No hope for the c180K Blue Efficiency?
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W204 C180k Blueefficiency
No hope for the c180K Blue Efficiency?
Well, I bought a w204 C180K blueefficiency. Started looking at what kind of upgrades I could get for it starting at the high end shops (Brabus, kleeman, lorinser, AMG, etc.). Vaeth looked promosing but still haven't confirmed if their upgrade is for the new 1.6 engine and not just the outgoing 1.8. After searching from ECU upgrades, to springs, to exhausts I came to a realization. If you've purchased this model then you're more or less sh** outta luck. I haven't found anythin worthwhile that could help for the modification of this model merc. I would think this model of all could use with a power boost.
If there is anyone that can direct me to a reliable source for the new 1.6 engined w204, then please post back.
If there is anyone that can direct me to a reliable source for the new 1.6 engined w204, then please post back.
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On second thought...
Well, I bought a w204 C180K blueefficiency. Started looking at what kind of upgrades I could get for it starting at the high end shops (Brabus, kleeman, lorinser, AMG, etc.). Vaeth looked promosing but still haven't confirmed if their upgrade is for the new 1.6 engine and not just the outgoing 1.8. After searching from ECU upgrades, to springs, to exhausts I came to a realization. If you've purchased this model then you're more or less sh** outta luck. I haven't found anythin worthwhile that could help for the modification of this model merc. I would think this model of all could use with a power boost.
If there is anyone that can direct me to a reliable source for the new 1.6 engined w204, then please post back.
If there is anyone that can direct me to a reliable source for the new 1.6 engined w204, then please post back.
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W204 C180k Blueefficiency
haven't collected it yet. interior...beautiful, handling...tops, styling...diamond in the rough of 320is and a4s. Just wondering what the possibilities are of raisng the pace a bit are.
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I think (and don't take this the wrong way) this car is aimed at customers with emissions and the environment in mind. For someone wanting to enhance their car with aftermarket add ons you have chosen the wrong model. I have a 2008 C180K Sport which I have added body styling, but am finding it hard without spending loads of cash to do anything with performance. All that said you will enjoy the driving experience, although at a majestic rather than blistering rate. Don't despair, I think performance add ons will be developed when more customers realise what they have bought and put the pressure on aftermarket suppliers.
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Well, I bought a w204 C180K blueefficiency. Started looking at what kind of upgrades I could get for it starting at the high end shops (Brabus, kleeman, lorinser, AMG, etc.). Vaeth looked promosing but still haven't confirmed if their upgrade is for the new 1.6 engine and not just the outgoing 1.8. After searching from ECU upgrades, to springs, to exhausts I came to a realization. If you've purchased this model then you're more or less sh** outta luck. I haven't found anythin worthwhile that could help for the modification of this model merc. I would think this model of all could use with a power boost.
If there is anyone that can direct me to a reliable source for the new 1.6 engined w204, then please post back.
If there is anyone that can direct me to a reliable source for the new 1.6 engined w204, then please post back.
tell us someting about this new 1.6 engine (156HP) it is not power engine but how enough and it is worth to buy it as mercedes owner thank you.
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I think (and don't take this the wrong way) this car is aimed at customers with emissions and the environment in mind. For someone wanting to enhance their car with aftermarket add ons you have chosen the wrong model. I have a 2008 C180K Sport which I have added body styling, but am finding it hard without spending loads of cash to do anything with performance. All that said you will enjoy the driving experience, although at a majestic rather than blistering rate. Don't despair, I think performance add ons will be developed when more customers realise what they have bought and put the pressure on aftermarket suppliers.
I also drive a C180K (1.6 engine) and I brought it so it wouldn't hurt my wallet at every fill. I'm sure you will enjoy it as it can more than handle everyday use and even spirited driving when you feel the need.
On a side note, I'm slowly coming upto 1,000 miles, after more than 3 months of ownership!
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W204 C180k Blueefficiency
The test drive was more than impressive and this was after testing an A4 Avant. The car will be delivered to me next week and I'm sure I'm going to love it. I was driving a 2008 320i coupe for a while and found it to be...un-inspiring. The V18k package from vath looks really good. I'll update once I take the car through the tiers.
