W204 used in the new A4 commercial!
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wassup with all these flares? Competition is good, Audi claims it spend over 1 billion dollar and 3years research on the new a4. I like the new A4, amused by the R8 LED lights and standard quattro (now 40:60) on all models. There is no argument this is better than previous generation of A4.
So why all these "hate" posts? New A4 will only keep Merc and BMW on their toes, Options, Options, Options.... In the end its all good...
So why all these "hate" posts? New A4 will only keep Merc and BMW on their toes, Options, Options, Options.... In the end its all good...
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JD Powers only means something if you're leasing a car for the first few years, those of us interested in keeping a car longer know better. The IQS is only 90 days into ownership, and the VDC is 3 years into ownership. The majority of the problems on the W203 only surfaced after 4 years of ownership, and wouldn't even register on JD Powers.
Sounds like a bitter Audi employee! Too bad you were one of those bargain basement shoppers who bought a w203. You probably don't even own a Mercedes.
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wassup with all these flares? Competition is good, Audi claims it spend over 1 billion dollar and 3years research on the new a4. I like the new A4, amused by the R8 LED lights and standard quattro (now 40:60) on all models. There is no argument this is better than previous generation of A4.
So why all these "hate" posts? New A4 will only keep Merc and BMW on their toes, Options, Options, Options.... In the end its all good...
So why all these "hate" posts? New A4 will only keep Merc and BMW on their toes, Options, Options, Options.... In the end its all good...
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To Mr. A Man On Fire,
Your personal vendetta against Mercedes won't prevent a single sale of a W204. It's turning out to be a popular car and selling well.
I'm sure there are enough W202's or W203's out there to keep their fans supplied for many years if that's their preference.
I personally don't care how poor an experience you had, as my personal experience with a W203 has been very satisfying. I am quite pleased with my W204. I understand no car is perfect, even a Toyota or Honda.
If you don't care for W204 then please make us happier and go hang out at a forum dedicated to the vehicle that you do care for.
Your personal vendetta against Mercedes won't prevent a single sale of a W204. It's turning out to be a popular car and selling well.
I'm sure there are enough W202's or W203's out there to keep their fans supplied for many years if that's their preference.
I personally don't care how poor an experience you had, as my personal experience with a W203 has been very satisfying. I am quite pleased with my W204. I understand no car is perfect, even a Toyota or Honda.
If you don't care for W204 then please make us happier and go hang out at a forum dedicated to the vehicle that you do care for.
I won't buy another. So it has affected a single sale.
Remember, this thread is about the B8 and W204, so I am entitled to my opinion on either. If it doesn't make you happy, that's your own problem. There is a "block" button if you don't happen to enjoy my comments, or request to move this thread to OT, where all the Audi supporters can have their say without the W204 owners becoming resentful "its in their forum".
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So you agree then, at the very least, that for the first 3 years, MB's are more reliable than Audi's. Good to know.
Sounds like a bitter Audi employee! Too bad you were one of those bargain basement shoppers who bought a w203. You probably don't even own a Mercedes.
Sounds like a bitter Audi employee! Too bad you were one of those bargain basement shoppers who bought a w203. You probably don't even own a Mercedes.
I bought my W203 foolishly on the reliability of the W202, and on the interior styling compared with the complicated B6/7 A4, awful E46 325, and plastic-y G35.
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Jackass will get you reported. I'll gladly start calling names if that's the way you wish to argue.
Why are you even on the w204 or mercedes board in the first place? Do you really have nothing better to do than troll a mercedes enthusiast board bashing the brand? You own a w203 so obviously you enjoyed the brand at some point, but it seems that fire has burned out for you. Everyone here loves mercedes and we love our w204. Does it have flaws? yes. So does every single car out there. We'll defend it cause we own it, just like you'd defend a member of your family regardless of their faults. I'm pretty sure everyone is fed up with you by now.
So you've been wrong once, please don't start a trend.
