angeloxnet

so your going to pull the " it's my opinion" card out..
newsflash, your on a W204 forum.. but sure we can move on,

i love the styling of the W204, it's new, aggressive and appealing.
you don't, the end.

Azn_C300

It just comes down to knocking down the king of the hill which currently the w204 is for it's class.

mb_horseshoe

The taste test challenge is a little different than Audi using a MB in their commercial. Not to mention, Pepsi and Coke have been battling it out since the 70's. Audi and MB do not have that relationship.

You seem to really hate the W204... Why do you waste your time on these forums?

zankok

hmm
the LED looked better on the R8 than the new A4
i reckon W204 look better in and outside even with the LEDs on the A4
they shoulved kept it on the R8
still the audi grill and the audi front and back, and theyre telling me they been changing cause of the LEDs??interior bits r ugly, lack of characteristic(excluding steering wheel), especially that push start, center screen, control joy stick, the aircon control bits etc, just like all other new cars imho it looks cheaper than W204 interior too
so where is the progress part? the LED???

amanonfire

Newsflash, we're on a Mercedes forum, and I own one. My opinion of hating the W204 counts, since MB LOST a customer.

I pulled the opinion card cause if I hadn't people would turn to bashing me, which is the exact thing being criticized in this commercial, and as much as it'd be funny to watch the hypocrits made that Audi bashed them, then turn and bash someone else, its actually kinda sad too.

So be glad I gave you a way out, I'm glad you took it.

amanonfire

Cause I'm interested to see if someone can make this car look good with aftermarket parts. I like MB and don't want to switch, so I hold out hope that I can modify a W204 to my liking.

The taste test is no different, it takes 2 similar brands and compares which a customer would prefer. That's all this commercial is doing. Perhaps Audi wants to start a rivalry, its been BMW vs MB for too long, its about time they stuck their nose in and caused a stir. Hopefully it'll challenge MB to better their product line.

ATMC300

well they used the lux model... sport still looks better

lol. kidding...



not really...

FrankW

uh...NO...what are you smoking? i want some too.

amanonfire

Lets look at the 2 interiors.

2008 A4:


2008 C300


This is the 2008 RS4 interior, gorgeous!

dieseldoc

I guess I am old fashion. Give me the old house with the antiques and the Benz any day. I will agree though the LEDs on the Audi do look cool.

angeloxnet

the pics u posted

is that the base A4 with nav u posted?

Audi + nav compared to Benz without Nav
the pop-out screen looks nice on the W204

GDawgC220

You get the same MMI screen without the navigation option.

Azn_C300

Personally, I like the w204 interior more than the A4...but of course, I prefer the RS4 interior over both...then again..RS4 isn't exactly in the same class is it. And you really should find a publicity pic of the w204 to compare and not some out of focus skewed image of the interior. Stacking the deck, hmmm?

amanonfire

Please, I know you're being emotional cause I'm criticizing your car, yet do some homework first.

GDawgC220 is correct, you get the MMI screen with or without Nav. Its similar to BMWs iDrive.

amanonfire

Nope, finding 2 pics of the same size was hard, especially for the W204. Maybe there aren't many interior pics of the W204 cause no-one likes it ok ok I'm kidding.

mb_horseshoe

You are too funny man. I'm beginning to think you work for Audi. You take Audi's studio interior shot which probably cost 5k to produce and compare it to a camera phone picture of the c300?

These two are probably better pictures to compare against




With that being said, I do like the new A4 interior - (it's almost as nice as the w204)

Azn_C300

Yeah, both interiors are nice. It comes down to personal taste and honestly, the difference "good looking" quality between the two is very slim.

451/443=EW

Good one mb_horseshoe, I was thinking the same thing about a pro pic of Audi VS crap cam for the W204. Not very fair

That being said, Audi has always made nice interiors, ( I think ).
but im not running out to spend 40k on an Audi interior. Over all I think the better buy is the W204 but the Audi is a nice car too.

As for the commercial, I think the idea was kinda cool but, and it will work in simple minds. That is the whole point of a commercial. Will it work? Thats all.