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W205 C400
As far as i can see on EPC, the headers (manifold) and exhaust are the same as the C180K 1,8L. The 1.6 is also a M271 engine.... so i think exhaust wont be a problem, but im not 100% sure.
The Turbo Charger also have the same partnumber asd my C180K 1,8L
About ECU upgrade, stop looing for it, i have had every chiptuner in Europe and we have a new type of ECU that isnt reprogrammable (yet)......
The Turbo Charger also have the same partnumber asd my C180K 1,8L
About ECU upgrade, stop looing for it, i have had every chiptuner in Europe and we have a new type of ECU that isnt reprogrammable (yet)......
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Hello to all UK peeps
I,ll like to ask you a few questions. I am about to place an order for a C180 Bluefficiency Sport with a few options. The breakdown is as follows;
C180 Blueffeiciency sport £25350
Metallic paint £ 600
Intelligent Light pkg £ 750
Auto £ 1250
Dealer contribution - £ 1400
Total £26550
How much more do you think I can realistically get the dealer to knock of this price? How long do I have to wait after ordering for the car to be delivered if I do not want one from stock?
I,ll like to ask you a few questions. I am about to place an order for a C180 Bluefficiency Sport with a few options. The breakdown is as follows;
C180 Blueffeiciency sport £25350
Metallic paint £ 600
Intelligent Light pkg £ 750
Auto £ 1250
Dealer contribution - £ 1400
Total £26550
How much more do you think I can realistically get the dealer to knock of this price? How long do I have to wait after ordering for the car to be delivered if I do not want one from stock?
Last edited by pappilo; Oct 28, 2009 at 03:12 PM.
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Hi Pappilo
Historically MB don't knock anything off the price because it's a premium car, but there's allways a first time. I bought a C180K sport auto and love the driving experience but now wish I'd gone with one of the diesel models (easier to remap with staggering results) Personally I wouldn't buy a blue efficiency model unless you want to save the world.
Historically MB don't knock anything off the price because it's a premium car, but there's allways a first time. I bought a C180K sport auto and love the driving experience but now wish I'd gone with one of the diesel models (easier to remap with staggering results) Personally I wouldn't buy a blue efficiency model unless you want to save the world.
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Hello RonJack
I am definitely not trying to save the world but I am not really a petrol head and would buy this car even if it had a 1 litre engine lol. I am going for this strictly for the looks. I drive a 307 and it ticks all the boxes i.e. acceleration, top speed ( I have never gone faster than 100mph). The C180 BluEff beats the 307 in these areas so it should be good enough.
I am definitely not trying to save the world but I am not really a petrol head and would buy this car even if it had a 1 litre engine lol. I am going for this strictly for the looks. I drive a 307 and it ticks all the boxes i.e. acceleration, top speed ( I have never gone faster than 100mph). The C180 BluEff beats the 307 in these areas so it should be good enough.
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Hello to all UK peeps
I,ll like to ask you a few questions. I am about to place an order for a C180 Bluefficiency Sport with a few options. The breakdown is as follows;
C180 Blueffeiciency sport £25350
Metallic paint £ 600
Intelligent Light pkg £ 750
Auto £ 1250
Dealer contribution - £ 1400
Total £26550
How much more do you think I can realistically get the dealer to knock of this price? How long do I have to wait after ordering for the car to be delivered if I do not want one from stock?
I,ll like to ask you a few questions. I am about to place an order for a C180 Bluefficiency Sport with a few options. The breakdown is as follows;
C180 Blueffeiciency sport £25350
Metallic paint £ 600
Intelligent Light pkg £ 750
Auto £ 1250
Dealer contribution - £ 1400
Total £26550
How much more do you think I can realistically get the dealer to knock of this price? How long do I have to wait after ordering for the car to be delivered if I do not want one from stock?
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But than i have to buy a car with a bigger engine.
But for a 1,8L im satisfied, the headers/cat and brabus exhaust are the perfect combination... but i think i havent got the extra 25hp they say you get with the headers. But the car is runnig smoother and better trough the whole rpm range.