I still enjoy the brand, why do you think I'm here. I lenjoy following another thread where someone is putting a gorgeous C63 body kit on the otherwise ugly W204. Its too bad W204 members are bashing that member - in their own forum! What happened to the universal W204 love you're preaching?
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lol i'm glad i took my "way out" on this thread...
we all must be crazy.... *sarcasm*
the new A4 is not even widely available yet, and nor is it as "common" as the W204, what makes u think it wont have it's share of initial problems just like any other first-gen car. We get your point, we get that u dont like the W204, u said it, time to move on to audi forums... u can bash us there.
we all must be crazy.... *sarcasm*
the new A4 is not even widely available yet, and nor is it as "common" as the W204, what makes u think it wont have it's share of initial problems just like any other first-gen car. We get your point, we get that u dont like the W204, u said it, time to move on to audi forums... u can bash us there.
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Cause certain members cannot handle criticism of their own car and think a forum should protect them from the criticism of others, while they are free to criticize.
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amanonfire, I made a comment about the Audi having a nice interior, that doesnt mean I agree with you. Now you are using guys like me dto defend your self. It seems you are a Jackass, cus you dont seem to let it go. Your the one that keeps bashing the W204 and you dont even own one. Sorry you bought a W203 that caused problems but you think MB spent 8 yrs building the same car?
What do you know about the W204 to say that it share the same tech as the W203. You really thing these cars are the same
Go get your Audi and enjoy its interior, you will have lots of time to oggle the dash when your audi breaks down on the side of the road.
Audi still needs more pompose people to buy there still chasing MB and BMW cars. But I will say they are definitly the nicest VW on the road.
What do you know about the W204 to say that it share the same tech as the W203. You really thing these cars are the sameGo get your Audi and enjoy its interior, you will have lots of time to oggle the dash when your audi breaks down on the side of the road.
Audi still needs more pompose people to buy there still chasing MB and BMW cars. But I will say they are definitly the nicest VW on the road.
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Thanks. Ironically, I really like the new A4 over the old A4 - it's too bad Audi has this guy running his mouth the way he is (he's obviously an employee). I think he's bitter cause he drives around in a car he doesn't like. lol.
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yeah, I've freely admitted that the A4 interior looks nice and have stated that Audi was a close second when I was looking to buy. They both have nice interior and just comes down to personal taste. NEITHER of them are terrible ugly.
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I am doing the opposite of the commercial - moving out of an A4 and into the C300. In Canada, I found the pricing of the C300 very competitive. Audi has not released their pricing yet for the B8 and the sports model won't be released in Canada until Oct/Nov.
Yes I like the new B8 vs the B6/7 A4: LEDs, Bang & Olufsen stereo option as well as paddle shifters option, adaptive drive option, extra torque and better fuel efficiency.
Yes I like the new B8 vs the B6/7 A4: LEDs, Bang & Olufsen stereo option as well as paddle shifters option, adaptive drive option, extra torque and better fuel efficiency.
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Apparently MB did its homework on the W203 too, so why should we believe the W204 will be any different.
Yes, after 6 years of making the W203 all the issues were ironed out. Yet the W202 was bullet-proof, so if we're to judge based on the previous model, the W203 should have been a success. It wasn't, so please don't preach.
Reliability, no one can say, using your logic of "don't judge a car based on previous model" who knows about w204, we'll just have to wait and see.
Recipe for disaster for who? MB or owner? both seems to be happy, MB selling more C than ever and owners on this board are generally happy, I don't see any class action suit being formed...
but boy, you sound like the bitter guy from www.bmwlemon.com....
the fact of matter is, your opinions are primarily based on your personal experience with w203, a horrible one it seems. But what did you expect coming to the w204 forum and start bashing it without basis? You don't even own one. Lots of happy w204 owners will obviously disagree. Your opinions are just that, opinions. My experiences with majority of the members on this forum tells me they will respect that. But, you seemly trying to present them as facts, dismissing any disagreement as delusional benz wanna-be owners (perhaps that how you got burn?)
