Has anyone drifted there W204?
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i've done it with the sport suspension and i wouldn't recommend it
with my bilstein suspension its a bit better but still the W204 has a way of wobbling when coming out of a drift.
snow or wet roads make it easy but might give you false confidence to try when its dry
with my bilstein suspension its a bit better but still the W204 has a way of wobbling when coming out of a drift.
snow or wet roads make it easy but might give you false confidence to try when its dry
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Yea i wouldnt recommend doing it with a lowered suspension and yes it does have a way of wobbling coming out of a drift only if you put too much gas. I dont have any snow where i live so its dry all the time so im gaining confidence in myself
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I've stuck the tail out a few times, but nothing too crazy. I was surprised at how balanced the car actually feels. I did not notice any wobble, but I wasn't going too crazy.
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if you however try to make an agressive drift its much less controllable then a BMW.
i had enough confidence i myself to drive around with the traction control turned off and go make slides up intill i ended in the grass next to the road.
if i hadn't had all the space i could have wrecked the merc.
just beware that the C might be easy to control on one slide but when crossing its limit line you might end up in a car that wants to kill you
the car is not designed as drift car
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yes if you let the tail glide a little its very controllable.
if you however try to make an agressive drift its much less controllable then a BMW.
i had enough confidence i myself to drive around with the traction control turned off and go make slides up intill i ended in the grass next to the road.
if i hadn't had all the space i could have wrecked the merc.
just beware that the C might be easy to control on one slide but when crossing its limit line you might end up in a car that wants to kill you
the car is not designed as drift car
if you however try to make an agressive drift its much less controllable then a BMW.
i had enough confidence i myself to drive around with the traction control turned off and go make slides up intill i ended in the grass next to the road.
if i hadn't had all the space i could have wrecked the merc.
just beware that the C might be easy to control on one slide but when crossing its limit line you might end up in a car that wants to kill you
the car is not designed as drift car
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Drifting these cars is not wise & will generally end up in power steering failure. You can never really defeat all nannies other than in Dyno mode.
The Benz is actually a safer car than a BMW (not talking M Series). Benz cars are terminal understeerers by design. BMW's go into snap oversteer at the limit that can be hell to control for Mr Average. BMW's generally have greater rear adhesion but when they let go they can be really nasty.
The Benz is actually a safer car than a BMW (not talking M Series). Benz cars are terminal understeerers by design. BMW's go into snap oversteer at the limit that can be hell to control for Mr Average. BMW's generally have greater rear adhesion but when they let go they can be really nasty.
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Drifting these cars is not wise & will generally end up in power steering failure. You can never really defeat all nannies other than in Dyno mode.
The Benz is actually a safer car than a BMW (not talking M Series). Benz cars are terminal understeerers by design. BMW's go into snap oversteer at the limit that can be hell to control for Mr Average. BMW's generally have greater rear adhesion but when they let go they can be really nasty.
The Benz is actually a safer car than a BMW (not talking M Series). Benz cars are terminal understeerers by design. BMW's go into snap oversteer at the limit that can be hell to control for Mr Average. BMW's generally have greater rear adhesion but when they let go they can be really nasty.
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Drifting these cars is not wise & will generally end up in power steering failure. You can never really defeat all nannies other than in Dyno mode.
The Benz is actually a safer car than a BMW (not talking M Series). Benz cars are terminal understeerers by design. BMW's go into snap oversteer at the limit that can be hell to control for Mr Average. BMW's generally have greater rear adhesion but when they let go they can be really nasty.
The Benz is actually a safer car than a BMW (not talking M Series). Benz cars are terminal understeerers by design. BMW's go into snap oversteer at the limit that can be hell to control for Mr Average. BMW's generally have greater rear adhesion but when they let go they can be really nasty.
Yes i didnt know that mercedes were designed to understeer and they do. Only once has my car drfited wothout taking off traction control and in economy mode. Ive never really liked BMWs because they normally have problems in the long run and mercedes doesnt really have a reputation for having problems lile them but im happy with my benz how it is and drives
With my current setup of Eibach antisway bars, Bilstein B6, SMERC strut tower brace, my car is just a smidge toward the oversteering side of neutral, and is quite predictable and fun in tight corners with a little throttle lift just to help line up the exit. However, I would never drift it...seems quite abusive to me.
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Almost all mass production cars are designed to understeer, by intention, as it is deemed safer for the average driver to control when it occurs versus the surprise of oversteer. I agree that BMW has had more tendency to oversteer, which I actually enjoy, as it can be selectively used to help steer if one know their car well and has the driving skill. When I had my first 3 series, the trailing throttle oversteer was quite severe and I did - once - wind up pointing where I had come from as I was first learning the car's limits. This was before the days of ESP, etc. I stiffened the front struts and took off the rear anti-sway bar to bring it back to only a slight oversteerer, and happily lived with it that way for 13 years.
With my current setup of Eibach antisway bars, Bilstein B6, SMERC strut tower brace, my car is just a smidge toward the oversteering side of neutral, and is quite predictable and fun in tight corners with a little throttle lift just to help line up the exit. However, I would never drift it...seems quite abusive to me.
With my current setup of Eibach antisway bars, Bilstein B6, SMERC strut tower brace, my car is just a smidge toward the oversteering side of neutral, and is quite predictable and fun in tight corners with a little throttle lift just to help line up the exit. However, I would never drift it...seems quite abusive to me.
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Your 77 3 series had semi trailing arm rear suspension and suffered from chassis floppiness (lack of rigidity) which made the car more prone to snap/throttle lift over steer. Seems like a combination of refinement of the design and a more rigid chassis made it work well in the e30's, particularly the e30 M3.
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BMW's modern designs still snap oversteer with the nannies switched off. They are kept in check by the Stability Control. The M Series are least inclined to do it unless provoked by blatant power oversteer.
The tendency to oversteer is part of the BMW driving feel & is fun until you lose the plot. More BMW's are written off due to this tendency in the hands of less than capable drivers than any other cause.
The tendency to oversteer is part of the BMW driving feel & is fun until you lose the plot. More BMW's are written off due to this tendency in the hands of less than capable drivers than any other cause.