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Hello to all UK peeps
I,ll like to ask you a few questions. I am about to place an order for a C180 Bluefficiency Sport with a few options. The breakdown is as follows;
C180 Blueffeiciency sport £25350
Metallic paint £ 600
Intelligent Light pkg £ 750
Auto £ 1250
Dealer contribution - £ 1400
Total £26550
How much more do you think I can realistically get the dealer to knock of this price? How long do I have to wait after ordering for the car to be delivered if I do not want one from stock?
I,ll like to ask you a few questions. I am about to place an order for a C180 Bluefficiency Sport with a few options. The breakdown is as follows;
C180 Blueffeiciency sport £25350
Metallic paint £ 600
Intelligent Light pkg £ 750
Auto £ 1250
Dealer contribution - £ 1400
Total £26550
How much more do you think I can realistically get the dealer to knock of this price? How long do I have to wait after ordering for the car to be delivered if I do not want one from stock?
I managed to get about 6% off my quoted price after a bit of haggling. I would recommend you aim for about 4% off as you haven't got that many options so less give in the price they will be willing to let it go for.
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I started my searches from E-Class Estate, having a 5-Series before. Then I also decided to try C-Class and 3-Series.
And... I went for a Merc, because it's nice and comfy against quite austere Beemer. In fact the instrument cluster of a C-Class is not that much different from such of an E-Class. You get to get all telematic, and even Universal Media Interface brings the spec above factory installed COMAND! (except for motorised 7" screen).
I understood that C200 CDI is underpowered (the salesman agreed with me), and there were no C220 CDI's at moment. So I decided to try C180K BlueEFF for sheets and giggles -- and was in fact so impressed with its performance, that it became my eventual purchase. I am already not a boy racer, but still love to step on it occasionally.
But of course if you are driving a Mercedes, you want some options... if I wanted a banal car that takes me from A to B, I'd go for a Mondeo
So Sport trim, Heated seats, Parktronic front/rear, rain sensor, intelligent lighting control, active steering and a few more options you get with Sport (e.g. Bluetooth, 12-button steering wheel, advanced instrument cluster that comes with it) -- and it made a great car!
Even the devil is in the details... my old 528i obviously calculated MPG's from L/100KM rounded to tenths. So on higher MPG you could see... 33.0 then 33.4 then 33.8... the Mercs do the proper math
And... I went for a Merc, because it's nice and comfy against quite austere Beemer. In fact the instrument cluster of a C-Class is not that much different from such of an E-Class. You get to get all telematic, and even Universal Media Interface brings the spec above factory installed COMAND! (except for motorised 7" screen).
I understood that C200 CDI is underpowered (the salesman agreed with me), and there were no C220 CDI's at moment. So I decided to try C180K BlueEFF for sheets and giggles -- and was in fact so impressed with its performance, that it became my eventual purchase. I am already not a boy racer, but still love to step on it occasionally.
But of course if you are driving a Mercedes, you want some options... if I wanted a banal car that takes me from A to B, I'd go for a Mondeo
So Sport trim, Heated seats, Parktronic front/rear, rain sensor, intelligent lighting control, active steering and a few more options you get with Sport (e.g. Bluetooth, 12-button steering wheel, advanced instrument cluster that comes with it) -- and it made a great car!Even the devil is in the details... my old 528i obviously calculated MPG's from L/100KM rounded to tenths. So on higher MPG you could see... 33.0 then 33.4 then 33.8... the Mercs do the proper math
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W204 C180K Avantgarde AT BE
Don't know about saving fuel cos my c180 k automatic eats petrol at 12L/100km in town driving and 9l/100km long distance (500km trip one way non stop)!! to me this is very NOT fuel efficient - might be because I have aircon on all the time..but at 12L/100 or 9l/100km its definitely not economical.
I bought it 4 months ago and have already got 16 000 km on the clock so ran in the engine quite nicely but no drop in fuel consumption.. Any ideas/reasons?
thanks
N
I bought it 4 months ago and have already got 16 000 km on the clock so ran in the engine quite nicely but no drop in fuel consumption.. Any ideas/reasons?
thanks
N
+1.