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Listen to me W204 owners ok almost caused me a divorce and almost went crazy
Here's some major problems with the previous w203, so you can expect similar with the w204 if MB continues the course:
- cylinder head failure: sticking valves
- oil leak into wiring harness: bad seals in sensors
- vacuum leaks: hoses that rot with oil
- coolant leak into transmission: cheap rad
- bushing replaced in control/thurst arms, endlinks: bad design
- air conditioning leak: cheap condenser
- fuel pump and fuel sensor problems
- rust: early models were not adequately rust proofed
If you think you're buying into MB reliability, you're wrong. MBs record on the w203 is worse than the B7, so both the w204 and B8 might be lemons.
I learned my lesson with the w203 - never buy the first year of ANY model or engine - unless you plan on buying an extended waranty
- cylinder head failure: sticking valves
- oil leak into wiring harness: bad seals in sensors
- vacuum leaks: hoses that rot with oil
- coolant leak into transmission: cheap rad
- bushing replaced in control/thurst arms, endlinks: bad design
- air conditioning leak: cheap condenser
- fuel pump and fuel sensor problems
- rust: early models were not adequately rust proofed
If you think you're buying into MB reliability, you're wrong. MBs record on the w203 is worse than the B7, so both the w204 and B8 might be lemons.
I learned my lesson with the w203 - never buy the first year of ANY model or engine - unless you plan on buying an extended waranty
I had mine in for weekend use only never drove it . NOw i drive it dailly i live it to the max,,, So lets all give this up and talk about what you did withyour W204
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Lets all have fun with our W204 and tell our story
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The 2.0T will have 211hp/258lb-ft. The 3.2 FSI will have 265hp/243lb-ft. Tests for the 3.2 have put it at 5.7s 0-60. They are working on a new supercharged 3.0 engine that will be in the re-designed A6 coming out in a year or two and will probably trickle down into the A4. The 3.0TFSI has 290hp/310lb-ft. As well as a higher output for the new S4 with the same engine.
from what i read it will be the next S4 engine, but wont replace the 3.2.
Only bmw, in america doesnt have that middle NA engine. in europe its 325, 330 , 335i.
just they apparently do not think there is a big enough gap between the 328 and 335.
who knows maybe mercedes will make a turbo 3.0 engine also.
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from what i read it will be the next S4 engine, but wont replace the 3.2.
Only bmw, in america doesnt have that middle NA engine. in europe its 325, 330 , 335i.
just they apparently do not think there is a big enough gap between the 328 and 335.
who knows maybe mercedes will make a turbo 3.0 engine also.
Only bmw, in america doesnt have that middle NA engine. in europe its 325, 330 , 335i.
just they apparently do not think there is a big enough gap between the 328 and 335.
who knows maybe mercedes will make a turbo 3.0 engine also.
EDIT: Looks like Audi bumped up the power for the new 3.0TFSI engine to 300hp/310lb-ft.
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...ter_4223.shtml
Slight side topic
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amanonfire, I made a comment about the Audi having a nice interior, that doesnt mean I agree with you. Now you are using guys like me dto defend your self. It seems you are a Jackass, cus you dont seem to let it go. Your the one that keeps bashing the W204 and you dont even own one. Sorry you bought a W203 that caused problems but you think MB spent 8 yrs building the same car? What do you know about the W204 to say that it share the same tech as the W203. You really thing these cars are the same
Go get your Audi and enjoy its interior, you will have lots of time to oggle the dash when your audi breaks down on the side of the road.
What do you know about the W204 to say that it share the same tech as the W203. You really thing these cars are the sameGo get your Audi and enjoy its interior, you will have lots of time to oggle the dash when your audi breaks down on the side of the road.
MB is selling more than ever cause its a new model, look at the sales numbers when the W203 was introduced.
Do you really think your W204 shares no tech in common with my W203?
Have fun with loaners! Hope you have the extended warranty.
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LOL then ask a mod to delete this thread, since if we cannot bash the W204 in the W204 forum, where potential buyers can read about it - why should Audi bashing be permitted either?
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