W204 Owners - Post how much you paid for it
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LOADED 08' C350 & 14' GLK-350 Diamond White (P1, MM, AMG Pkg, Ln Trkng, Htd Sts, Keylss Go)
2008 C350 Sport
Exterior Color: Arctic White
Interior Color: Black (Non-Leather)
Wood Trims: Black Birdseye Maple
Options:
Panorama Sunroof
18" AMG 5-Twin-Spoke Wheels
Packages:
P2: Premium II
Multimedia Package
MSRP: $43,575
I Pay only $38,889, over $4685 in savings of MSRP
I am leasing with the option to own and will not end up spending more than $42K after tax and tags over the 4 year lease and I will own the car...
What do you guys think? is this a good deal or should i negotiate further...
the car is supposed to arrive nov 15th
Exterior Color: Arctic White
Interior Color: Black (Non-Leather)
Wood Trims: Black Birdseye Maple
Options:
Panorama Sunroof
18" AMG 5-Twin-Spoke Wheels
Packages:
P2: Premium II
Multimedia Package
MSRP: $43,575
I Pay only $38,889, over $4685 in savings of MSRP
I am leasing with the option to own and will not end up spending more than $42K after tax and tags over the 4 year lease and I will own the car...
What do you guys think? is this a good deal or should i negotiate further...
the car is supposed to arrive nov 15th
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2010 Prius & Miata MX5 PRHT, 2010 Toyota Venza AWD, 05 C55 AMG, Yamaha 1100 Custom, Honda 250 Reflex
2008 C350 Sport
MSRP: $43,575
I Pay only $38,889, over $4685 in savings of MSRP
I am leasing with the option to own and will not end up spending more than $42K after tax and tags over the 4 year lease and I will own the car...
What do you guys think? is this a good deal or should i negotiate further...
the car is supposed to arrive nov 15th
MSRP: $43,575
I Pay only $38,889, over $4685 in savings of MSRP
I am leasing with the option to own and will not end up spending more than $42K after tax and tags over the 4 year lease and I will own the car...
What do you guys think? is this a good deal or should i negotiate further...
the car is supposed to arrive nov 15th
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From: Cal
2008 c350 (soon), 2002 M5, 2000 540i
I asked the dealer (and my experience with all dealers is, if their lips are moving, they are lying) and he assured me it is coming from Germany and that no 350s are made in SA.
I called MBUSA and the rep hemmed and hawed and never gave an answer.
So, how do I tell, without having a VIN yet, where it is produced?
I'm leaning toward cancelling if it is built in East London, SA.
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From: San Antonio
2008 C350
It is the same car, regardless of where it is made....but if you want to know ask your dealer to pull up the batch info in NetStar and they can tell you exactly where it will be made from that.
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'08 C 300 Sport, '01 SL 500 & '08 Nissan Frontier SE Crew Cab 4WD
If you hate the job so much, why don't you get another one?
I don't want to work with a salesman who has such a negative view of his customers. I guess some of YOUR kind made the profession less-than-noble for the consumers. Next time, don't be so quick to point the finger. You don't like dealing with the customer...trust me, dealing with the salesman at my local dealership isn't my ideal way of spending a Saturday. Moreover, if $300 is not a big deal, why don't you just deduct $300 from the price of the car when you sell it to the customer? Ah, it's all perspective.
-Mike
I don't want to work with a salesman who has such a negative view of his customers. I guess some of YOUR kind made the profession less-than-noble for the consumers. Next time, don't be so quick to point the finger. You don't like dealing with the customer...trust me, dealing with the salesman at my local dealership isn't my ideal way of spending a Saturday. Moreover, if $300 is not a big deal, why don't you just deduct $300 from the price of the car when you sell it to the customer? Ah, it's all perspective.
