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Old 10-01-2007, 04:16 PM
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MSRP 40,935 (37,985 + 2,950 MM)

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... sounds about right if it is coming from Africa...
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2008 C350 Sport
Exterior Color: Arctic White
Interior Color: Black (Non-Leather)
Wood Trims: Black Birdseye Maple
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MSRP: $43,575
I Pay only $38,889, over $4685 in savings of MSRP


I am leasing with the option to own and will not end up spending more than $42K after tax and tags over the 4 year lease and I will own the car...

What do you guys think? is this a good deal or should i negotiate further...

the car is supposed to arrive nov 15th
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:29 AM
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wut the.. is that a military discount or something?
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2008 C350 Sport

MSRP: $43,575
I Pay only $38,889, over $4685 in savings of MSRP


I am leasing with the option to own and will not end up spending more than $42K after tax and tags over the 4 year lease and I will own the car...

What do you guys think? is this a good deal or should i negotiate further...

the car is supposed to arrive nov 15th
That's a hefty discount, if not the biggest one we have heard so far.
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Easily the biggest discount so far...who did you sleep with to get that?
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Please post dealer info. That's a great discount.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottyGams View Post
... sounds about right if it is coming from Africa...

I asked the dealer (and my experience with all dealers is, if their lips are moving, they are lying) and he assured me it is coming from Germany and that no 350s are made in SA.

I called MBUSA and the rep hemmed and hawed and never gave an answer.

So, how do I tell, without having a VIN yet, where it is produced?

I'm leaning toward cancelling if it is built in East London, SA.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:57 AM
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So, how do I tell, without having a VIN yet, where it is produced?

I'm leaning toward cancelling if it is built in East London, SA.
It is the same car, regardless of where it is made....but if you want to know ask your dealer to pull up the batch info in NetStar and they can tell you exactly where it will be made from that.
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If you hate the job so much, why don't you get another one?

I don't want to work with a salesman who has such a negative view of his customers. I guess some of YOUR kind made the profession less-than-noble for the consumers. Next time, don't be so quick to point the finger. You don't like dealing with the customer...trust me, dealing with the salesman at my local dealership isn't my ideal way of spending a Saturday. Moreover, if $300 is not a big deal, why don't you just deduct $300 from the price of the car when you sell it to the customer? Ah, it's all perspective.

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Dude I sit at this computer for about 2-3 hours a day that is oh...say two bedrooms from my master bedroom, I haven't been a car salesman in 7-8 years, my point earlier is that at some point just buy the car you want is it really worth spending $100 gas +/- your valuable time? If I'm out looking and haggling cars my current business is losing money, as valuable time I could be enjoying with my wife or on the greens. My car was one of the first ones delivered in the area, the dealer wanted MSRP we shook hands and I was happy as a clam.

-Mike you're comment on why doesn't the dealer just deduct $300.00 off the car? Because the guy trying to buy it will counter with why can't you take another $300.00 off and so on and so on.... I just try to play personally as fair as possible and believe in karma. In my business I don't get people bartering and wheeling and dealing we provide a service and our good name, attention to detail and referral program are benchmark in the area in short business is good despite the economy. I don't weasel car dealers down, Stores any place of business earning their business as I do and in return life has been great, I try not to do to others what I personally wouldn't want done to me or my business.

When I was a car salesman, and yeah I was forced to do that job as I was unexcpectedly laid off from my insurance adjusting job of six years prior with bills, condo, car payments etc and no game plan had to do something and had always been good in sales so I sold Dodges for a while

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I see where you're coming from, but like all things there's a balance. I don't know how much you make, but if I can go into the dealer and negotiate the price of a car for an hour and save >$1000 that's a pretty good time expenditure for me. I'm on salary. I don't make $500 an hour. Now, if I'm doing this for weeks on end, or I'm driving all over the place, sure there's a point where my time is worth more than the effort. But I'll give up an hour to save $1000. If you take the point of view that that $1000 is spread over a financing term, it may not seem like much, but money is money and nobody got rich spending it.

