MB300AMG

I know we've had these discussions before, and yes i've read through them all but I just stumbled upon this thread earlier and BMW owners really are a bunch of arrogant haters!

While we can appreciate a good BMW, none of them have anything decent to say about MBs which is ridiculous!

I love the argument that it's a "women's car" because a ton of women drive BMW 3-Series' these days. So much for it being a "man's car".

Here's the thread:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=297732

I really want an M3 Sedan at some point, but the more I hear and read about the BMW crowd, the less I want to be associated with them in any way. I'd rather pick up a C63 AMG at this rate...

RLE

Since those posts are from July 2008, I don't see the relevance here.

snarlingchicken

Yeah I used to be on E90 post for a while when I was looking into what car I should get. While some are actually quite considerate and actually give a good point of view on both sides (I assume that would be the voice of an adult of age 25+. No offense intended) while certain others would just rage and make wild proclamations with no support whatsoever.

On threads like those (ie. C300 vs. 328i), I think they should almost take a sort of essay approach; giving us a thesis and support/evidence to back up their claims. It's rather irksome to see people just saying "BMW FTW MB CAN GO do profane things to my genitals" or stuff like that.

But on another note, I wouldn't say only BMW owners are like that. MB owners, or any "owner" of some sort would have a bit of pride/preference over another, solely as a psychological way of backing up his/her purchase for self satisfaction. Others just need it on a more frequent basis. Coming from like, 4 different car forums, I can definitely say it's not only restricted to BMW.

MB300AMG

Oh I absolutely agree with you on that. My dad and I are replacing our cars (long story) and I was looking at the 3-Series again so I stumbled upon this thread, hence why I got frustrated and decided to post on here.

I know a guy who drives a 335i and he's pretty cool but a lot of the guys I encounter really are quite arrogant and it's just infuriating sometimes.

snarlingchicken

Yeah. Hate to see your C go though. But then again, the 335is coming out soon looks pretty nice too Hopefully they'll FULLY fix the HPFP issue now that there's actually a high profile lawsuit on it.

MB300AMG

Yeah I know me too : (. I had some medical issues and ended up passing out and rolling into a pillar in the parking garage of my college last year so the car had about $11k worth of damage apparently to redo the cosmetic work, and then the rear quarter panel was slightly damaged because some ***** hit me on the turnpike. So I think the resale value went down quite a bit. My dad's also had the engine replaced because of flooding when we lived in Florida.

There's more to it but the bank screwed up our payments and returned them, so Mercedes got back to us and said they wanted more money than the cars were worth for us to keep them and we decided it wasn't worth it, especially because I drive it less since i'm at college most of the time.

So we're getting rid of both and he's getting a car for the interim, while I wait for the facelift and new engines to come in. Part of me lusts after the M3 but i'm really fond of my C-Class and I want a 4matic anyway. I did see a C63 AMG on the lot today though and it really makes me wish I could get one...

C300Kid

I must be blind but I'm not seeing any douche comments.

Most of the people commenting took the time to drive both cars and seemed to be giving mostly constructive criticism.

snarlingchicken

I agree dude. I read through like, 5 comments, and they were constructive. Haha. Well. Tis a big bowl of mixed nuts. Mmmmmmm. Nuts.

C300Sport

Seems like most of these guys are pretty reasonable. I think the worst offenders are the guys on You Tube where MB/BMW/Audi are being compared or raced...they get pretty retarded on there...

C300Kid

wtf? hahaha

Will38

I really wouldn't get a 328i over a C300, but if it was the 330i that would be a different story. There was some comments about the C300 that I disagree with, such as the bad interior/exterior because looking side by side I think the C300 looks better. Also the interior of a 3 series is cheap. My "paint" from the steering wheel is half gone, my interior looks like it's going to fall apart. Then again the car is 4 year old now...

LILBENZ230

You do realize that not buying something you want because of the opinions of other people who own them is pretty ridiculous, right? BMW could give M3 sedans to every serial killer on death row in this country and I still would take it over the absolutely ridiculous C63, which is one of my least favorite Mercedes cars ever.

I have both brands, and experience with both brands. They have their ups and downs. While my 2005 C230 was under warranty it spent several weeks at the dealership and I had the chance to spend those weeks with both C300 and C350 W204 loaners. I like the looks of the 204 and the interior of the 2008s (I hate the small change they made to the gauges in 2009) - but they're quite dull in comparison to the BMWs. I've not noticed either brand having a quality advantage on each other, either. The W204 is a comfortable car and is extremely competent, but it isn't the athlete the 3-series is. I respect them both for what they are and I dislike extreme fanbois on either side.

Derspeed

I have to agree with you Matt. I too have experience with both. And, I have the opportunity this week to get a lightly used 335i in return for my C. I thought, I have this cash, I like 300hp, i'd like a Dinan chip, but I don't really like anything else about the 335i. Thank God Bangle retired. I am holding on to the C for a couple of years to see what develops. I have to keep my C because...it is a cool car and I am not done with it.