-Mike
-Mike you're comment on why doesn't the dealer just deduct $300.00 off the car? Because the guy trying to buy it will counter with why can't you take another $300.00 off and so on and so on.... I just try to play personally as fair as possible and believe in karma. In my business I don't get people bartering and wheeling and dealing we provide a service and our good name, attention to detail and referral program are benchmark in the area in short business is good despite the economy. I don't weasel car dealers down, Stores any place of business earning their business as I do and in return life has been great, I try not to do to others what I personally wouldn't want done to me or my business.
When I was a car salesman, and yeah I was forced to do that job as I was unexcpectedly laid off from my insurance adjusting job of six years prior with bills, condo, car payments etc and no game plan had to do something and had always been good in sales so I sold Dodges for a while
-Ryan
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From: Kirkland, WA
c300
I see where you're coming from, but like all things there's a balance. I don't know how much you make, but if I can go into the dealer and negotiate the price of a car for an hour and save >$1000 that's a pretty good time expenditure for me. I'm on salary. I don't make $500 an hour. Now, if I'm doing this for weeks on end, or I'm driving all over the place, sure there's a point where my time is worth more than the effort. But I'll give up an hour to save $1000. If you take the point of view that that $1000 is spread over a financing term, it may not seem like much, but money is money and nobody got rich spending it.
I'll concede that there comes a point where negotiating becomes a silly waste of time. But having a family full of sales people, I know that all large purchases are negotiable. And I know that there comes a point when they have to walk away from a sale when there's no profit in it for them. That's negotiation though.
Ryan, that's cool that you have the leverage that you don't have to ever negotiate, but you come across as having the attitude that anybody who does is beneath you socially and that negotiating price is a bad thing.
I'll concede that there comes a point where negotiating becomes a silly waste of time. But having a family full of sales people, I know that all large purchases are negotiable. And I know that there comes a point when they have to walk away from a sale when there's no profit in it for them. That's negotiation though.
Ryan, that's cool that you have the leverage that you don't have to ever negotiate, but you come across as having the attitude that anybody who does is beneath you socially and that negotiating price is a bad thing.
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2010 Prius & Miata MX5 PRHT, 2010 Toyota Venza AWD, 05 C55 AMG, Yamaha 1100 Custom, Honda 250 Reflex
That's so funny! 
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'08 C 300 Sport, '01 SL 500 & '08 Nissan Frontier SE Crew Cab 4WD
I see where you're coming from, but like all things there's a balance. I don't know how much you make, but if I can go into the dealer and negotiate the price of a car for an hour and save >$1000 that's a pretty good time expenditure for me. I'm on salary. I don't make $500 an hour. Now, if I'm doing this for weeks on end, or I'm driving all over the place, sure there's a point where my time is worth more than the effort. But I'll give up an hour to save $1000. If you take the point of view that that $1000 is spread over a financing term, it may not seem like much, but money is money and nobody got rich spending it.
I'll concede that there comes a point where negotiating becomes a silly waste of time. But having a family full of sales people, I know that all large purchases are negotiable. And I know that there comes a point when they have to walk away from a sale when there's no profit in it for them. That's negotiation though.
Ryan, that's cool that you have the leverage that you don't have to ever negotiate, but you come across as having the attitude that anybody who does is beneath you socially and that negotiating price is a bad thing.
I'll concede that there comes a point where negotiating becomes a silly waste of time. But having a family full of sales people, I know that all large purchases are negotiable. And I know that there comes a point when they have to walk away from a sale when there's no profit in it for them. That's negotiation though.
Ryan, that's cool that you have the leverage that you don't have to ever negotiate, but you come across as having the attitude that anybody who does is beneath you socially and that negotiating price is a bad thing.
-Ryan
Last edited by CarGuru; Oct 10, 2007 at 02:01 PM.
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From: Cal
2008 c350 (soon), 2002 M5, 2000 540i
Tex, thanks for the info, I'll call him today. You're probably right about it being the same car.
Maybe I'm a traditionalist in some ways, I like to see "Made in Germany" on a German machine.