I also drive a C180K (1.6 engine) and I brought it so it wouldn't hurt my wallet at every fill. I'm sure you will enjoy it as it can more than handle everyday use and even spirited driving when you feel the need.
On a side note, I'm slowly coming upto 1,000 miles, after more than 3 months of ownership!
I also drive a C180K (1.6 engine) and I brought it so it wouldn't hurt my wallet at every fill. I'm sure you will enjoy it as it can more than handle everyday use and even spirited driving when you feel the need.
On a side note, I'm slowly coming upto 1,000 miles, after more than 3 months of ownership!
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Don't know about saving fuel cos my c180 k automatic eats petrol at 12L/100km in town driving and 9l/100km long distance (500km trip one way non stop)!! to me this is very NOT fuel efficient - might be because I have aircon on all the time..but at 12L/100 or 9l/100km its definitely not economical.
I bought it 4 months ago and have already got 16 000 km on the clock so ran in the engine quite nicely but no drop in fuel consumption.. Any ideas/reasons?
thanks
N
I bought it 4 months ago and have already got 16 000 km on the clock so ran in the engine quite nicely but no drop in fuel consumption.. Any ideas/reasons?
thanks
N
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S204
Don't know about saving fuel cos my c180 k automatic eats petrol at 12L/100km in town driving and 9l/100km long distance (500km trip one way non stop)!! to me this is very NOT fuel efficient - might be because I have aircon on all the time..but at 12L/100 or 9l/100km its definitely not economical.
I bought it 4 months ago and have already got 16 000 km on the clock so ran in the engine quite nicely but no drop in fuel consumption.. Any ideas/reasons?
thanks
N
I bought it 4 months ago and have already got 16 000 km on the clock so ran in the engine quite nicely but no drop in fuel consumption.. Any ideas/reasons?
thanks
N
On long journeys change the settings to "C" instead of "S" and you should get around 7ltr/100 km average. On short journeys also "C" saves some fuel but it will be around 11ltr/100km.
Put a good fuel. >= 95% octone.
Check tyre pressure and break less.
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I nearly always drive on "C" (petrol is expensive round here, reaching £1.15/litre now).
I did ~34 mpg average on a long motorway trip mostly at 65-75 mph (that's 8.3 l/100km at 100-120 km/h), hardly possible to do any better. You can theoretically get more, but it's extremely boring.
I noticed that if I speed up, the consumption increases significantly (for my old 528i it was the best speed really as the top gear was higher). At 85mph average (130-140 km/h) it already would grow up to 10 l/100km or 28-29 mpg.
The town driving is quite taxing - I get 24-25 mpg which is 11.3-11.7 l/100km.
I do all measures to save fuel: driving on "C", driving softly, trying to roll smoothly as much as I can, break as rarely as I can, even turn off the engine on a long red in the town.
Still these figures are significantly below the ones announced in technical data.
I did ~34 mpg average on a long motorway trip mostly at 65-75 mph (that's 8.3 l/100km at 100-120 km/h), hardly possible to do any better. You can theoretically get more, but it's extremely boring.
I noticed that if I speed up, the consumption increases significantly (for my old 528i it was the best speed really as the top gear was higher). At 85mph average (130-140 km/h) it already would grow up to 10 l/100km or 28-29 mpg.
The town driving is quite taxing - I get 24-25 mpg which is 11.3-11.7 l/100km.
I do all measures to save fuel: driving on "C", driving softly, trying to roll smoothly as much as I can, break as rarely as I can, even turn off the engine on a long red in the town.
Still these figures are significantly below the ones announced in technical data.
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The Blue Efficiency is for the "greens" & there is no point in modifying it or you may as well have bought a more powerful model.
By modifying it to produce greater worthwhile power - you will just undo everything Benz was trying to achieve & you are putting up with a noisier less refined vehicle all round in this quest. All the sound damping etc that has been thrown out of the car to reduce weight leaves you with a noticeably less refined vehicle. Is your car coming with the energy saving tyres? They have given up with them in South Africa.
