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Old Mar 2, 2026 | 03:30 PM
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Bank 1 & bank 2 too rich


I just solved this issue 2 weeks ago and it came back. But the thing is now , is that I literally feel nothing wrong with my car . It’s driving great , there is zero noise , no vibrations . Cleaned my MAF sensor 2 weeks ago. I’m gonna check the air filters after this snow storm . Maybe there’s my issue . But I want to hear another opinion .
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I have the same issue 2012 GLK350 4Matic

I’ve run all scans, had this off and on for quite a while.
Ive scanned everything, found nothing. found an article that points to the MAF sensor as the most likely culprit.
is the a way to test this sensor?

I just solved this issue 2 weeks ago and it came back. But the thing is now , is that I literally feel nothing wrong with my car . It’s driving great , there is zero noise , no vibrations . Cleaned my MAF sensor 2 weeks ago. I’m gonna check the air filters after this snow storm . Maybe there’s my issue . But I want to hear another opinion .[/QUOTE]
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B1/B2 : Rich AF...

Both banks too rich... (bad for cats!)
can you read your fuel trims?

Have you cleared faults from your ECU after recent MAF service... do it.

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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Both banks too rich... (bad for cats!)
can you read your fuel trims?

Have you cleared faults from your ECU after recent MAF service... do it.


was diagnosing the car for being rich and this happens . Looks like my belt kinda burned the groves . This is a whole new problem
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Originally Posted by Gkbrans

was diagnosing the car for being rich and this happens . Looks like my belt kinda burned the groves . This is a whole new problem
Inspect ALL your accessories pulleys are operable without too much loose wabbling.

Ultimately at least replace belt kit: tensioner + idlers + serp. (+ accessories).
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Inspect ALL your accessories pulleys are operable without too much loose wabbling.

Ultimately at least replace belt kit: tensioner + idlers + serp. (+ accessories).
those pieces are replaceable ? I wasn’t aware . Would you happen to know how the job will be done?
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What is $1000 ?

Originally Posted by Gkbrans
those pieces are replaceable ? I wasn’t aware .
Would you happen to know how the job will be done?
Realise the belt controls your steering assist... you best need a Pro to make this system RELIABLE for the next 60k.Mi.

This job starts with a belt kit ~$150 + TBD. failed accessories.

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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Realise the belt controls your steering assist... you best need a Pro to make this system RELIABLE for the next 60k.Mi.

This job starts with a belt kit ~$150 + TBD. failed accessories.
it’s just replacing a belt and some pulleys , would I need to do something else other than replacing belt & pulleys? You telling me to take it to a shop?
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Both banks too rich... (bad for cats!)
can you read your fuel trims?

Have you cleared faults from your ECU after recent MAF service... do it.
also back to this . Before my belt gave out , I was scanning ECU for codes and now it’s just saying Bank 2 is rich and bank 1 is okay . I have cleared the code when I finished the service . When I look at my fuel trims what am I suppose to be on a lookout for . Say for example , my MAF sensor is going bad , what kind of data would I look for? Or say my O2 sensor was going bad , what data stream would diagnose that? Sorry I’m still new to diagnosing , I don’t know what data is for what.
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Both banks too rich... (bad for cats!)
can you read your fuel trims?

Have you cleared faults from your ECU after recent MAF service... do it.
Also this is kind of a stretch but I have heard rain and snow would be the cause of this . How accurate is that? I really don’t believe it.
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Originally Posted by Gkbrans
also back to this . Before my belt gave out , I was scanning ECU for codes and now it’s just saying Bank 2 is rich and bank 1 is okay . I have cleared the code when I finished the service . When I look at my fuel trims what am I suppose to be on a lookout for . Say for example , my MAF sensor is going bad , what kind of data would I look for? Or say my O2 sensor was going bad , what data stream would diagnose that? Sorry I’m still new to diagnosing , I don’t know what data is for what.
You right about Fuel trims! LTFT can help diagnose combustion of:
  1. low fuel pressure
  2. old Lambda upstream sensors
  3. Overgapped spark plugs
  4. dirty MAF sensor
  5. oily MAP sensor
Read LTFT 1+ 2 at warm idle.

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Originally Posted by Gkbrans
Also this is kind of a stretch but I have heard rain and snow would be the cause of this .
How accurate is that? I really don’t believe it.
That's not impossible unless you live in the Bahamas. Ppl give you handy tips to help you check this out.
Many ppl know that RAIN LEAKS can royally mess up MB. I bet salty snow can pack a treat too...

Pop the hood open,
use your scanner,
investigate reality...

Dealer are here to help with trained technician who can diagnose your issues often for a small fee.
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Originally Posted by Gkbrans
it’s just replacing a belt and some pulleys , would I need to do something else other than replacing belt & pulleys?
You telling me to take it to a shop?
You need this machine to be safe & reliable, right?

Someone needs to assess the accessories to make sure only the tensioner caused the slippery belt failure.

The service of serpentine accessories is really not time consuming nor too expensive if nothing else

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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
You right about Fuel trims! LTFT can help diagnose combustion of:
  1. low fuel pressure
  2. old Lambda upstream sensors
  3. Overgapped spark plugs
  4. dirty MAF sensor
  5. oily MAP sensor
Read LTFT 1+ 2 at warm idle.
I have a launch Creader elite V2.0 I kind of don’t know how to look for specific data . Like MAF OR MAP or low fuel pressure data . Overgapped spark plugs can cause my engine to run rich?? I figured that’ll be a misfire ? Sorry for asking a lot of questions I really want to get to the bottom of my engine running rich
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I’ve run all scans, had this off and on for quite a while.
Ive scanned everything, found nothing. found an article that points to the MAF sensor as the most likely culprit.
is the a way to test this sensor?

I just solved this issue 2 weeks ago and it came back. But the thing is now , is that I literally feel nothing wrong with my car . It’s driving great , there is zero noise , no vibrations . Cleaned my MAF sensor 2 weeks ago. I’m gonna check the air filters after this snow storm . Maybe there’s my issue . But I want to hear another opinion .
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Sorry for this being late!
there is ways to test the sensor depending on what scanner device you have . Have you solved your issue ?
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
That's not impossible unless you live in the Bahamas. Ppl give you handy tips to help you check this out.
Many ppl know that RAIN LEAKS can royally mess up MB. I bet salty snow can pack a treat too...

Pop the hood open,
use your scanner,
investigate reality...

Dealer are here to help with trained technician who can diagnose your issues often for a small fee.
Something that confuses me is that it’s running perfect and idling like normal . Maybe when i enter the freeway and try to accelerate there’s a bit of a small jump , but it’s really not that noticeable unless you focus on it . But that rarely occurs .
I don’t want to just ignore this and wait till it progresses lol it just confuses me a bit .
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Originally Posted by Gkbrans
Something that confuses me is that it’s running perfect and idling like normal . Maybe when i enter the freeway and try to accelerate there’s a bit of a small jump, but it’s really not that noticeable unless you focus on it .
But that rarely occurs .
I don’t want to just ignore this and wait till it progresses lol it just confuses me a bit.
If you don't receive any faults and your car is driving well with current maintenance - It's up to you or your specialist to decide what to focus on.
  • Engine (..., pigtails, good oil, ...)
  • Transmission ATF
  • Suspensions (SB links, arms, BJ, ...)
  • Tires + Brakes services
  • Leaks: oil, coolant...
  • Batteries (trickle charge,...)

Your MB likes any new genuine parts & care you give it.

"Bk1+2 too rich" brings ignition up to the head of the list.

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