On pricing, I think it is ingrained into the public consciouness to negociate some type of discount with vehicles, sort of a game that some play better than others.
In my case, my deal took about 5 minutes after the test drive. On my first visit, my wife and I test drove (the car is for her) with one of the long time salespersons. During it, I casually asked "what kind of numbers are we talking", he looked at me and said $600 over invoice. I left and came back to test drive again with a newbie salesperson, she said immediately stated "all these cars are MSRP period." My wife said $600 over invoice. The salesperson left, came back and said OK. No games, no BS, I was surprised.
Of course, I realize the 'invoice' is not a true invoice, but, we left feeling good, and I took a gander at a used AMG on the lot, so, their working with me may have developed a future customer.
Last edited by mr_lebec; Oct 10, 2007 at 04:24 PM.
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LOADED 08' C350 & 14' GLK-350 Diamond White (P1, MM, AMG Pkg, Ln Trkng, Htd Sts, Keylss Go)
i emailed 30 different dealers and said i was only paying true invoice and only half of their holdback... then gave a really lowball offer...
of the handful of dealers that emailed back with counter offers, I countered back then used the counter of the counters to show to other dealers and make them beat the others price... i did this a few times until one got in my range
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c300 sport
Tex, thanks for the info, I'll call him today. You're probably right about it being the same car.
Maybe I'm a traditionalist in some ways, I like to see "Made in Germany" on a German machine.
On pricing, I think it is ingrained into the public consciouness to negociate some type of discount with vehicles, sort of a game that some play better than others.
In my case, my deal took about 5 minutes after the test drive. On my first visit, my wife and I test drove (the car is for her) with one of the long time salespersons. During it, I casually asked "what kind of numbers are we talking", he looked at me and said $600 over invoice. I left and came back to test drive again with a newbie salesperson, she said immediately stated "all these cars are MSRP period." My wife said $600 over invoice. The salesperson left, came back and said OK. No games, no BS, I was surprised.
Of course, I realize the 'invoice' is not a true invoice, but, we left feeling good, and I took a gander at a used AMG on the lot, so, their working with me may have developed a future customer.
Maybe I'm a traditionalist in some ways, I like to see "Made in Germany" on a German machine.
On pricing, I think it is ingrained into the public consciouness to negociate some type of discount with vehicles, sort of a game that some play better than others.
In my case, my deal took about 5 minutes after the test drive. On my first visit, my wife and I test drove (the car is for her) with one of the long time salespersons. During it, I casually asked "what kind of numbers are we talking", he looked at me and said $600 over invoice. I left and came back to test drive again with a newbie salesperson, she said immediately stated "all these cars are MSRP period." My wife said $600 over invoice. The salesperson left, came back and said OK. No games, no BS, I was surprised.
Of course, I realize the 'invoice' is not a true invoice, but, we left feeling good, and I took a gander at a used AMG on the lot, so, their working with me may have developed a future customer.
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From: Cal
2008 c350 (soon), 2002 M5, 2000 540i
The invoice they gave me was 35,980 for the C350, no options
+ 2744 for MultiMedia
+600 = 39,324
MSRP was 37,985 + 2950 MM = 40,935
As to what their real cost is, I have no way of knowing, but, I'm pretty certain the invoice they showed me is not their true cost, which is probably determined by some complicated formula involving location, amount of sales, length of time in business, holdbacks, incentives, credits, etc.
Anyway, as I said, I was happy to have something under MSRP
Last edited by mr_lebec; Oct 11, 2007 at 03:45 PM.