M3 fans and C63 seem like tards. If you didn't build it, don't *** brag about it. That's what is ridiculous.

LILBENZ230

A good 6MT in the C350 would make the 204 a lot more desirable to me. It's this type of oversight that really highlights the differences between BMW and Benz. I like both, though. I think the 204 is the better looking between the two, I concede that.

I just read that thread that the OP linked to. Can someone please point to me where anyone was an arrogant hater? They were actually much more reasonable than people on this forum can be. They seemed to generally praise the C300, even if they are a bit misinformed about the reliability concerns. They're a damn sight more reasonable that C350 owners here who claim their cars can outperform 335s.

C300Kid

Interesting opinion...can I ask why? I'd take the C63 over the M3 sedan for sure. The M3 coupe would make me reconsider, but the sedan is ugly.

C300Kid

+1...and a turbo.

snarlingchicken

Dude, I would take any of those two cars. It would be an honor to drive either one. I'm thankful for my C350, but an M3 or C63 would probably put me into a coma of glee. Sure the M3 is more sleek. But in another POV, you have to say that the aggressive styling the C63 has is also somewhat attractive. Also it looks like it's built like a tank.

Dude, if the C350 had a 6MT, I would be good for a good 10 years. Lol. I wonder if anyone has tried (though highly unlikely and probably impossible) to retrofit the 6MT in the C300 into the C350. It would probably be an interesting thing to see/hear/experience.

LILBENZ230

Because the C63 is brute force without finesse. What good is power if it cannot be controlled? Though I like the sounds, the 6.2L AMG engine doesn't impress me in any variant, either. I much preferred the 5.4L Kompressor V8 and was shocked when Benz abandoned FI just as BMW picked it up. Given that Benz is now tossing the 6.2L engine, it seems I wasn't the only one who felt this way. The lack of a proper transmission is also stupid in a car so geared for performance. I also find the M3 sedan to be the better looking of the two. I think the C63 looks quite tacky.

LILBENZ230

The W203 C350 in 2006 and 2007 was available with a 6MT. Not sure why that ended with the intro of the 204.

C300Kid

I've driven both extensively and here's my opinion. I think the 3 Series interior looks more expensive from a design standpoint, and uses slightly nicer materials than the C-Class interior. On the other hand, I think the C-Class interior has better build quality. It feels as solid as a rock.

I remember going to an autoshow a while back and sitting in the G37, C300, and 328i and thinking the Mercedes interior was the worst of the 3. This was long before I ended up buying one. I think the C-Class interior makes a poor first impression but grows on you over time. I really like it now...I prefer it to the 328i/G37 interiors for sure.

C300Kid

Haha, you're telling me bro. I love my C300 and obviously I can't complain but for my next car I'm getting something completely badass. Something like an M3, S5, Cayman S, or maybe even a 911 if I'm lucky. I wouldn't get the C63 though because I don't want another sedan.

It wouldn't be worth the $$$ to retrofit, if it's even possible. I do wish MB would've offered the C350 with a manual though. I would've liked the extra power but I really didn't want an automatic.

MBfinatic

there are a lot of bmw threads with hate. i use to post on pbnation=auto and every bmw owner bashed mbz.

Will38

I agree, I think the 3 series feel great as a "sport" car comparing with the C class. I think C300kid is right how the interior of the C class grows on you. Both cars are excellent car imo, I think it's kinda stupid how bmw bash on mbz.Though when it comes to price, I think i got ripe off when I got my e90.

MB300AMG

I just want to clarify on the issue of that forum. I was actually generalizing about BMW owners based on previous experience knowing some and from what I read on previous forums. The reason I linked this one was because I saw this and didn't really see them consider the positive aspects of the C-Class at all IMO and that set me off again, which is why I said I stumbled upon this thread in the title. I apologize for the confusion, it was my honest mistake.

MB300AMG

Yeah I know what you mean and that wouldn't be the only factor. In this case however it's basically the icing on the cake which would do it for me.

If it was an E46 M3 I wouldn't care but i've ridden in the current one and it doesn't seem as special as the previous one for some reason. The fact that it is a V8 in part puts me off because of the gas mileage so i'd only get it as a second car (though i'm in college, so i'm not that rich). I can't quite pinpoint it but it's in part a combination of what appears to be the proliferation of the regular 3-Series IMO, the styling of the current car, the V8 and the softness of the car in comparison to the E46.

I guess I find the more squarish design of the E46 and in general more appealing, which is why I prefer the C-Class styling.

Also, I was at the dealership yesterday and just couldn't get over the Black C63 AMG sitting in the middle of the place...its absolutely menacing and that's even before the engine fires up! I guess for the most part I would only get an M3 over a C63 for the manual transmission. In all other aspects I prefer the C63, but that's just my opinion.