I'll concede that there comes a point where negotiating becomes a silly waste of time. But having a family full of sales people, I know that all large purchases are negotiable. And I know that there comes a point when they have to walk away from a sale when there's no profit in it for them. That's negotiation though.

Ryan, that's cool that you have the leverage that you don't have to ever negotiate, but you come across as having the attitude that anybody who does is beneath you socially and that negotiating price is a bad thing.
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Easily the biggest discount so far...who did you sleep with to get that?

That's so funny!
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:48 PM
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I see where you're coming from, but like all things there's a balance. I don't know how much you make, but if I can go into the dealer and negotiate the price of a car for an hour and save >$1000 that's a pretty good time expenditure for me. I'm on salary. I don't make $500 an hour. Now, if I'm doing this for weeks on end, or I'm driving all over the place, sure there's a point where my time is worth more than the effort. But I'll give up an hour to save $1000. If you take the point of view that that $1000 is spread over a financing term, it may not seem like much, but money is money and nobody got rich spending it.

I'll concede that there comes a point where negotiating becomes a silly waste of time. But having a family full of sales people, I know that all large purchases are negotiable. And I know that there comes a point when they have to walk away from a sale when there's no profit in it for them. That's negotiation though.

Ryan, that's cool that you have the leverage that you don't have to ever negotiate, but you come across as having the attitude that anybody who does is beneath you socially and that negotiating price is a bad thing.
I see your point, and please don't think that's what I mean or I'm trying to convey with your last sentence. I understand all things in commerce are negotiable to an extent. But for a minute lets think about something.. Carmax in contrast is like the Wal Mart of Car dealers, all of their pricing is final and fixed. A friend of mine purchased and was going to purchase a C5 corvette from there and haggled for over an hour, Carmax would not budge a penny off the price of the car..... He left and ended up finding the same car albeit a different color one or two more options, less millage at a Nissan dealer priced 10-15% higher than Carmax, the Nissan dealer ended up letting the pre owned Vette go for $800-$1000 less than Carmax? Carmax sells twice perhaps three times the amount of volume as said Nissan dealer. To my friend the folks at Carmax were jerks even if they were friendly throughout the entire deal because they would not come off their already discounted fixed price. The same Nissan dealer today has gone through three changes of ownership and on the verge of going out of business today.

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It is the same car, regardless of where it is made....but if you want to know ask your dealer to pull up the batch info in NetStar and they can tell you exactly where it will be made from that.

Tex, thanks for the info, I'll call him today. You're probably right about it being the same car.

Maybe I'm a traditionalist in some ways, I like to see "Made in Germany" on a German machine.

On pricing, I think it is ingrained into the public consciouness to negociate some type of discount with vehicles, sort of a game that some play better than others.

In my case, my deal took about 5 minutes after the test drive. On my first visit, my wife and I test drove (the car is for her) with one of the long time salespersons. During it, I casually asked "what kind of numbers are we talking", he looked at me and said $600 over invoice. I left and came back to test drive again with a newbie salesperson, she said immediately stated "all these cars are MSRP period." My wife said $600 over invoice. The salesperson left, came back and said OK. No games, no BS, I was surprised.

Of course, I realize the 'invoice' is not a true invoice, but, we left feeling good, and I took a gander at a used AMG on the lot, so, their working with me may have developed a future customer.

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Originally Posted by pdutta2000 View Post
Please post dealer info. That's a great discount.




i emailed 30 different dealers and said i was only paying true invoice and only half of their holdback... then gave a really lowball offer...

of the handful of dealers that emailed back with counter offers, I countered back then used the counter of the counters to show to other dealers and make them beat the others price... i did this a few times until one got in my range
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Tex, thanks for the info, I'll call him today. You're probably right about it being the same car.

Maybe I'm a traditionalist in some ways, I like to see "Made in Germany" on a German machine.

On pricing, I think it is ingrained into the public consciouness to negociate some type of discount with vehicles, sort of a game that some play better than others.

