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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 03:52 PM
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W204 rear main seal replaced, still leaks

Looking for advice, based in the UK, the rear main seal was replaced a couple of days ago by a reputable Mb specialist, checked car underneath today and it's still leaking

I'm trying to understand how it could still be leaking? Any advice would be appreciated

Does anyone have the official mb repair procedure for this job?

I read on another post different Mercedes model though that sealant should be added to the mount plate, would that apply to this vehicle?

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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 11:11 PM
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what color is that puddle: engine oil... not ATF for sure, right?

The best thing about paying professionals for automobile repairs is parts & labor are guaranteed.

Engine rear leak could be from eay up high: the rear plastic camshaft seals that popped with high crankcase pressure (PCV!)
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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
what color is that puddle: engine oil... not ATF for sure, right?

The best thing about paying professionals for automobile repairs is parts & labor are guaranteed.

Engine rear leak could be from eay up high: the rear plastic camshaft seals that popped with high crankcase pressure (PCV!)
It's definitely the rear main as no signs of oil further up the vehicle, pic attached
I'm trying to understand what would have caused it to leak again?


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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 11:34 PM
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heavy leaking

Your leak looks very active, not just a casual drip.

What mileage is the engine?
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Your leak looks very active, not just a casual drip.

What mileage is the engine?
61k the garage replaced the rear main seal a couple of days ago. I've probably driven 70 miles since and thought I'd check if it was dry and lo and behold it's still leaking!

It was an expensive repair, I can only presume they may have not fitted the seal correctly? Or may not not have used the sealant on the cover?

Would be good to see what the official mb repair procedure is for this job
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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 11:44 PM
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great idea to check the procedure. MB may have inserted an extra step to ensure good a seal vs. what you got.

In any case: WARRANTY time! They charge premium prices for premium results.
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Old Jul 23, 2022 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
great idea to check the procedure. MB may have inserted an extra step to ensure good a seal vs. what you got.

In any case: WARRANTY time! They charge premium prices for premium results.
Will be on the phone to them first thing! If anyone has the official repair procedure please kindly provide

Thanks!
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Old Jul 24, 2022 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ash1212002
Will be on the phone to them first thing! If anyone has the official repair procedure please kindly provide

Thanks!
Here is the WIS procedure for replacing the seal which does involve the use of sealant.

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instructions published black on white ...

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seal installation procedure

"best effort" is not enough: the procedure is almost clear and warns about leaks.
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Old Jul 25, 2022 | 05:19 AM
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Hi are you sure it is not coming from the oil cooler matrix gaskets and leaking on to the stater motor and down to the sump plug area and bell housing?

My C200K needed new seal kit installed in to the oil cooler matrix, after installing the new shaped O-ring seals it is now 100% no leaks.

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Old Jul 25, 2022 | 05:21 AM
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Hi are you sure it is not coming from the oil cooler matrix gaskets and leaking on to the stater motor and down to the sump plug area?
Attached are pics of leak

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Old Jul 25, 2022 | 09:49 AM
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I don’t think these cars see RMS issues often. 190k miles and bone dry for our 2008 M272. You sure it’s not the tranny input shaft? Or a leak somewhere else and being blown back?
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Old Jul 25, 2022 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cvx5832
I don’t think these cars see RMS issues often. 190k miles and bone dry for our 2008 M272. You sure it’s not the tranny input shaft? Or a leak somewhere else and being blown back?
this is the m271 turbo charged engine, petrol. There is no oil present anywhere else, it is specifically that area pictured
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Old Jul 25, 2022 | 09:30 PM
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I’ve seen posts about the oil filter housing gasket leaking on the M271. It’s on the back of the engine, so if there is a possible leak that would transfer to the back side of the engine, that would be it. Barring that, the main seal is leaking again. In my experience, a reputable shop would stand by their work and make it right.
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Old Jul 26, 2022 | 01:41 AM
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Attached are pics of leak
I see the photo, I was wondering if any higher up oil leaks or is it completely oil free higher up?

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Originally Posted by ash1212002
this is the m271 turbo charged engine, petrol. There is no oil present anywhere else, it is specifically that area pictured


Did you ever get this sorted at all?
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Did you ever get this sorted at all?

What’s your question here? The main reason the seals leak is due to the improper use of the sealant, which could mean curing time, or not replacing the seal and the plate together, as it is needed. Many years ago people thought they could replace just the seal but that is in fact not the case.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Baltistyle
What’s your question here? The main reason the seals leak is due to the improper use of the sealant, which could mean curing time, or not replacing the seal and the plate together, as it is needed. Many years ago people thought they could replace just the seal but that is in fact not the case.
Yeah I get that, bur question is was it leaking again as it wasn't installed correctly? Or was it due to blocked PCV valve or something else actually leaking?
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Originally Posted by Alex1992
Did you ever get this sorted at all?
Went back to the garage, as it was still leaking

They gave me all sorts of excuses as to why it was leaking after the first replacement stating the crank maybe damaged etc trying to fob me off.

I watched so many YouTube videos, I highly suspect the issue was due them fitting the seal without the tool. If I remember correctly you need to use the MB sealant too.

This video explains how it should be done correctly


From my understanding it's very important to use the tool to put the seal on instead of just pushing it on manually with wood or something.
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Originally Posted by ash1212002
Went back to the garage, as it was still leaking

They gave me all sorts of excuses as to why it was leaking after the first replacement stating the crank maybe damaged etc trying to fob me off.

I watched so many YouTube videos, I highly suspect the issue was due them fitting the seal without the tool. If I remember correctly you need to use the MB sealant too.

This video explains how it should be done correctly

https://youtu.be/ezjkfQlHZnY?si=pU7knoV9B_FQPHiO

From my understanding it's very important to use the tool to put the seal on instead of just pushing it on manually with wood or something.

So did you just replace the fixing plate, sealed it and put new crankshaft seal in to solve it?
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