As a very soon to be W204 owner, I thinks its cool that Audi see the goal as reaching MB status. That a very big compliment. I dont think it was a dirty commerical cus they didnt bash MB, it simply a styaling point which is subjective anyway. And ya they used a base C with the classic grill. Thats cus they know the 230 with sport pack and 300/350, all look sick

Audi's are very stylish car, very modern looks but clean at the same time.
Thats why they show MB with classic grill. They are trin to brain wash people to think that MB isnt agressive. Audi would like the public to view MB as an old mans car.

imboom

Not smoking anything. You don't need to bash someone's personal preference but my interior has been complimented many times by both a 2004 S4 and a 335i owner with the S4 owner saying that it blends elegance with technology.

As being an owner of a C350, I do find the birdseye maple to compliment my interior very well. The good mix of mesh cloth material around the seems help create the softness of the cabin. Most complaints I've heard of the w204 is the C300's tacky aluminum interior. You still cannot beat the convenience of the car's buttons and how well they are laid out.

It seems that many car companies are doing this(noticed MB does it but less than others). Wait until Hyundai puts out their Genesis commercials out. I bet it will compare it to the E-Class in every commercial.

supernsx

I bought the W204 to replaced a current gen A4, so I know both cars. I like the interior layout of the W204 but the material being used in the current A4 is definitely much better than the W204. Actually, in my opinion, most of the other MBs use better material than the W204 and I almost feel like it is more a W204 problem than anything else.

Regarding the new A4, I saw a base model demo yesterday at the dealership and it is definitely nicer than the current A4 model. However, the base model has some small wheels and the suspension sits very high and makes the car looks kinda odd. I am waiting for the S-Line version with the LED light (more like the commerial) in person to really judge the car. But if you compare the based model W204 (both sport and luxury) and the new A4 (B8) exterior, the W204 definitely looks TON better. However, it will be a tossed up if the new A4 looks like the new Audi S5 in four doors form.

http://images.google.com/images?sour...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

Interior wise, it is a whole lot nicer than the current A4 and I would let you guys be the judge after you sit in one of those. Don't want to start a flaming war on this.

Regarding the price, the one I saw is A4 2.0T Quattro Tiptronic. The base price is $32K with about 3K options. I personally think it offers pretty good value for the money.

FrankW

you realize I'm speaking as a w203 C32 and w204 C350 owner right? the bird's eye maple is definitely better than the aluminum, but honestly, the new A4 do have a better interior than the 204 or the e90. and you can't deny it. This is not speaking as style sense since every one has different taste on style.

Phin

I currently have a new c300(loaner car)parked in my garage and the biggest turnoff about the car is the interio.I'd prefer the Audi(shown) and my our W203's interior over the current W204.IMO

jgorman13

OKay, so ive also owned a current gen A4 and replaced it with the w204 C. And i must say i miss my audi, but thats just a personal opinion. As far as putting down the interior of the new audi, dont even. The new A4 could set the benchmark for entry level luxury. I saw it in person, and it blows away the C even with the nav screen. Sorry MB, Audi may have you there.

And in respect to the commercial, yea its a bit low of audi, but it is still a pretty good commercial from the marketing point of view, as well as being entertaining. Still love my C, but now considering the new A4 after seeing it. and I dont work for audi, or have a bias, because ive owned a 3 series, an a4 and 2 C classes.

aowhaus

The 2009 A4 interior doesn't look like 'progress' compared to the 2008 RS4. Sure it has more bottons and knobs, but the design isn't as sporty or stylish. I don't like the bland 4-spoke steering wheel, the less stylish rectangular air vents, and the nav screen that forms an unattractive and not very well integrated hump on the dash. I must admit the finish and quality of materials do have an edge over our Cs.

As for the furniture comments, I'm an architect and I love the mid-century modern furniture used in the commercial. It is definitely not cheap plastic Ikea furniture and ironically are designed in the 50's.

I like Audi's, but they are way too common on the streets. Other reasons why I wouldn't get an A4 is because it has grown significantly in size (believe it or not it is almost identical in wheelbase and curb weight to the A6). And it is rather pricey at a starting price of $40,000 for the V6 (however the list of standard equipment is better than the C350).

mbny

Curious if they will be using the same engines in the 09's? They mention at the end "fastest" car in it's class. Would love to see what they have that they feel is quicker than BMW's twin turbo 335. Plus BMW has the 335 twin turbo diesels being released for 09' which in every article I've read about it so far, refers to the car as a "torque monster" pulling hard on even the gasoline powered 335's. Anyone know if they have any new engines or increase in power for 09'?