In my case, my deal took about 5 minutes after the test drive. On my first visit, my wife and I test drove (the car is for her) with one of the long time salespersons. During it, I casually asked "what kind of numbers are we talking", he looked at me and said $600 over invoice. I left and came back to test drive again with a newbie salesperson, she said immediately stated "all these cars are MSRP period." My wife said $600 over invoice. The salesperson left, came back and said OK. No games, no BS, I was surprised.

Of course, I realize the 'invoice' is not a true invoice, but, we left feeling good, and I took a gander at a used AMG on the lot, so, their working with me may have developed a future customer.
so what is your invoice vs. true invoice?
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakerz4sho View Post
so what is your invoice vs. true invoice?

The invoice they gave me was 35,980 for the C350, no options

+ 2744 for MultiMedia

+600 = 39,324

MSRP was 37,985 + 2950 MM = 40,935


As to what their real cost is, I have no way of knowing, but, I'm pretty certain the invoice they showed me is not their true cost, which is probably determined by some complicated formula involving location, amount of sales, length of time in business, holdbacks, incentives, credits, etc.

Anyway, as I said, I was happy to have something under MSRP

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Base - 36500
Multimedia Pkg - 2950
18" AMG Wheel Pkg - 1000
Metallic Paint - 710
Destination - 775

Total - 41935

Incentive - (500)
New Total - 41435
+ Tax / Tags / Freight

Total Cash Price Delivered - 43849.50
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The Premium II package (option code 320) not only includes the 6 CD changer but states you CANNOT have option code 510 if you choose 320. Option code 510 is the CD changer. If someone is charging you for both 320 and 510, you had better end up with a place to shove 12 disks!

Does anyone know if the cd reads MP3 files off of a data disk?

For those of you who brought up the E-Class in this thread . . . I've been on the fence for an E so long I have that bar imprint in my thighs permanently! I REALLY like the looks of the new C-class but I had a little trouble with the size. The front seat wasn't that bad . . . but the back seat . . yikes. I'm just under 5'11" and I could feel my hair (and no, I don't have a Lyle Lovett doo) brushing on the headliner. I had a LOT of trouble getting in and out of the back too. I'm not thin but I'm not round either. For those of you about to say "well you won't be riding in the back anyway," it's just a test I do on any vehicle I buy. I want my passengers to be comfortable.

I like that the C300 2wd can burn E85. Has anyone tried it?

As for the debate on discounts that is interspersed in this thread, nobody will ever win that debate. You'll just **** each other off. Personally I like shooting for $500 to $1000 over invoice. When I got close to purchasing an E320 CDI, the dealer was going to go $500 under invoice and then subract whatever incentive there was at the time . . . but that was a couple of years ago when there was a temporary glut.
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The Premium II package (option code 320) not only includes the 6 CD changer but states you CANNOT have option code 510 if you choose 320. Option code 510 is the CD changer.
On what model? Neither the 2008 "build your car" web site nor the printed brochure have package numbers. We have the C300 Sport with Premium Package II, and it does not include the 6-disk changer. The window sticker lists the P2 as code P02. The changer is included with the Multimedia package, and chosing the MM package says that you cannot also select the 6-disk changer.
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On what model? Neither the 2008 "build your car" web site nor the printed brochure have package numbers. We have the C300 Sport with Premium Package II, and it does not include the 6-disk changer. The window sticker lists the P2 as code P02. The changer is included with the Multimedia package, and chosing the MM package says that you cannot also select the 6-disk changer.
You HAVE the car with the P2 pkg w/o the changer or you ORDERED the car that way?
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Does anyone know if the cd reads MP3 files off of a data disk?
Yes.
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The Premium II package (option code 320) not only includes the 6 CD changer but states you CANNOT have option code 510 if you choose 320. Option code 510 is the CD changer. If someone is charging you for both 320 and 510, you had better end up with a place to shove 12 disks!
6 Changer is included in the MM package in the W204. It is not part of P2.
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