluorescent lamp, it cannot be flashed. And that is why the inner halogen H7 lamp is there which BTW I have changed from 55W to 70W which makes a noticeable difference.
Oh, cool, my mistake. Thanks for the clarification!
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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I'm wondering what the rear axel sensor is for? I thought that sensor should be on the front left and right rather than one in front and one in the back.
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Originally Posted by Phoebusvh
I'm wondering what the rear axel sensor is for? I thought that sensor should be on the front left and right rather than one in front and one in the back.
maybe the one in the front senses left/right and the one in the back senses tilt up/down?
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