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I nearly always drive on "C" (petrol is expensive round here, reaching £1.15/litre now).
I did ~34 mpg average on a long motorway trip mostly at 65-75 mph (that's 8.3 l/100km at 100-120 km/h), hardly possible to do any better. You can theoretically get more, but it's extremely boring.
I noticed that if I speed up, the consumption increases significantly (for my old 528i it was the best speed really as the top gear was higher). At 85mph average (130-140 km/h) it already would grow up to 10 l/100km or 28-29 mpg.
The town driving is quite taxing - I get 24-25 mpg which is 11.3-11.7 l/100km.
I do all measures to save fuel: driving on "C", driving softly, trying to roll smoothly as much as I can, break as rarely as I can, even turn off the engine on a long red in the town.
Still these figures are significantly below the ones announced in technical data.
I did ~34 mpg average on a long motorway trip mostly at 65-75 mph (that's 8.3 l/100km at 100-120 km/h), hardly possible to do any better. You can theoretically get more, but it's extremely boring.
I noticed that if I speed up, the consumption increases significantly (for my old 528i it was the best speed really as the top gear was higher). At 85mph average (130-140 km/h) it already would grow up to 10 l/100km or 28-29 mpg.
The town driving is quite taxing - I get 24-25 mpg which is 11.3-11.7 l/100km.
I do all measures to save fuel: driving on "C", driving softly, trying to roll smoothly as much as I can, break as rarely as I can, even turn off the engine on a long red in the town.
Still these figures are significantly below the ones announced in technical data.
What you mentioned is perfectly true in every sense. Same figures for me when I drive 120km/hr. or in town. I saw my best 6.7ltr./100 km when I drove around 300km with speed of 100km/hr. Otherwise its somewhere between 7.5 to 8.5.
also, when I was configuring my "C", the salesman told the same thing what Glyn has said here... If I buy BE model and put AMG performance pack (tyre/sports suspension etc.) or do some mods, BE engine actually gives worst results than normal 180K engine. I remember, back in 2008 the model was called BE1 and was not allowed to change specification (add AMG pack or even a tow bar!). Later they added BE models and made some things possible, but still no no for me if you are looking for performance mods !
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I nearly always drive on "C" (petrol is expensive round here, reaching £1.15/litre now).
I did ~34 mpg average on a long motorway trip mostly at 65-75 mph (that's 8.3 l/100km at 100-120 km/h), hardly possible to do any better. You can theoretically get more, but it's extremely boring.
I noticed that if I speed up, the consumption increases significantly (for my old 528i it was the best speed really as the top gear was higher). At 85mph average (130-140 km/h) it already would grow up to 10 l/100km or 28-29 mpg.
The town driving is quite taxing - I get 24-25 mpg which is 11.3-11.7 l/100km.
I do all measures to save fuel: driving on "C", driving softly, trying to roll smoothly as much as I can, break as rarely as I can, even turn off the engine on a long red in the town.
Still these figures are significantly below the ones announced in technical data.
I did ~34 mpg average on a long motorway trip mostly at 65-75 mph (that's 8.3 l/100km at 100-120 km/h), hardly possible to do any better. You can theoretically get more, but it's extremely boring.
I noticed that if I speed up, the consumption increases significantly (for my old 528i it was the best speed really as the top gear was higher). At 85mph average (130-140 km/h) it already would grow up to 10 l/100km or 28-29 mpg.
The town driving is quite taxing - I get 24-25 mpg which is 11.3-11.7 l/100km.
I do all measures to save fuel: driving on "C", driving softly, trying to roll smoothly as much as I can, break as rarely as I can, even turn off the engine on a long red in the town.
Still these figures are significantly below the ones announced in technical data.
My old W202 (C180) had very poor fuel consumption figures and so when I looked at the fuel consumption figure for the C280, I said what the heck, I might as well buy the 3.0 litre powered car if the consumption figures are that identical.
Check your tyre pressure and also do you have 18" wheels, they do affect fuel consumption.
