webada

wassup with all these flares? Competition is good, Audi claims it spend over 1 billion dollar and 3years research on the new a4. I like the new A4, amused by the R8 LED lights and standard quattro (now 40:60) on all models. There is no argument this is better than previous generation of A4.

So why all these "hate" posts? New A4 will only keep Merc and BMW on their toes, Options, Options, Options.... In the end its all good...

mb_horseshoe

So you agree then, at the very least, that for the first 3 years, MB's are more reliable than Audi's. Good to know.

Sounds like a bitter Audi employee! Too bad you were one of those bargain basement shoppers who bought a w203. You probably don't even own a Mercedes.

Azn_C300

I actually like the new audi, but it just comes down to how the argument is presented. You can either promote the goods about audi, or bash on the competitors. As this is a Mercedes w204 forum, bashing isn't a good way to get people to listen or be sympathetic. This topic was all fine and good when both parties were talking about how much they enjoyed the look of their respected vehicles, but when it degenerated to shameless bashing on opposing vehicles, that's when enough was enough. And yes, you're right. We need Audi and BMW and MB to keep pushing each other to make leaps and bounds in improvements. Friendly competition is good. Spiteful competition isn't.

amanonfire

You are incorrect.
I won't buy another. So it has affected a single sale.

Remember, this thread is about the B8 and W204, so I am entitled to my opinion on either. If it doesn't make you happy, that's your own problem. There is a "block" button if you don't happen to enjoy my comments, or request to move this thread to OT, where all the Audi supporters can have their say without the W204 owners becoming resentful "its in their forum".

amanonfire

No I don't agree with JD Powers at all. When Hummer ranks low cause the #1 complaint is "gas mileage" on a vehicle that is knowingly a gas guzzler, I don't think very highly of the people that rate these cars. That's why JD Powers doesn't break down the ratings, and we turn to forums to find out what actually breaks in the first 3 years.

I bought my W203 foolishly on the reliability of the W202, and on the interior styling compared with the complicated B6/7 A4, awful E46 325, and plastic-y G35.

amanonfire

Its not, it borrows tech from the w203.
Go the W203 forum, there was lots of initial comments about the W204 styling being awful - from Mercedes owners on a Mercedes forums.

Jackass will get you reported. I'll gladly start calling names if that's the way you wish to argue.
I'm pretty sure you're fed up with me, don't speak for everyone else, since you tried previously only to find out there's other W204 members that think the B8 interior is better than the W204.

So you've been wrong once, please don't start a trend.

I still enjoy the brand, why do you think I'm here. I lenjoy following another thread where someone is putting a gorgeous C63 body kit on the otherwise ugly W204. Its too bad W204 members are bashing that member - in their own forum! What happened to the universal W204 love you're preaching?

angeloxnet

lol i'm glad i took my "way out" on this thread...
we all must be crazy.... *sarcasm*

the new A4 is not even widely available yet, and nor is it as "common" as the W204, what makes u think it wont have it's share of initial problems just like any other first-gen car. We get your point, we get that u dont like the W204, u said it, time to move on to audi forums... u can bash us there.

wblynch

Ah, my life is much more peaceful now that I've pressed that button.

Thank you for the advice as I've not noticed that function before.

amanonfire

Cause certain members cannot handle criticism of their own car and think a forum should protect them from the criticism of others, while they are free to criticize.

angeloxnet

thanks, i didnt know it was there either. problem solved

451/443=EW

amanonfire, I made a comment about the Audi having a nice interior, that doesnt mean I agree with you. Now you are using guys like me dto defend your self. It seems you are a Jackass, cus you dont seem to let it go. Your the one that keeps bashing the W204 and you dont even own one. Sorry you bought a W203 that caused problems but you think MB spent 8 yrs building the same car? What do you know about the W204 to say that it share the same tech as the W203. You really thing these cars are the same
Go get your Audi and enjoy its interior, you will have lots of time to oggle the dash when your audi breaks down on the side of the road.

Audi still needs more pompose people to buy there still chasing MB and BMW cars. But I will say they are definitly the nicest VW on the road.

AsianML

I like the Audi's interior more than the W204.

mb_horseshoe

where's the block button?

webada

looks nice from the pix but wouldn't know until i actually sat in one and start feeling it..... (boy that sounds perverted)

angeloxnet

it's more like an ignore list, click on his name and go to his profile and "add to ignore list"

angeloxnet

i agree it does look nice, but dont think that ppl ever got all hostile at that opinion.... it's the dude's attitude.

mb_horseshoe

Thanks. Ironically, I really like the new A4 over the old A4 - it's too bad Audi has this guy running his mouth the way he is (he's obviously an employee). I think he's bitter cause he drives around in a car he doesn't like. lol.