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2008 C350 Sport / Steel Gray / MM / AMG
Washington DC Area Dealer
08 / MB / C-Class / C350 / Steel Grey / Black MB Tex
Base - 36500
Multimedia Pkg - 2950
18" AMG Wheel Pkg - 1000
Metallic Paint - 710
Destination - 775
Total - 41935
Incentive - (500)
New Total - 41435
+ Tax / Tags / Freight
Total Cash Price Delivered - 43849.50
08 / MB / C-Class / C350 / Steel Grey / Black MB Tex
Base - 36500
Multimedia Pkg - 2950
18" AMG Wheel Pkg - 1000
Metallic Paint - 710
Destination - 775
Total - 41935
Incentive - (500)
New Total - 41435
+ Tax / Tags / Freight
Total Cash Price Delivered - 43849.50
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From: Colorado
08 E320 Bluetec
The Premium II package (option code 320) not only includes the 6 CD changer but states you CANNOT have option code 510 if you choose 320. Option code 510 is the CD changer. If someone is charging you for both 320 and 510, you had better end up with a place to shove 12 disks!
Does anyone know if the cd reads MP3 files off of a data disk?
For those of you who brought up the E-Class in this thread . . . I've been on the fence for an E so long I have that bar imprint in my thighs permanently! I REALLY like the looks of the new C-class but I had a little trouble with the size. The front seat wasn't that bad . . . but the back seat . . yikes. I'm just under 5'11" and I could feel my hair (and no, I don't have a Lyle Lovett doo) brushing on the headliner. I had a LOT of trouble getting in and out of the back too. I'm not thin but I'm not round either. For those of you about to say "well you won't be riding in the back anyway," it's just a test I do on any vehicle I buy. I want my passengers to be comfortable.
I like that the C300 2wd can burn E85. Has anyone tried it?
As for the debate on discounts that is interspersed in this thread, nobody will ever win that debate. You'll just **** each other off. Personally I like shooting for $500 to $1000 over invoice. When I got close to purchasing an E320 CDI, the dealer was going to go $500 under invoice and then subract whatever incentive there was at the time . . . but that was a couple of years ago when there was a temporary glut.
Does anyone know if the cd reads MP3 files off of a data disk?
For those of you who brought up the E-Class in this thread . . . I've been on the fence for an E so long I have that bar imprint in my thighs permanently! I REALLY like the looks of the new C-class but I had a little trouble with the size. The front seat wasn't that bad . . . but the back seat . . yikes. I'm just under 5'11" and I could feel my hair (and no, I don't have a Lyle Lovett doo) brushing on the headliner. I had a LOT of trouble getting in and out of the back too. I'm not thin but I'm not round either. For those of you about to say "well you won't be riding in the back anyway," it's just a test I do on any vehicle I buy. I want my passengers to be comfortable.
I like that the C300 2wd can burn E85. Has anyone tried it?
As for the debate on discounts that is interspersed in this thread, nobody will ever win that debate. You'll just **** each other off. Personally I like shooting for $500 to $1000 over invoice. When I got close to purchasing an E320 CDI, the dealer was going to go $500 under invoice and then subract whatever incentive there was at the time . . . but that was a couple of years ago when there was a temporary glut.
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2002 Subaru WRX Wagon, 2008 Subaru Outback Wagon, 1958 MGA Roadster
On what model? Neither the 2008 "build your car" web site nor the printed brochure have package numbers. We have the C300 Sport with Premium Package II, and it does not include the 6-disk changer. The window sticker lists the P2 as code P02. The changer is included with the Multimedia package, and chosing the MM package says that you cannot also select the 6-disk changer.
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From: Colorado
08 E320 Bluetec
On what model? Neither the 2008 "build your car" web site nor the printed brochure have package numbers. We have the C300 Sport with Premium Package II, and it does not include the 6-disk changer. The window sticker lists the P2 as code P02. The changer is included with the Multimedia package, and chosing the MM package says that you cannot also select the 6-disk changer.
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From: San Antonio
2008 C350
The Premium II package (option code 320) not only includes the 6 CD changer but states you CANNOT have option code 510 if you choose 320. Option code 510 is the CD changer. If someone is charging you for both 320 and 510, you had better end up with a place to shove 12 disks!