Azn_C300

yeah, I've freely admitted that the A4 interior looks nice and have stated that Audi was a close second when I was looking to buy. They both have nice interior and just comes down to personal taste. NEITHER of them are terrible ugly.

webada

congrats on your new purchase. I actually just did a configuration of a similar optioned A4 2.0 plus with navigation, compared with c300, 4matic, p2/mm. A4 is about 2k cheaper. 43k vs 41k. now, i didn't go line by line and compare every feature but it seems like Audi is taking c300 head on in the pricing department.

webada

Dude, that's a bit hypocritical, same logic can be apply, shouldn't judge the car based on previous model? hmmmm... Exactly!

Styling is a matter of opinion, w204 looks great <--- my opinion.

Reliability, no one can say, using your logic of "don't judge a car based on previous model" who knows about w204, we'll just have to wait and see.

Recipe for disaster for who? MB or owner? both seems to be happy, MB selling more C than ever and owners on this board are generally happy, I don't see any class action suit being formed...

but boy, you sound like the bitter guy from www.bmwlemon.com....

the fact of matter is, your opinions are primarily based on your personal experience with w203, a horrible one it seems. But what did you expect coming to the w204 forum and start bashing it without basis? You don't even own one. Lots of happy w204 owners will obviously disagree. Your opinions are just that, opinions. My experiences with majority of the members on this forum tells me they will respect that. But, you seemly trying to present them as facts, dismissing any disagreement as delusional benz wanna-be owners (perhaps that how you got burn?)

ATSOBE

Now does all this matter .. I drove many years consumer reports high rated car like honda acura. Did i have problem in the first 3 years yes. Transmission failure, radiator, battery, windows so on even thou consumer reports ranks em high the hpa car they still suck and break even if there new. Last one is my 07 acura Rl 5000 mile power steering pump change. After all this i wanted to get a new car.I spent one year driving cars at dealers testing them going by consumer reports rating did i liek the cars i drove no . But had high rating my wife went nuts wondering what car i get. Cause me a divorce to the point almost. Finally i went with what looks i like i said wow mercedes did i test the car no way consumer reports did nt rate them high, I was forced to drive one. After i drove it i fell in love. At the end of the day do you know if tomorrow the girl you date or married is gonna be there with you for ever no one can know . But you choose to be with her right living the moment.WHat im saying why worry four years from now enjoy the moment with your car to the max. Worry when something comes up. You dont know if on your way to work someone run s a stop sign and kills you in the act. Why worry no one has no clue if we wil be here tomorrow or not .Worry about today how much you enjoyed your w204 with your love one wife friend dog or who ever. Picture the moment prasie it hold it live it too the max with your car.Why worry if it will last worry about what you gonna do with it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had mine in for weekend use only never drove it . NOw i drive it dailly i live it to the max,,, So lets all give this up and talk about what you did withyour W204:p :

Lets all have fun with our W204 and tell our story

hans007

from what i read it will be the next S4 engine, but wont replace the 3.2.


Only bmw, in america doesnt have that middle NA engine. in europe its 325, 330 , 335i.

just they apparently do not think there is a big enough gap between the 328 and 335.

who knows maybe mercedes will make a turbo 3.0 engine also.

GDawgC220

The supercharged will make it into the next A6 for sure. I mentioned it would probably trickle down to the A4 at some point as with most engines through the model lines. The S4 will have a higher output than 290hp/310lb-ft, from what I read mid to high 300s..

EDIT: Looks like Audi bumped up the power for the new 3.0TFSI engine to 300hp/310lb-ft.

http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...ter_4223.shtml

Slight side topic

amanonfire

Let it go, why should I when you throw out comments like the last statement? If you want me to let it go, set the example, don't be a hypocrite and call me out then expect me not to say anything.

MB is selling more than ever cause its a new model, look at the sales numbers when the W203 was introduced.

Do you really think your W204 shares no tech in common with my W203?

Have fun with loaners! Hope you have the extended warranty.

amanonfire

LOL then ask a mod to delete this thread, since if we cannot bash the W204 in the W204 forum, where potential buyers can read about it - why should Audi bashing be permitted either?

Lets all play nice right? hold hands around the campfire and sing Kumbaya